Bulls /Mavs...Lavine

[Astaluego]

BULLS
In:Maxi/Green/THJ/3 SRP
Out:Lavine

They split Lavine into smaller, tradable contracts + some small assets

MAVS
In:Lavine
Out:Maxi/THJ/Green/3 SRP

Mavs showing difficulty scoring outside of Luka, gets another scoring star (only achievable due to high salary)


Thoughts?
Would it be necessary to send the FRP instead of the SRP?

[Mavrelous]

You'd have to include Powell to not lock the Mavs into 1st Apron, assuming you do, why would the Bulls do this? Lavine is overpaid, but there's not much salary saving here...

[ChettheJet]

I think the Bulls require the 1st. Then they need to have these redirect trades set up ready to go Or no deal

Kleber is valued by DAL but he's 33, due 2 years at $11m, has never averaged more than 9.1PPG or more than 5,9 RPG. The Bulls need a starting PF and he doesn't seem like it. I don't want him taking minutes for Julian Phillips

Green is not much different. He's run dry on potential, he's never scored (sound familiar) more than 9.1PPG. He's looking at being the backup to White/Dosunmu, and I think for what he makes the Bulls can do better.

THJ as an expiring is cool, he makes way too much to backup DeRozan or I don't want him taking minutes from Patrick Williams. Big risk of him firing up shots to pad his stats as he looks for his last above the minimum NBA contract.

[Astaluego]

I think the Bulls require the 1st. Then they need to have these redirect trades set up ready to go Or no deal

Kleber is valued by DAL but he's 33, due 2 years at $11m, has never averaged more than 9.1PPG or more than 5,9 RPG. The Bulls need a starting PF and he doesn't seem like it. I don't want him taking minutes for Julian Phillips

Green is not much different. He's run dry on potential, he's never scored (sound familiar) more than 9.1PPG. He's looking at being the backup to White/Dosunmu, and I think for what he makes the Bulls can do better.

THJ as an expiring is cool, he makes way too much to backup DeRozan or I don't want him taking minutes from Patrick Williams. Big risk of him firing up shots to pad his stats as he looks for his last above the minimum NBA contract.

He's right, I would have to include FRP 25... I think he could redirect Green to a team under construction,
I think the Hornets would look good and they don't usually attract many quality free agents or maybe the Raptors, I think they would like it. .
Would a contender with space like the 76ers take Maxi? Maybe to the Clippers for Tucker's expiration?

[Astaluego]

You'd have to include Powell to not lock the Mavs into 1st Apron, assuming you do, why would the Bulls do this? Lavine is overpaid, but there's not much salary saving here...

You're right... I guess the Mavs would have to send FRP 25... the idea was to transform Lavine into a smaller contract that was easier to move

[Texas Chuck]

You'd have to include Powell to not lock the Mavs into 1st Apron, assuming you do, why would the Bulls do this? Lavine is overpaid, but there's not much salary saving here...

Not this year, but quite a bit over the life of the contract. But I think Dallas pays someone to take Powell, maybe pays someone to take THJ. Then maybe there is a team that would give an expiring for Green(or Maxi?). Then Chicago saves even more.

Now is Chicago prepared to just punt on him? I think so, but maybe not. Then it comes down to who the bidders are and what they will give.

I have only two other teams I can get to make sense for him -- Lakers obviously and their bid will look a lot like Dallas'. Or Charlotte, who can certainly offer the most financial relief.

I would have the odds as Charlotte first, followed by LA, with Dallas a distant 3rd and that mainly because of past interest.

But I don't see a robust market at all.

[Mavrelous]

You'd have to include Powell to not lock the Mavs into 1st Apron, assuming you do, why would the Bulls do this? Lavine is overpaid, but there's not much salary saving here...

Not this year, but quite a bit over the life of the contract. But I think Dallas pays someone to take Powell, maybe pays someone to take THJ. Then maybe there is a team that would give an expiring for Green(or Maxi?). Then Chicago saves even more.

Now is Chicago prepared to just punt on him? I think so, but maybe not. Then it comes down to who the bidders are and what they will give.

I have only two other teams I can get to make sense for him -- Lakers obviously and their bid will look a lot like Dallas'. Or Charlotte, who can certainly offer the most financial relief.

I would have the odds as Charlotte first, followed by LA, with Dallas a distant 3rd and that mainly because of past interest.

But I don't see a robust market at all.

It's a very limited market, but if I'm CHI then I'm keeping him instead of this fluff...

You'd have to include Powell to not lock the Mavs into 1st Apron, assuming you do, why would the Bulls do this? Lavine is overpaid, but there's not much salary saving here...

You're right... I guess the Mavs would have to send FRP 25... the idea was to transform Lavine into a smaller contract that was easier to move

Here's something that may work

BULLS
In:Maxi/Green/Mavs 25 1st/MIA 28 2nd/BOS 25 2nd
Out:Lavine/POR 1st

Reduce salary, get a better 1st than POR 1st

MAVS
In:Lavine
Out:Maxi/THJ/Green/Powell/2 SRP/25 1st


TOR
In: THJ/Powell/POR 1st
Out: Fake 2nd

Bulls take guaranteed 1st and 2 2nds return POR 1st
Mavs sign DJJ for TPMLE 1+1 in a wink wink deal, and sign backup center with the min

Kyrie/Hardy
Lavine/Exum/Lawson
Luka/DJJ/vet min wing (KBD?)
PJ/OMax/Morris
Gafford/Lively/vet min

It's a thin rotation, but high offensive potential...

[Astaluego]

You'd have to include Powell to not lock the Mavs into 1st Apron, assuming you do, why would the Bulls do this? Lavine is overpaid, but there's not much salary saving here...

Not this year, but quite a bit over the life of the contract. But I think Dallas pays someone to take Powell, maybe pays someone to take THJ. Then maybe there is a team that would give an expiring for Green(or Maxi?). Then Chicago saves even more.

Now is Chicago prepared to just punt on him? I think so, but maybe not. Then it comes down to who the bidders are and what they will give.

I have only two other teams I can get to make sense for him -- Lakers obviously and their bid will look a lot like Dallas'. Or Charlotte, who can certainly offer the most financial relief.

I would have the odds as Charlotte first, followed by LA, with Dallas a distant 3rd and that mainly because of past interest.

But I don't see a robust market at all.

It's a very limited market, but if I'm CHI then I'm keeping him instead of this fluff...

You'd have to include Powell to not lock the Mavs into 1st Apron, assuming you do, why would the Bulls do this? Lavine is overpaid, but there's not much salary saving here...

You're right... I guess the Mavs would have to send FRP 25... the idea was to transform Lavine into a smaller contract that was easier to move

Here's something that may work

BULLS
In:Maxi/Green/Mavs 25 1st/MIA 28 2nd/BOS 25 2nd
Out:Lavine/POR 1st

Reduce salary, get a better 1st than POR 1st

MAVS
In:Lavine
Out:Maxi/THJ/Green/Powell/2 SRP/25 1st


TOR
In: THJ/Powell/POR 1st
Out: Fake 2nd

Bulls take guaranteed 1st and 2 2nds return POR 1st
Mavs sign DJJ for TPMLE 1+1 in a wink wink deal, and sign backup center with the min

Kyrie/Hardy
Lavine/Exum/Lawson
Luka/DJJ/vet min wing (KBD?)
PJ/OMax/Morris
Gafford/Lively/vet min

It's a thin rotation, but high offensive potential...

I like that rotation, in reality I don't think we are losing much, in relation to what we are seeing in the Playoffs...Tim does not play, Maxi and Green little and badly...to a certain point he asked me if there was any difference between playing Lawson in Green's place, the fact is that I have always liked Green and I think he would do better with less pressure

[jayjaysee]

I don’t see how Dallas builds a roster after this.

If DJJ is taking the taxMLE, I think this is worth paying more for I guess.

If not, then I don’t see how you can win with a forward rotation of PJ/“Luka”/Prosper/vet mins..

Chicago should be able to do better and Dallas isn’t in a position to allocate that money this season. Maybe next offseason if they still have enough matching salary.

[jbk1234]

I can't think of a worse destination for LaVine than Dallas. Assuming they need to add a third scoring option, he has to be able play some semblance of defense and he needs to be the type of player who's capable of deferring but is also capable of scoring if the other team is tilting too much.

[Astaluego]

I can't think of a worst destination for LaVine than Dallas. Assuming they need to add a third scoring option, he has to be able play some semblance of defense and he needs to be the type of player who's capable of deferring but is also capable of scoring if the other team is tilting too much.

KI is basically expiring next year, and Zach would be like insurance too...KI looks happy in Dallas, but who knows what plans he has...on the court, the Mavs played very well with 3 guards (SD/Brunson/Luka under Kidd in the previous Playoff run...and Lavine can play off the ball better than any of those...it would be 48 minutes of elite guard scoring...Lavine motivated with less offensive load, he is not a bad defender