You are the GM of the Grizzlies, what would you do this offseason?

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You are the GM of the Grizzlies, what would you do this offseason? 

Post#1 » by Astaluego » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:07 am

With the return of Ja and selection 9, what would you do this offseason
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Post#2 » by Mrakar » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:28 am

I would offer that pick, Z. Williams, Smart (or kennard and some of the young guys) and some combination of future 1st rounders for Mikal Bridges and go from there. Sign a big guy ofc or try to use Smart/Kennard to get a big body.
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Post#3 » by esvl » Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:58 pm

1. Trade for Claxton (Allen as a backup option)
2. Draft BPA at #9
3. Avoid Clingan
4. Keep Smart

Nothing controversial or complex
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Post#4 » by BarbaGrizz » Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:51 pm

Try to sign either Hartestein or Goga
Trade down and try to draft Kel´el Ware around #15
Package Luke + Ziaire for fake second
Keep Smart
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Post#5 » by Scoot McGroot » Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:56 pm

BarbaGrizz wrote:Try to sign either Hartestein or Goga
Trade down and try to draft Kel´el Ware around #15
Package Luke + Ziaire for fake second
Keep Smart


Why wouldn’t you just decline the option of Kennard? Feels like it might be tougher to package Kennard and Ziaire somewhere that has almost $21m in cap space/TPE than to just find somewhere to dump Ziaire?
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Post#6 » by BarbaGrizz » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:01 pm

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BarbaGrizz wrote:Try to sign either Hartestein or Goga
Trade down and try to draft Kel´el Ware around #15
Package Luke + Ziaire for fake second
Keep Smart


Why wouldn’t you just decline the option of Kennard? Feels like it might be tougher to package Kennard and Ziaire somewhere that has almost $21m in cap space/TPE than to just find somewhere to dump Ziaire?

Maybe a team needing shooting (DET? POR? CHA?) will value Kennard and accept taking Ziaire´s salary? But yeah, it´s a long shot.
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Post#7 » by esvl » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:10 pm

BarbaGrizz wrote:Try to sign either Hartestein or Goga
Trade down and try to draft Kel´el Ware around #15
Package Luke + Ziaire for fake second
Keep Smart


I wouldn’t give up on ZW. His only red flag is lack of strength. It might be gone with his maturity, in which case you can get Jalen Williams 2.0.
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Post#8 » by BarbaGrizz » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:14 pm

esvl wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:Try to sign either Hartestein or Goga
Trade down and try to draft Kel´el Ware around #15
Package Luke + Ziaire for fake second
Keep Smart


I wouldn’t give up on ZW. His only red flag is lack of strength. It might be gone with his maturity, in which case you can get Jalen Williams 2.0.

He´ll be 23yo starting next season and never showed any improvement. I think it´s time to take the loss and move on to the next experiment
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Post#9 » by esvl » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:42 pm

BarbaGrizz wrote:
esvl wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:Try to sign either Hartestein or Goga
Trade down and try to draft Kel´el Ware around #15
Package Luke + Ziaire for fake second
Keep Smart


I wouldn’t give up on ZW. His only red flag is lack of strength. It might be gone with his maturity, in which case you can get Jalen Williams 2.0.

He´ll be 23yo starting next season and never showed any improvement. I think it´s time to take the loss and move on to the next experiment


Man this is pure math: it costs us almost nothing to take a whatever % chance of ZW transforming into Jalen Williams (light). Any other team would be HAPPY to take that chance for us.
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Post#10 » by BarbaGrizz » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:45 pm

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I wouldn’t give up on ZW. His only red flag is lack of strength. It might be gone with his maturity, in which case you can get Jalen Williams 2.0.

He´ll be 23yo starting next season and never showed any improvement. I think it´s time to take the loss and move on to the next experiment


Man this is pure math: it costs us almost nothing to take a whatever % chance of ZW transforming into Jalen Williams (light). Any other team would be HAPPY to take that chance for us.

ZW will never be remotely close to JW, that´s non-sense. He´s not a scorer, a shooter, defender or playmaker. He´s in the NBA because he´s tall and (somewhat) young
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Post#11 » by hugepatsfan » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:08 pm

What do MEM fans think of Jake Laravia? The Celtics don't really have a natural PF on the roster behind Tatum. We can match salaries with Jaden Springer (1 year, expiring makes slightly more than Laravia).

Just from the outside looking in, it seems like he'd be outside of MEM's primary rotation. But seemed like he had some moments last year too. BOS is obviously a more complete team and it'd be a more specified role but maybe he could be a decent 9th man for us? We have #30 in this draft to add with Springer, and also a bunch of future 2nds. Any possibility a deal could be made?
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Post#12 » by Scoot McGroot » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:26 pm

BarbaGrizz wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:Try to sign either Hartestein or Goga
Trade down and try to draft Kel´el Ware around #15
Package Luke + Ziaire for fake second
Keep Smart


Why wouldn’t you just decline the option of Kennard? Feels like it might be tougher to package Kennard and Ziaire somewhere that has almost $21m in cap space/TPE than to just find somewhere to dump Ziaire?

Maybe a team needing shooting (DET? POR? CHA?) will value Kennard and accept taking Ziaire´s salary? But yeah, it´s a long shot.


Portland definitely has to send salary back to match. They’re close to the tax as is.

But the others, they’re likely to see that they’re one of only one or two teams that could take both players combined and ask for payment, no?
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Post#13 » by psman2 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:32 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:What do MEM fans think of Jake Laravia? The Celtics don't really have a natural PF on the roster behind Tatum. We can match salaries with Jaden Springer (1 year, expiring makes slightly more than Laravia).

Just from the outside looking in, it seems like he'd be outside of MEM's primary rotation. But seemed like he had some moments last year too. BOS is obviously a more complete team and it'd be a more specified role but maybe he could be a decent 9th man for us? We have #30 in this draft to add with Springer, and also a bunch of future 2nds. Any possibility a deal could be made?


Yes he is likely on the fringe of our rotation right now, ZWill and GG has leapfrogged him. But he seemed to have flipped a switch to close out the season and is likely worth keeping as our 9/10 man right now than cashing out for a few future bad 2nds. If we move Aldama or suffer an injury to JJJ he could be in for a big minute boast. I think Ziaire is the odd man out that we are going to look to move on from.
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Post#14 » by psman2 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:36 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:
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Why wouldn’t you just decline the option of Kennard? Feels like it might be tougher to package Kennard and Ziaire somewhere that has almost $21m in cap space/TPE than to just find somewhere to dump Ziaire?

Maybe a team needing shooting (DET? POR? CHA?) will value Kennard and accept taking Ziaire´s salary? But yeah, it´s a long shot.


Portland definitely has to send salary back to match. They’re close to the tax as is.

But the others, they’re likely to see that they’re one of only one or two teams that could take both players combined and ask for payment, no?


I am not sure why he is trying to bundle them to one team. I think Ziaire would be an interesting gamble for a few teams and not cost much to incentivize a team to take him if any. Kennard is likely just cut, with the option to bring him back on a longer and smaller deal if we figure out our frontcourt needs.
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Post#15 » by Scoot McGroot » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:37 pm

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BarbaGrizz wrote:Maybe a team needing shooting (DET? POR? CHA?) will value Kennard and accept taking Ziaire´s salary? But yeah, it´s a long shot.


Portland definitely has to send salary back to match. They’re close to the tax as is.

But the others, they’re likely to see that they’re one of only one or two teams that could take both players combined and ask for payment, no?


I am not sure why he is trying to bundle them to one team. I think Ziaire would be an interesting gamble for a few teams and not cost much to incentivize a team to take him if any. Kennard is likely just cut, the the option to bring him back on a longer and smaller deal if we figure out our frontcourt needs.


Totally agreed. I think you could probably find a team on July 7-10 willing to take on Ziaire if he can fit into an otherwise arranged trade, or would take him into their MLE or TPE or something, and at very minimal cost, if any.
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Post#16 » by gswhoops » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:55 pm

BarbaGrizz wrote:Try to sign either Hartestein or Goga
Trade down and try to draft Kel´el Ware around #15
Package Luke + Ziaire for fake second
Keep Smart

I like Goga a lot for the Grizz in the Steven Adams lite role.

Interestingly enough I feel like the Grizz and my W's are going to be looking at a lot of the same pieces at the 5 because we both have our best lineups with JJJ/Draymond at the 5 but don't want to run that 24/7 during the RS. So you're looking for a 20/25 mpg guy who is nominally a "starter" but not playing high-leverage minutes.
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Post#17 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:57 pm

1 - Decline Kennards PO
2 - Trade ZW to a cap space team for a Top-55 protected SRP + LaRavia to a cap space team for a Top-55 protected SRP
3 - Draft Dalton Knetch at 9 + Ajay Mitchell at 39 + stash guy at 57
4 - Use the full MLE on Goga Bitzade
5 - Try starting GG at SF - if this doesnt work slide JJJ to starting C, Goga to bench and GG to PF w/ VWJ + Dalton + Jon fighting for the SF spot.

G - Ja Morant / Marcus Smart / Ajay Mitchell
G - Desmond Bane / Vince Williams JR / Marcus Smart
F - GG Jackson / Dalton Knetch / Jon Konchar
F - Jaren Jackson JR / Santi Aldama / Brandon Clarke
C - Goga Bitzade / Jaren Jackson JR / Brandon Clarke
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Post#18 » by esvl » Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:03 pm

BarbaGrizz wrote:
esvl wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:He´ll be 23yo starting next season and never showed any improvement. I think it´s time to take the loss and move on to the next experiment


Man this is pure math: it costs us almost nothing to take a whatever % chance of ZW transforming into Jalen Williams (light). Any other team would be HAPPY to take that chance for us.

ZW will never be remotely close to JW, that´s non-sense. He´s not a scorer, a shooter, defender or playmaker. He´s in the NBA because he´s tall and (somewhat) young


If your verdict is accurate, then I am fully on board with your position. I am just not entirely sure it is.
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Post#19 » by esvl » Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:05 pm

At which point of time Goga has become a desired starting center for this Grizzlies team? What did I miss? What is *** going on here?
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Post#20 » by Colbinii » Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:09 pm

esvl wrote:At which point of time Goga has become a desired starting center for this Grizzlies team? What did I miss? What is *** going on here?


Huh?

He did well as a spot-starter for the Orlando Magic. No reason the Center rotation can't be Goga/Clarke/JJJ.

What exactly is your idea of a starting center for Orlando?

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