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Re: Finals 2024 - G2 - Mavs @ Celtics (Sunday., 8:00PMEST) 

Post#141 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:15 pm

tleikheen wrote:Every commentator you hear and the eye test shows Luka with the ball and slowing down the action which fits his style and he is the only one benefiting while his team mates are taking the dagger for missing their shots , but the ball isn't moving and they're not finding rythem. Mavs are avging 15 assists a game ,only.

I don't blame Luka's team mates like the rest of you . I don't see any open court action or transition basketball and this is what Kyrie thrives in . Kyrie is playing ISO ball on a setup defense waiting for him .


Don't acting like a baby just because your guys Green and Exum are trash... Luka played great yesterday even with those TOs and those missed FTs.
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Post#142 » by Bob8 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:17 pm

tleikheen wrote:Every commentator you hear and the eye test shows Luka with the ball and slowing down the action which fits his style and he is the only one benefiting while his team mates are taking the dagger for missing their shots , but the ball isn't moving and they're not finding rythem. Mavs are avging 15 assists a game ,only.

I don't blame Luka's team mates like the rest of you . I don't see any open court action or transition basketball and this is what Kyrie thrives in . Kyrie is playing ISO ball on a setup defense waiting for him .


Did you ever play basketball? You can't just say I will play open court action and transition basketball, it's about your opponents too. This is not RS basketball anymore, opponents are prepared for every game, for every matchup, knowing exactly how team and individual players play and having an exact plan how to play them in D and offensive side.

Luka even tried to play few transitions passes, but everyone was intercepted. Josh tried to play fast, Kleber, Exum, Kyrie with pass to PJ. Every action ended with TO or block.

More importantly we're in the Finals against all odds. We must have been doing something right.
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Post#143 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:20 pm

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tleikheen wrote:Every commentator you hear and the eye test shows Luka with the ball and slowing down the action which fits his style and he is the only one benefiting while his team mates are taking the dagger for missing their shots , but the ball isn't moving and they're not finding rythem. Mavs are avging 15 assists a game ,only.

I don't blame Luka's team mates like the rest of you . I don't see any open court action or transition basketball and this is what Kyrie thrives in . Kyrie is playing ISO ball on a setup defense waiting for him .


Did you ever play basketball? You can't just say I will play open court action and transition basketball, it's about your opponents too. This is not RS basketball anymore, opponents are prepared for every game, for every matchup, knowing exactly how team and individual players play and having a exact plan how to play them in D and offensive side.


We don't :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#144 » by joesha1698 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:27 pm

Mavs are in the Finals playing the whole season exactly the same. Kyrie was hitting exactly the same and more difficult shots in Wolves series.

Celtics are not letting Mavs pushing pace, because they're very good in returning and defending in transition. Pace overall falls significantly in playoffs. Everyone is playing half court offense.

Kyrie is not shooter like Steph, he doesn't run around screens and shoot instantly, he likes ball in his hands and creates his shot alone with his superior handles.

Anyway, no team can totally change style of play in Finals, they are what they are. Especially not Mavs, who have only 2 players capable of creating something, Kyrie mostly for himself. And you can't start using plays that you never used before overnight.

Kyrie is getting solid looks he just missed everything and that's the good news, meaning he can easily start hitting those shots, game 3 more or less the last chance.


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You can't compare the Wolves to the Celtics. The amount of space/ pace that Luka and Kyrie had versus the Wolves was totally different. The Celtics are a way more effective defensive team and their better coached. Minny couldn't guard the pick and roll and their defensive intensity was like a regular season team tbh.

Go watch Kyrie highlights from game 1 vs Minny and with a straight face tell me he has the same amount of space or pace to operate in as in this Boston series: Watch the 0:45 minute mark. Kyrie comes off a Lively screen and shoots a jumpshot. He hasn't done that once in this Boston series.

Kyrie is talented. Talented players can adjust their game. Like he's done all through these playoffs. When they watch the tape- they should use game 1 versus Minny as a blueprint but Kyrie has to depend on his jumpshot to break down Boston's defense.

You say no team can change its style of play in the finals but I'm not asking the Mavs to change their style of play. I'm asking the Mavs to help Kyrie to change his style of play in this series. K
yrie has wore several hats in these playoffs so far. We need Kyrie to move without the ball/ looking for quick jump shots/ push the ball up court - this is what will get him going and this is what will take pressure off Luka and the rest of the team.

If we keep doing what we're doing, it's going to be a sweep. The main thing needs to change is how we're using Kyrie in this series. We're not putting him in the best position to utilize his skills. This Boston team are not the wolves. They are more like OKC on defense but better.
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Post#145 » by Bob8 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:35 pm

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Mavs are in the Finals playing the whole season exactly the same. Kyrie was hitting exactly the same and more difficult shots in Wolves series.

Celtics are not letting Mavs pushing pace, because they're very good in returning and defending in transition. Pace overall falls significantly in playoffs. Everyone is playing half court offense.

Kyrie is not shooter like Steph, he doesn't run around screens and shoot instantly, he likes ball in his hands and creates his shot alone with his superior handles.

Anyway, no team can totally change style of play in Finals, they are what they are. Especially not Mavs, who have only 2 players capable of creating something, Kyrie mostly for himself. And you can't start using plays that you never used before overnight.

Kyrie is getting solid looks he just missed everything and that's the good news, meaning he can easily start hitting those shots, game 3 more or less the last chance.


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You can't compare the Wolves to the Celtics. The amount of space/ pace that Luka and Kyrie had versus the Wolves was totally different. The Celtics are a way more effective defensive team and their better coached. Minny couldn't guard the pick and roll and their defensive intensity was like a regular season team tbh.

Go watch Kyrie highlights from game 1 vs Minny and with a straight face tell me he has the same amount of space or pace to operate in as in this Boston series: Watch the 0:45 minute mark. Kyrie comes off a Lively screen and shoots a jumpshot. He hasn't done that once in this Boston series.

Kyrie is talented. Talented players can adjust their game. Like he's done all through these playoffs. When they watch the tape- they should use game 1 versus Minny as a blueprint but Kyrie has to depend on his jumpshot to break down Boston's defense.

You say no team can change its style of play in the finals but I'm not asking the Mavs to change their style of play. I'm asking the Mavs to help Kyrie to change his style of play in this series. K
yrie has wore several hats in these playoffs so far. We need Kyrie to move without the ball/ looking for quick jump shots/ push the ball up court - this is what will get him going and this is what will take pressure off Luka and the rest of the team.

If we keep doing what we're doing, it's going to be a sweep. The main thing needs to change is how we're using Kyrie in this series. We're not putting him in the best position to utilize his skills. This Boston team are not the wolves. They are more like OKC on defense but better.


What you mean to move without the ball? You need multiple screens to be executed perfectly for someone to be able to shoot freely. Those set actions are rehearsed from the beginning of the season to be executed well. Mavs have 0 set plays and you want they start something in game 3 of the Finals? Basketball doesn't work like that. The most likely scenario in that case is referees whistling moving screen.
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Post#146 » by joesha1698 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:55 pm


What you mean to move without the ball? You need multiple screens to be executed perfectly for someone to be able to shoot freely. Those set actions are rehearsed from the beginning of the season to be executed well. Mavs have 0 set plays and you want they start something in game 3 of the Finals? Basketball doesn't work like that. The most likely scenario in that case is referees whistling moving screen.

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Watch these highlights of Kyrie in game 2 vs Boston:

Everything is one on one versus Boston's defense and their switching everything. They are also shading him towards the help in the lane that makes the court feel very congested. There is no bad switches like versus Minny where Kyrie can manipulate space. This is the reason Luka is taking hard turnarounds to get his shot off. Kyrie is basically taking what the defense gives him - what the pundits want is Kyrie to play like he's 25 and drive by 4 guys and do the impossible. He's 32 and must pick his spots. He can't play at that level for 40 minutes. It's not realistic vs a smart defensive team.


What I mean by move without the ball is run plays for Kyrie that you were running for THJ. These are basic basketball plays and doesnt require a lot of scheming. Curls on the baseline (like he did in Minny for one play), Pin downs that we usually run for THJ, back screen Kyrie man when Luka has the ball and let Kyrie slip under for the shot. Stuff like that. Kyrie should not be standing still when he catches the ball versus this team. He has to be the finisher. Jason Kidd is a smart guy and needs to figure it out. If people are saying Kyrie is the issue - my question would be, what adjustments have been made?

With that being said, can Kyrie play harder? Yes. However, sometime playing harder is not smarter. Kyrie played harder vs the Wolves b/c he knew he could break down their defense bc their bigs couldnt cover the pick and roll. However, versus OKC Kyrie really had to pick his spots in the half court versus those long defenders. The same thing is happening versus the Celtics. People want Kyrie to play harder but its not realistic versus this defense. It's just going to lead to more inefficient play. The only thing left to do is play smarter, imo. Starting with how your freeing Kyrie up, allowing him to push the ball in the full court, and switching on defense on the other end.

Note: People forget when Michael Jordan got into his early 30s -he had transitioned into a jump shooter. To save energy because he couldnt just drive to the basket like that every play. Kyrie Irving has to do the same. Pretty much everyone on the Celtics except Horford is under 30. Kyrie can use his dribbling ability and shot making around the basket - but it must be done so selectively - but the majority of his points against the better defensive team must come by getting to spots and rising up. Ironically, that how Jason Terry killed teams for years. As you age, the jumpshot will open up the other areas of your game when the defense starts to over compensate. Ive been saying this all season in my posts. I said the Mavs offense must find ways to use Kyrie off screens for quick hitters where he has to work less. Plus, if they do this, it opens up another wrinkle to the Mavs offense because the defense has to react to that man movement and this could potentially be manipulated to open up other opportunities.
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Post#147 » by BliscoSantos » Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:25 pm

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BliscoSantos wrote:Kyrie and others need to Play better,a lot better ...

In the offseason THJ,Maxi and Green have to go...they make too much and give too little


How exactly does he need to play better? Aside from his shots or layups falling? This is not directed at you Bilsco - but just using this post to make a point. I've been reading all these posts and even some from sport writers and none of them are mentioning the obvious reason Kyrie is struggling so much. The way Dallas is using him. Kyrie is 6-7 years older since he been to his last finals. He's also 6-7 years older than Luka.

This style of play - 1on1 and using the heavy pick and roll is all designed for Luka's skill sets and even Luka is taking really tough shots and turning the ball over like crazy just to be effective. An older Kyrie with less height is facing the same type of defense and is expected to give you 30+ points easily.

Our whole offense is predicated on pick and roll and Luka and Kyrie going 1on1. Therefore, even our role players for the most part play off those guys. This is a result of having a very simplistic system of playing that does not encourage ball movement or player movement which is very much needed against elite teams (which you will always face) in the finals.

Instead of everyone saying they need more from Kyrie - can someone tell me how we're going to actually help Kyrie play to his strengths in the congested half court? If people could take Luka's almond joys out of their mouth for 1 second they would realize that helping Kyrie is going to make the Mavs more likely to win. Kidd should watch some tape of Curry versus the Celtics in the finals. It's simple.

How do you beat length/scheming and really tough one on one defense? You simply move without the ball - get to your spots and take quick shots. Kyrie is talented enough to trust his jumper in these series and get that shot before the defense can really lock in. Stop treating him like Luka. He's not 25 and he's not 6'7. Another thing Kidd has to do is let Kyrie bring the ball up and push the pace and see if he can get the others some quick looks or if he can get himself some opportunities to get to the cup b4 Boston defense reacts.

This should be Dallas thinking going forward:


1. Kyrie should push the ball every time up the court - any early opportunities for himself or teammates? No? Kick it back to Luka who should be trailing the play.

2. In the half court - Kyrie should be constantly moving looking for cuts to the hoop or empty spaces on the court where he can immediately rise up and knock down a jump shot. He should also be running off screens or double screens when its his time to score.

3.The Mavs should continue to switch everything on defense.


The Celtics are playing great D ...and yes,Luka can get his shots easier(because of height,strength) but Kyrie has been missing wide open shots(especialy the 3 Point ones)....watch the game again and see how many wide open shots did he make
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Post#148 » by joesha1698 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:39 pm

We're seeing more and more in the NBA that styles make fights. The GS warriors beat the Celtics in the finals because their movement / shooting style neutralized the Celtics defense. Dallas pick and roll style expose the Minnesota poor pick and roll defense and gave Kyrie and Luka the space they needed to cook.

The style that beats Boston is one that neutralizes their length/defense by using pace, man movement, and shooting off movement negating their ability to hone in on you. Dallas style of play and personnel is playing right into Boston's hands. This is why its been so easy thus far. This is why Luka is working so hard and Kyrie's game has been tamed thus far.

They will switch the pick and roll every play because they have no faith in gafford/lively/or whoever outside of Luka and Kyrie beating them one on one. They are not giving Luka and Kyrie any space to manipulate the defense for a lob or kick out for 3. They have basically turned them into one on one scorers in a crowded lane area (hence the turnovers) - with help defenders in arms lengths bc they have little faith in our guys knocking down shots. (who can blame them how inconsistent we are)

All in all, we're playing into their hands and its not pretty. We either have the guts to do something totally different on offense or we'll lose like Minny. We may steal one game but thats it.
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Post#149 » by HMFFL » Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:48 pm

Boston has been playing exceptional defense and their ball movement has been exceptional too.

Kyrie has been defended well. If you're blaming him for his lack of offense you may need to change how you watch the game. You can only do so much when the defense is locking you down.
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Post#150 » by joesha1698 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:56 pm

The Celtics are playing great D ...and yes,Luka can get his shots easier(because of height,strength) but Kyrie has been missing wide open shots(especialy the 3 Point ones)....watch the game again and see how many wide open shots did he make[/quote]


Your gonna miss shots. There was a time earlier in the playoffs were Luka (in the clipper series) was missing a lot of shots.Kyrie hasn't taken a lot of wide open shots - except for 3s. Most of his shots have been contested jumpers or layups at the basket.

We lost game 1 because the team didnt show up to play defense. Simple as that.

We lost game 2 because our coaches haven't figured out how to play Kyrie vs this defense. I think the issue is the Mavs coaches treat Kyrie like an after-thought and just expect him to be able to score vs any type of defense in the half court.

Ive been saying all season, I have no problem with this style of play. However, we have to allow other guys (especially Kyrie) to have the freedom to play to his strengths or your going to significantly handicap him and we're not gonna win with just playing to Luka's strengths alone.

We're losing because this offense doesn't work against intelligent teams that defend at a high level. We're putting all the pressure on two guys while making Kyrie play with a hand tied behind his back by not allowing him to push the pace and to focus on jump shooting vs this team. There is very little space to manipulate and we have made no adjustments for that.
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Post#151 » by joesha1698 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:09 pm

HMFFL wrote:Boston has been playing exceptional defense and their ball movement has been exceptional too.

Kyrie has been defended well. If you're blaming him for his lack of offense you may need to change how you watch the game. You can only do so much when the defense is locking you down.



I wouldn't say their locking him down. They are just defending him and Luka well. The only difference is against this defense, being 6'7 is helping Luka and he still is working really hard. This slow pace / lack of space doesn't help Kyrie at 6'2-6'3. So fans and media pundits (some) who have agendas are expecting Kyrie to play just as well as Luka versus this defense despite the Mavs not playing to his strengths vs this team. He's shorter and 7 years older. Against tough/long/smart defensive teams - its unrealistic to expect him to destroy them -especially when Boston is in arms lengths on every drive because they have zero respect for the guys around Kyrie and Luka.

Our style of play is making this easy for the Celtics similar to how Minny's bigs struggle with the pick and roll gave Kyrie/Luka so much space to destroy them. We have to find a way to get Kyrie separation. The only thing I can think of is that he has to move off the ball and has to resist the temptation to attack this team off the dribble. If this was 25 year old Kyrie - that's different. I'm interested in what adjustment J. Kidd will make. Let's hope his only adjustment isn't calling Kyrie 1b and saying he needs to play better.
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Post#152 » by Bob8 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:11 pm

HMFFL wrote:Boston has been playing exceptional defense and their ball movement has been exceptional too.

Kyrie has been defended well. If you're blaming him for his lack of offense you may need to change how you watch the game. You can only do so much when the defense is locking you down.


Maybe you should watch better. Kyrie had 51% of his shots open or wide open, and he has made only 26% of those shots. (He had similar % of open or wide open shots against Minnesota, but has made 50+ % of those shots. A very big difference.) Interesting enough, he had 49% tight shots and he has made 44.4% of those shots. Meaning he has missed a lot of open shots and was better, when his defender was 2-4 feet. 7/8 of his 3s were open or wide open. That doesn't bode well with narrative that he's struggling because great D on him.

He's immensely struggling with catc&shoot and pull ups and has solid % only with shots closer than 10 ft. He is evidently missing shooting touch from outside the paint. Another interesting stats, he's struggling with scoring, if he has the ball less than 2 second or more than 6 seconds. He's the best, when he has the ball between 2-6 seconds. His classic ISO action.

I'm pretty confident he will have much better game in Dallas.
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Post#153 » by tleikheen » Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:29 pm

Don't acting like a baby just because your guys Green and Exum are trash... Luka played great yesterday even with those TOs and those missed FTs.


You're one of those guys that always gets butthurt and gets personal to other posters as a substitute for your lack of basketball input ,Try to remember this a Mavs basketball forum discussing not a name calling place.
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Post#154 » by joesha1698 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:36 pm

Watch this video:

It basically explains how we're getting out classed on both sides of the ball. We need to make major changes to still have a chance to win this series. We should give Luka and Kyrie credit for getting us this far. We should also give the rest of our guys credit for getting this far.
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Post#155 » by tleikheen » Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:42 pm

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Boston has been playing exceptional defense and their ball movement has been exceptional too.

Kyrie has been defended well. If you're blaming him for his lack of offense you may need to change how you watch the game. You can only do so much when the defense is locking you down.


When the ball is walked upcourt Boston is able to set up their halfcourt defense and this is what Kyrie has to go against as the secondary ball handler . If he was the guy bringing the ball up and being 1st option ,his numbers would probably be looking good like Luka's.
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Post#156 » by HMFFL » Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:22 am

Bob8 wrote:
HMFFL wrote:Boston has been playing exceptional defense and their ball movement has been exceptional too.

Kyrie has been defended well. If you're blaming him for his lack of offense you may need to change how you watch the game. You can only do so much when the defense is locking you down.


Maybe you should watch better. Kyrie had 51% of his shots open or wide open, and he has made only 26% of those shots. (He had similar % of open or wide open shots against Minnesota, but has made 50+ % of those shots. A very big difference.) Interesting enough, he had 49% tight shots and he has made 44.4% of those shots. Meaning he has missed a lot of open shots and was better, when his defender was 2-4 feet. 7/8 of his 3s were open or wide open. That doesn't bode well with narrative that he's struggling because great D on him.

He's immensely struggling with catc&shoot and pull ups and has solid % only with shots closer than 10 ft. He is evidently missing shooting touch from outside the paint. Another interesting stats, he's struggling with scoring, if he has the ball less than 2 second or more than 6 seconds. He's the best, when he has the ball between 2-6 seconds. His classic ISO action.

I'm pretty confident he will have much better game in Dallas.


I have been watching closely enough to see the impact Bostons defense has made in the series.
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Post#157 » by HMFFL » Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:32 am

Game Two
Fast Break Points:
Dallas 7
Boston 15

Points In The Paint:
Dallas 54
Boston 46

3-Point Shooting:
Dallas 6-28 (23%) Luka made 4.
Boston 10-39 (26%)

Game One:
Fast Break Points:
Dallas 6
Boston 10

Points In The Paint:
Dallas 46
Boston 38

3-Point Shooting:
Dallas 7-27 (26%) Luka made 4.
Boston 16-42 (38%)
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Post#158 » by Bob8 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:34 am

HMFFL wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
HMFFL wrote:Boston has been playing exceptional defense and their ball movement has been exceptional too.

Kyrie has been defended well. If you're blaming him for his lack of offense you may need to change how you watch the game. You can only do so much when the defense is locking you down.


Maybe you should watch better. Kyrie had 51% of his shots open or wide open, and he has made only 26% of those shots. (He had similar % of open or wide open shots against Minnesota, but has made 50+ % of those shots. A very big difference.) Interesting enough, he had 49% tight shots and he has made 44.4% of those shots. Meaning he has missed a lot of open shots and was better, when his defender was 2-4 feet. 7/8 of his 3s were open or wide open. That doesn't bode well with narrative that he's struggling because great D on him.

He's immensely struggling with catc&shoot and pull ups and has solid % only with shots closer than 10 ft. He is evidently missing shooting touch from outside the paint. Another interesting stats, he's struggling with scoring, if he has the ball less than 2 second or more than 6 seconds. He's the best, when he has the ball between 2-6 seconds. His classic ISO action.

I'm pretty confident he will have much better game in Dallas.


I have been watching closely enough to see the impact Bostons defense has made in the series.


Apparently not close enough, he was missing shots he normally makes.
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Bob8 wrote:
Maybe you should watch better. Kyrie had 51% of his shots open or wide open, and he has made only 26% of those shots. (He had similar % of open or wide open shots against Minnesota, but has made 50+ % of those shots. A very big difference.) Interesting enough, he had 49% tight shots and he has made 44.4% of those shots. Meaning he has missed a lot of open shots and was better, when his defender was 2-4 feet. 7/8 of his 3s were open or wide open. That doesn't bode well with narrative that he's struggling because great D on him.

He's immensely struggling with catc&shoot and pull ups and has solid % only with shots closer than 10 ft. He is evidently missing shooting touch from outside the paint. Another interesting stats, he's struggling with scoring, if he has the ball less than 2 second or more than 6 seconds. He's the best, when he has the ball between 2-6 seconds. His classic ISO action.

I'm pretty confident he will have much better game in Dallas.


I have been watching closely enough to see the impact Bostons defense has made in the series.


Apparently not close enough, he was missing shots he normally makes.


The entire team is except for Luka. Wakeup Bob!
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Post#160 » by Bob8 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:39 am

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HMFFL wrote:
I have been watching closely enough to see the impact Bostons defense has made in the series.


Apparently not close enough, he was missing shots he normally makes.


The entire team is except for Luka. Wakeup Bob!


Yes, but expectations are a little higher for him than for role players. And he's a little more capable of making those shots than role players. I'm guessing that not making a single 3 in back2back games is a big rarity for him.

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