2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[BoyzNTheHood]

I think the main skills here are size/ length, defensive instincts and the fact that he can really stroke it for an 18 year old prospect that I believe just got to the states? May be wrong there, but being able to hit those percentages and with many of those shots coming at NBA range, not just a toes on the line type of guy, could be the calling card. The guy kind of has a profile that is like a Cam Johnson, pre-injury Otto Porter, better shooting Kyle Anderson. A mix of those guys is his ceiling to me, he's just very young and we don't know if he will make it. But, in my opinion he has the shot taking and making down from distance. We all know that's a very valuable skill, and a decent one to bet on at 31, and I'd be open to it at 19, especially if you buy his defence being above average, he'd definitely have a fit on this roster.

More like injured Porter. His vertical and athleticism are at the bottom across the board. He plays below the rim. I don't think he fits the Raps profile at all. Someone like Mogbo would fit the Raps profile at 31.

I mean, Kyle Anderson, while maybe a tad lengthier has made a career on many of the same pros and cons as Kyshawn, but with less of a jumpshot, considerably less at same age. A guy like Danny Green can barely get up as a 3 and D guy at 6'6" and basically has zero off dribble game. Kyshawn just seems like the prototypical dude that everyone is looking at what he can't do and ignoring what he can do. His cons are playing below the rim and lack of burst, his pros are defence, near elite jumpshooting for a player his age, ability to handle and see the floor and process the game, and good size and length for a 3 man, just needs to get stronger, which he almost certainly will.

Kyle Anderson was a far superior prospect.

[Indeed]

More like injured Porter. His vertical and athleticism are at the bottom across the board. He plays below the rim. I don't think he fits the Raps profile at all. Someone like Mogbo would fit the Raps profile at 31.

I mean, Kyle Anderson, while maybe a tad lengthier has made a career on many of the same pros and cons as Kyshawn, but with less of a jumpshot, considerably less at same age. A guy like Danny Green can barely get up as a 3 and D guy at 6'6" and basically has zero off dribble game. Kyshawn just seems like the prototypical dude that everyone is looking at what he can't do and ignoring what he can do. His cons are playing below the rim and lack of burst, his pros are defence, near elite jumpshooting for a player his age, ability to handle and see the floor and process the game, and good size and length for a 3 man, just needs to get stronger, which he almost certainly will.

Kyle Anderson was a far superior prospect.

Banton would be the closer comparison, I believe.
Banton is a pretty good finisher, while George maybe better shooter (I mean, can't be worse than Banton).

[DreamTeam09]

More like injured Porter. His vertical and athleticism are at the bottom across the board. He plays below the rim. I don't think he fits the Raps profile at all. Someone like Mogbo would fit the Raps profile at 31.

I mean, Kyle Anderson, while maybe a tad lengthier has made a career on many of the same pros and cons as Kyshawn, but with less of a jumpshot, considerably less at same age. A guy like Danny Green can barely get up as a 3 and D guy at 6'6" and basically has zero off dribble game. Kyshawn just seems like the prototypical dude that everyone is looking at what he can't do and ignoring what he can do. His cons are playing below the rim and lack of burst, his pros are defence, near elite jumpshooting for a player his age, ability to handle and see the floor and process the game, and good size and length for a 3 man, just needs to get stronger, which he almost certainly will.

Kyle Anderson was a far superior prospect.

I don't see how you say that full stop. Anderson was the last pick in the 1st round, & his profile didn't scream 10yr pro

[PoundTown]

I mean, Kyle Anderson, while maybe a tad lengthier has made a career on many of the same pros and cons as Kyshawn, but with less of a jumpshot, considerably less at same age. A guy like Danny Green can barely get up as a 3 and D guy at 6'6" and basically has zero off dribble game. Kyshawn just seems like the prototypical dude that everyone is looking at what he can't do and ignoring what he can do. His cons are playing below the rim and lack of burst, his pros are defence, near elite jumpshooting for a player his age, ability to handle and see the floor and process the game, and good size and length for a 3 man, just needs to get stronger, which he almost certainly will.

Kyle Anderson was a far superior prospect.

I don't see how you say that full stop. Anderson was the last pick in the 1st round, & his profile didn't scream 10yr pro

He had alot of hype coming out of highschool as possibly a jumbo point guard, but then everyone realized that wasn't going to be the case once he played in college, because just like Kyshawn he can't break his man down off the dribble. I would say at the end of their first year in the pros, they are similar level prospects.

[C_Money]

Thats why George should go 2nd round. Best case scenario he’s a pretty good bench player. Worst case scenario is he’s a total scrub.

[Rapsfan07]

Thats why George should go 2nd round. Best case scenario he’s a pretty good bench player. Worst case scenario is he’s a total scrub.

Agreed. I would comfortably say that George in the first round is a waste of a pick.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I mean, Kyle Anderson, while maybe a tad lengthier has made a career on many of the same pros and cons as Kyshawn, but with less of a jumpshot, considerably less at same age. A guy like Danny Green can barely get up as a 3 and D guy at 6'6" and basically has zero off dribble game. Kyshawn just seems like the prototypical dude that everyone is looking at what he can't do and ignoring what he can do. His cons are playing below the rim and lack of burst, his pros are defence, near elite jumpshooting for a player his age, ability to handle and see the floor and process the game, and good size and length for a 3 man, just needs to get stronger, which he almost certainly will.

Kyle Anderson was a far superior prospect.

I don't see how you say that full stop. Anderson was the last pick in the 1st round, & his profile didn't scream 10yr pro

At the time he was one of my top choices to be a Raptor. It was between him, Zach Lavine (who was picked before us), Clint Capela, and Damien Inglis () for me.

Sure, he was slow, but he was clearly the catalyst for UCLA. He has a drool worthy standing reach and wingspan if I’m not mistaken either. Those tools with those smarts were quite impressive to me.

George isn’t on Anderson’s level. Not even close.

Edit: Saying that he went 30th is also a bit disingenuous. That draft had Wiggins, Parker, Embiid, Randle, Lavine, Gordon, Smart, Nurkic, Capela, Bogdanovic, not to mention Jokic in the 2nd round. George wouldn’t be drafted that year, much less be picked in the first round like Anderson was.

[DreamTeam09]

Kyle Anderson was a far superior prospect.

I don't see how you say that full stop. Anderson was the last pick in the 1st round, & his profile didn't scream 10yr pro

He had alot of hype coming out of highschool as possibly a jumbo point guard, but then everyone realized that wasn't going to be the case once he played in college, because just like Kyshawn he can't break his man down off the dribble. I would say at the end of their first year in the pros, they are similar level prospects.

George looks like he can operate out of the PnR and has jumper with range out of the 3pt line, that alone should make him compareble to Kyle. The reason why Kyle went so low cuz u knew the offense wasn't gonna be there. I'm guessing the reason George isn't mocked near the higher end of this draft is because ppl know/assume the defense isn't going to be there.
I still don't see why Kyle would be the superior prospect.
I get the HS hype, but a lot of player in this draft had HS hype and will be drafted in the bottom 15.
Calling George a waste of a 1st rounder is a little harsh

[OakleyDokely]

I will say, George did show improvement as the season went on, which is a good sign. His performance was sorta like Dick's rookie season with the Raps where he looked completely out of place early, but then found his stride.

His first 7 games: 13.0 MIN, 2.6 PPG, .273 FG, .250 3PT, .392 TS
His next 24 games: 26.0 MIN, 9.1 PPG, .446 FG, .422 3PT, .606 TS

He also put up 42/41/79 splits as a starter in 16 games.

[DreamTeam09]

Kyle Anderson was a far superior prospect.

I don't see how you say that full stop. Anderson was the last pick in the 1st round, & his profile didn't scream 10yr pro

At the time he was one of my top choices to be a Raptor. It was between him, Zach Lavine (who was picked before us), Clint Capela, and Damien Inglis () for me.

Sure, he was slow, but he was clearly the catalyst for UCLA. He has a drool worthy standing reach and wingspan if I’m not mistaken either. Those tools with those smarts were quite impressive to me.

George isn’t on Anderson’s level. Not even close.

Edit: Saying that he went 30th is also a bit disingenuous. That draft had Wiggins, Parker, Embiid, Randle, Lavine, Gordon, Smart, Nurkic, Capela, Bogdanovic, not to mention Jokic in the 2nd round. George wouldn’t be drafted that year, much less be picked in the first round like Anderson was.

Plenty of bums went in the 1st round of that draft.

PJ Hairston
Josh Huestis
CJ Wilcox
Jordan Hood
Mitch McGrary
Bruno
James Young
Tyler Ennis
Heck Statukus went 9th

George would be mocked in the same range in the draft as he is in this one. Anywhere from 17-30

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[BoyzNTheHood]

I don't see how you say that full stop. Anderson was the last pick in the 1st round, & his profile didn't scream 10yr pro

At the time he was one of my top choices to be a Raptor. It was between him, Zach Lavine (who was picked before us), Clint Capela, and Damien Inglis () for me.

Sure, he was slow, but he was clearly the catalyst for UCLA. He has a drool worthy standing reach and wingspan if I’m not mistaken either. Those tools with those smarts were quite impressive to me.

George isn’t on Anderson’s level. Not even close.

Edit: Saying that he went 30th is also a bit disingenuous. That draft had Wiggins, Parker, Embiid, Randle, Lavine, Gordon, Smart, Nurkic, Capela, Bogdanovic, not to mention Jokic in the 2nd round. George wouldn’t be drafted that year, much less be picked in the first round like Anderson was.

Plenty of bums went in the 1st round of that draft.

PJ Hairston
Josh Huestis
CJ Wilcox
Jordan Hood
Mitch McGrary
Bruno
James Young
Tyler Ennis
Heck Statukus went 9th

George would be mocked in the same range in the draft as he is in this one. Anywhere from 17-30

No he wouldn’t. He would be mocked far below Anderson, and deservedly so. That draft had stars all over it. This one is more of a role player draft, and George will be lucky if he turns out better than even the likes of Kevin Knox, who was also a far superior prospect.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I will say, George did show improvement as the season went on, which is a good sign. His performance was sorta like Dick's rookie season with the Raps where he looked completely out of place early, but then found his stride.

His first 7 games: 13.0 MIN, 2.6 PPG, .273 FG, .250 3PT, .392 TS
His next 24 games: 26.0 MIN, 9.1 PPG, .446 FG, .422 3PT, .606 TS

He also put up 42/41/79 splits as a starter in 16 games.

George's defense and rebounding are concerns for me. The NBA playoffs are again demonstrating that if you can't rebound, you can't win.

[ForeverTFC]

I don't see how you say that full stop. Anderson was the last pick in the 1st round, & his profile didn't scream 10yr pro

He had alot of hype coming out of highschool as possibly a jumbo point guard, but then everyone realized that wasn't going to be the case once he played in college, because just like Kyshawn he can't break his man down off the dribble. I would say at the end of their first year in the pros, they are similar level prospects.

George looks like he can operate out of the PnR and has jumper with range out of the 3pt line, that alone should make him compareble to Kyle. The reason why Kyle went so low cuz u knew the offense wasn't gonna be there. I'm guessing the reason George isn't mocked near the higher end of this draft is because ppl know/assume the defense isn't going to be there.
I still don't see why Kyle would be the superior prospect.
I get the HS hype, but a lot of player in this draft had HS hype and will be drafted in the bottom 15.
Calling George a waste of a 1st rounder is a little harsh

You're really undervaluing Kyle Anderson as a prospect entering the draft. First of all, he averaged 15, 9, and 7 as a PG at UCLA. Those were pretty eye-popping Pac-12 stats at that time. He was being comp'd as a jumbo PG and people would bring up Magic Johnson when discussing him. He had an exceptional ability to read and process that floor and was routinely called the smartest player in the draft with the highest BB IQ, which btw is a massive reason why he has had such a long career in the league despite his limited speed and athleticism. His ceiling was thought to be Jalen Rose and his floor was thought to be Boris Diaw. If Anderson had even average athleticism, he would have gone top 10. And because he had no athleticism, he almost went 2nd round except that the Spurs really valued the IQ part of it, which again is what ended up being his biggest skill that kept him in the league.

[Syd-TK3]

I don't think George fits the Raps profile, especially in this draft range. He isn't an analytics darling, he really isn't that versatile on either end, he wasn't a consistent/elite producer in college and he isn't a crazy athlete or abnormally big for his position . Maybe they take a shot on him if he's there at 31, but Id be surprised if they took him 19.

I think the main skills here are size/ length, defensive instincts and the fact that he can really stroke it for an 18 year old prospect that I believe just got to the states? May be wrong there, but being able to hit those percentages and with many of those shots coming at NBA range, not just a toes on the line type of guy, could be the calling card. The guy kind of has a profile that is like a Cam Johnson, pre-injury Otto Porter, better shooting Kyle Anderson. A mix of those guys is his ceiling to me, he's just very young and we don't know if he will make it. But, in my opinion he has the shot taking and making down from distance. We all know that's a very valuable skill, and a decent one to bet on at 31, and I'd be open to it at 19, especially if you buy his defence being above average, he'd definitely have a fit on this roster.

George isn't 18 btw he's gonna be 21 in December

[XTC]

I don't see how you say that full stop. Anderson was the last pick in the 1st round, & his profile didn't scream 10yr pro

He had alot of hype coming out of highschool as possibly a jumbo point guard, but then everyone realized that wasn't going to be the case once he played in college, because just like Kyshawn he can't break his man down off the dribble. I would say at the end of their first year in the pros, they are similar level prospects.

George looks like he can operate out of the PnR and has jumper with range out of the 3pt line, that alone should make him compareble to Kyle. The reason why Kyle went so low cuz u knew the offense wasn't gonna be there. I'm guessing the reason George isn't mocked near the higher end of this draft is because ppl know/assume the defense isn't going to be there.
I still don't see why Kyle would be the superior prospect.
I get the HS hype, but a lot of player in this draft had HS hype and will be drafted in the bottom 15.
Calling George a waste of a 1st rounder is a little harsh

George might be a tad bit more athletic than Kyle Anderson (still below average), but then you realize he's 6-7 with a 6-10 wingspan, while Kyle Anderson is 6-8 with a 7-3 wingspan, while having 10x better analytics than George, it just becomes a tad difficult to get excited over a guy like George.

While 40% from 3 on 4 attempts is nice, but what else does he do? He's a good, but not great defender at the college level, he's unselfish and shows playmaking potential, but without a length advantage or the ability to get by his man, how useful is that at the NBA level? I just don't see what his role at the next level is going to be.

[Mark_83]

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[UnbelievablyRAW]

Can lowkey see a big taken 19 and someone like Shead at 31

[WuTang_CMB]

I don't think George is worth a 19th pick even in this draft. I think the lack of athleticism for a wing even at 6'8" hurts him and caps him at a bench rotation wing guy.

These guys believe in his game though. "Has a bunch of skills in shooting, passing, dribbling, but hasn't been unlocked all at once yet".. comp = nic batum

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