LaMelo Ball to Houston

[KembaWalker]

Just because someone has a different view on if Ball is worth building around doesn't mean they put little thought into it. People are allowed different opinions. And honestly with how mediocre or worse Charlotte has been since he was added, it feels like there is plenty of justification for that position, no?

This is such tacky, low quality bait that a mod should be above even posting

“The team has been bad since drafting Ball, you can’t complain about low value offers!!”

I’d be embarrassed if I made an offer like this to Raptors fans for Scottie Barnes because they suck with him as their guy.

51, 75, 36, 22

That's how many games LeMelo has played in his career.

Like it or not a top 5 pick (in any draft) and an above average positional replacement is a good offer. Availability is the most important ability.

Yes, these are the kinds of posts you get from guys who cannot even spell the players name in question. We are very used to it. Bravo

Feel free to point me toward all the trades like this happening with 22 year old all star. lol

[supertruck97]

Good grief dude. If you don't like the conversation, just click on another thread. Life is too short to be this up tight.

[KembaWalker]

Like it or not it’s a good offer, no I won’t try to justify it on any way! I’ll just hurl insults instead!

Literally this board lol

[supertruck97]

I literally defended why it was a decent offer. And you offered nothing back in response. Nothing refuting the discussion, or a counter-offer or anything remotely adding to the discussions. Just sarcasm and personal attacks.

LaMelo has played in 35% of games the last 2 years. As a rockets fan, I would not want him on my team at all because of that uncertainty. But, FVV and #3 is a decent jumping off point to consider. A roll of the dice on his long-term health.

For you to be insulted by the offer (not mine, BTW) and argue that it's for a "22 Yr old all-star", with no other context is disingenuous. I'd take a full year of FVV over 1/3 of a year of LaMelo 10 times out of 10.

[Creativetran]

Vleet to SA or Orl for cap space and a protected low value first.
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You got this wrong, Houston would have to send out a 1st for a team take on that crazy contract

[JustBuzzin]

Add Cam Whitmore and it's more realistic.

Melo is too talented even with the injury concerns to take this deal.

[jayjaysee]

FVV makes the most sense landing in LAL. They should pay 17th to combine some of their guys into FVV IMO.

I think Ball is worth more than 3rd. And think Houston would offer another first to get him.

Then it starts looking like like a deal Charlotte should do.

[KembaWalker]

I literally defended why it was a decent offer. And you offered nothing back in response. Nothing refuting the discussion, or a counter-offer or anything remotely adding to the discussions. Just sarcasm and personal attacks.

LaMelo has played in 35% of games the last 2 years. As a rockets fan, I would not want him on my team at all because of that uncertainty. But, FVV and #3 is a decent jumping off point to consider. A roll of the dice on his long-term health.

For you to be insulted by the offer (not mine, BTW) and argue that it's for a "22 Yr old all-star", with no other context is disingenuous. I'd take a full year of FVV over 1/3 of a year of LaMelo 10 times out of 10.

You’re “rolling the dice” by dumping a godawful negative value contract and a pick in the worst draft in 20 years. Charlotte is the one rolling the dice lol we have to sell the fanbase on why we traded our star player and fan favorite for Reed Sheppard

[supertruck97]

I literally defended why it was a decent offer. And you offered nothing back in response. Nothing refuting the discussion, or a counter-offer or anything remotely adding to the discussions. Just sarcasm and personal attacks.

LaMelo has played in 35% of games the last 2 years. As a rockets fan, I would not want him on my team at all because of that uncertainty. But, FVV and #3 is a decent jumping off point to consider. A roll of the dice on his long-term health.

For you to be insulted by the offer (not mine, BTW) and argue that it's for a "22 Yr old all-star", with no other context is disingenuous. I'd take a full year of FVV over 1/3 of a year of LaMelo 10 times out of 10.

You’re “rolling the dice” by dumping a godawful negative value contract and a pick in the worst draft in 20 years. Charlotte is the one rolling the dice lol we have to sell the fanbase on why we traded our star player and fan favorite for Reed Sheppard

Ah, I see that you are just misinformed.

FVV's contract is expiring. The final year is a club option. So, it's a big expiring contract... Hope that helps, friend.

[LightTheBeam]

Rockets out: FVV, #3, Eason
Rockets in: Melo

Charlotte out: Melo
Charlotte in: Cole Anthony, Eason, #3, Denver 2025 1st

Orlando out: Cole, Denver 2025 1st
Orlando In: FVV

Rockets take a risky upside play for Melo
Charlotte gets a bunch of assets and starts to build around Miller, Eason, Williams, 3, 6. Save a ton of money
Orlando gets FVV for nearly free. Great fit in Orlando.

[LofJ]

Just because someone has a different view on if Ball is worth building around doesn't mean they put little thought into it. People are allowed different opinions. And honestly with how mediocre or worse Charlotte has been since he was added, it feels like there is plenty of justification for that position, no?

This is such tacky, low quality bait that a mod should be above even posting

“The team has been bad since drafting Ball, you can’t complain about low value offers!!”

I’d be embarrassed if I made an offer like this to Raptors fans for Scottie Barnes because they suck with him as their guy.

51, 75, 36, 22

That's how many games LeMelo has played in his career.

Like it or not a top 5 pick (in any draft) and an above average positional replacement is a good offer. Availability is the most important ability.

I agree with this, it isn't a coincidence that the Hornets won 43 games the one season LaMelo was fully healthy. He's really, really good (when he actually plays).

If he had played 70+ games the last 2 seasons there wouldn't be any LaMelo trade threads on this board, but he hasn't so I'm not surprised.

[supertruck97]

Rockets out: FVV, #3, Eason
Rockets in: Melo

Charlotte out: Melo
Charlotte in: Cole Anthony, Eason, #3, Denver 2025 1st

Orlando out: Cole, Denver 2025 1st
Orlando In: FVV

Rockets take a risky upside play for Melo
Charlotte gets a bunch of assets and starts to build around Miller, Eason, Williams, 3, 6. Save a ton of money
Orlando gets FVV for nearly free. Great fit in Orlando.

If I'm the Rockets I would be doing my darndest to swap Eason out for a future protected first, but would probably grit my teeth and accept this. Would hate trading a gritty player who plays 82 games with a finesse player made of glass but the upside is there for the risk. Definitely a swing for the fences type of move.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Rockets out: FVV, #3, Eason
Rockets in: Melo

Charlotte out: Melo
Charlotte in: Cole Anthony, Eason, #3, Denver 2025 1st

Orlando out: Cole, Denver 2025 1st
Orlando In: FVV

Rockets take a risky upside play for Melo
Charlotte gets a bunch of assets and starts to build around Miller, Eason, Williams, 3, 6. Save a ton of money
Orlando gets FVV for nearly free. Great fit in Orlando.

Giving up Cole and a 1st in a deep draft doesn’t quantify as “nearly free” in any regard.

Cole still has value and FVV still makes 43M and will create a bit of a burden when having to resign Wagner/Suggs/Banchero

I don’t think Orlando touches this as currently proposed.

[jbk1234]

Rockets out: FVV, #3, Eason
Rockets in: Melo

Charlotte out: Melo
Charlotte in: Cole Anthony, Eason, #3, Denver 2025 1st

Orlando out: Cole, Denver 2025 1st
Orlando In: FVV

Rockets take a risky upside play for Melo
Charlotte gets a bunch of assets and starts to build around Miller, Eason, Williams, 3, 6. Save a ton of money
Orlando gets FVV for nearly free. Great fit in Orlando.

Giving up Cole and a 1st in a deep draft doesn’t quantify as “nearly free” in any regard.

Cole still has value and FVV still makes 43M and will create a bit of a burden when having to resign Wagner/Suggs/Banchero

I don’t think Orlando touches this as currently proposed.

I have no dog in this fight, but I'm not sure why Cole Anthony is viewed as an asset on his extension.

[HornetJail]

Just because someone has a different view on if Ball is worth building around doesn't mean they put little thought into it. People are allowed different opinions. And honestly with how mediocre or worse Charlotte has been since he was added, it feels like there is plenty of justification for that position, no?

This is such tacky, low quality bait that a mod should be above even posting

“The team has been bad since drafting Ball, you can’t complain about low value offers!!”

I’d be embarrassed if I made an offer like this to Raptors fans for Scottie Barnes because they suck with him as their guy.

I didn't say one word about you can't complain about low offers.

And when discussing if a team should build around a player, how successful they have nor have not been is highly relevant and not at all baiting.

I get you disagree. Cool. This is supposed to be a board of differing opinions. You seem to the guy here most unable to deal with different opinions though.

cool. the last time Melo made it through a season, we won 43 games, and that's without the players that are considered 2nd and 3rd most important pieces of our future. That's why nobody associated with Charlotte in any way, wants to see him leave.

[Texas Chuck]

This is such tacky, low quality bait that a mod should be above even posting

“The team has been bad since drafting Ball, you can’t complain about low value offers!!”

I’d be embarrassed if I made an offer like this to Raptors fans for Scottie Barnes because they suck with him as their guy.

I didn't say one word about you can't complain about low offers.

And when discussing if a team should build around a player, how successful they have nor have not been is highly relevant and not at all baiting.

I get you disagree. Cool. This is supposed to be a board of differing opinions. You seem to the guy here most unable to deal with different opinions though.

cool. the last time Melo made it through a season, we won 43 games, and that's without the players that are considered 2nd and 3rd most important pieces of our future. That's why nobody associated with Charlotte in any way, wants to see him leave.

that was 3 years ago. So again, seems relevant to the discussion as to should we build around this player. Lonzo was a good player too. But a big issue with both brothers is health. And I'm not sure 43 wins is the huge selling point you guys make it to be. I have that as still fairly pedestrian.

Now again, I have no issues with those who want to hope that he can get and stay healthy. And that the team can build around him. But there is pretty compelling evidence that shows a different strategy is not "without much thought".

[KembaWalker]

Alperen Sengun has a similarly blown out ankle, can’t build around that guy. Never had a winning season. I’ll offer the 6th pick and Grant Williams, go ahead and send over the paperwork

It’s totally fine, you can start the rebuild around Jalen Green with a stud like Ron Holland

[Texas Chuck]

Locking this so I don't have to issue warnings in a thread I've been part of the discussion of. In the future we can have vigorous debate but you have to bring substance. One poster has derailed this thread with none repeatedly.