**NBA Draft Discussion 2024**

[MettaWorldPanda]

Should we be paying more attention to Tyler Smith who we actually brought in here for a workout? Feel like we haven't talked about him enough and all I see is one of the sweetest shooting lefty strokes from a 6'11 player I haven't seen in a minute. I mean that 3 point shot is silky smooth. Probably one of the truest shooting stretch 4/5's in this draft in terms of pureness on that shot. I understand the Blazers like him a lot and he's had discussions with Scoot from the Ignite connections.

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If Smith was 6'11 he would be more intriguing but he is smaller than Bam. He needs to prove he can defend the perimeter. I rather have Bobi Klintman

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From a team that's coming off playing Haywood Highsmith and Caleb Martin at the 4 I don't see what the issue of Tyler Smith being the same size as Bam since he'll be the one stretching the floor. Looks like he can also weakside protect the rim with some blocking capabilities. Bobi Klintman looks like a nice prospect but I'm talking about the guy we actually worked out and who's worked out with a bunch of teams picking within our range. Bobi looks to be a late 1st or early second type of prospect.

Official combine measurements

Bobi Klintman 6'8.75 w/o shoes 6'11 reach 212 pounds

Tyler Smith 6'9 w/o shoes 7'1 reach 224 pounds

[DayofMourning]

Two more weeks dudes. So close.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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6'4" with a 6'10" span. Efficiency went down this year after an increase in volume.

[twix2500]

Should we be paying more attention to Tyler Smith who we actually brought in here for a workout? Feel like we haven't talked about him enough and all I see is one of the sweetest shooting lefty strokes from a 6'11 player I haven't seen in a minute. I mean that 3 point shot is silky smooth. Probably one of the truest shooting stretch 4/5's in this draft in terms of pureness on that shot. I understand the Blazers like him a lot and he's had discussions with Scoot from the Ignite connections.

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If Smith was 6'11 he would be more intriguing but he is smaller than Bam. He needs to prove he can defend the perimeter. I rather have Bobi Klintman

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From a team that's coming off playing Haywood Highsmith and Caleb Martin at the 4 I don't see what the issue of Tyler Smith being the same size as Bam since he'll be the one stretching the floor. Looks like he can also weakside protect the rim with some blocking capabilities. Bobi Klintman looks like a nice prospect but I'm talking about the guy we actually worked out and who's worked out with a bunch of teams picking within our range. Bobi looks to be a late 1st or early second type of prospect.

Official combine measurements

Bobi Klintman 6'8.75 w/o shoes 6'11 reach 212 pounds

Tyler Smith 6'9 w/o shoes 7'1 reach 224 pounds

Smith is too small to be strictly a center. Smith is a weak defender in general. Yea he can block some shots but he is not Alonzo Mornning or Robert Williams as a shot blocker. His defense is weak in general. If you are the size of Klintman and Smith and even Bam, you need to be versitale on defense. Unless he proves something in workouts that he can be a switching defender then sure, he will be in the g-league his rookie season.

As of right now, he is a good runner and has a pretty jumper but not good at it yet. The rest of his game is weak and undeveloped. He is a project. And maybe since he is so young, he still has a growth spurt in him.

[RexBoyWonder]

Honestly trying to think about fit is somewhat funny considering we have no clue what the hell is gonna happen with this roster.

If we keep Jimmy and trade for Mitchell, I'd be OK with drafting Da Silva (for example) at #15. Wouldn't be thrilled about it, but I'd be content.

If we don't get Mitchell and trade Jimmy away for a non superstar and still pick Da Silva #15 - I might break this laptop.

Context matters.

[Daffy]

Honestly trying to think about fit is somewhat funny considering we have no clue what the hell is gonna happen with this roster.

If we keep Jimmy and trade for Mitchell, I'd be OK with drafting Da Silva (for example) at #15. Wouldn't be thrilled about it, but I'd be content.

If we don't get Mitchell and trade Jimmy away for a non superstar and still pick Da Silva #15 - I might break this laptop.

Context matters.

I'll say this much. If we trade for Mitchell whoever we take at 15 is probably going in a trade for him.

[contract]

Honestly trying to think about fit is somewhat funny considering we have no clue what the hell is gonna happen with this roster.

If we keep Jimmy and trade for Mitchell, I'd be OK with drafting Da Silva (for example) at #15. Wouldn't be thrilled about it, but I'd be content.

If we don't get Mitchell and trade Jimmy away for a non superstar and still pick Da Silva #15 - I might break this laptop.

Context matters.

Has anyone come up with any plausible reason for the Cavs trading Mitchell, let alone to us? Can anyone think of any reason why they'd give Mitchell away after trading the world for him?

The Cavs gave up Markkanen, Sexton, Agbaji, and a raft of 1st round picks and swaps. Our best offer may not even be enough to cover the loss of those picks.

Folks, it just ain't happening.

[DayofMourning]

https://www.nbadraft.net/2024-nba-extended-mock-draft-5-0/

Multiple mentions of team and player preferences I hadnt heard yet. Interesting if true.

[lastb1ckman]

Should we be paying more attention to Tyler Smith who we actually brought in here for a workout? Feel like we haven't talked about him enough and all I see is one of the sweetest shooting lefty strokes from a 6'11 player I haven't seen in a minute. I mean that 3 point shot is silky smooth. Probably one of the truest shooting stretch 4/5's in this draft in terms of pureness on that shot. I understand the Blazers like him a lot and he's had discussions with Scoot from the Ignite connections.

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If Smith was 6'11 he would be more intriguing but he is smaller than Bam. He needs to prove he can defend the perimeter. I rather have Bobi Klintman

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From a team that's coming off playing Haywood Highsmith and Caleb Martin at the 4 I don't see what the issue of Tyler Smith being the same size as Bam since he'll be the one stretching the floor. Looks like he can also weakside protect the rim with some blocking capabilities. Bobi Klintman looks like a nice prospect but I'm talking about the guy we actually worked out and who's worked out with a bunch of teams picking within our range. Bobi looks to be a late 1st or early second type of prospect.

Official combine measurements

Bobi Klintman 6'8.75 w/o shoes 6'11 reach 212 pounds

Tyler Smith 6'9 w/o shoes 7'1 reach 224 pounds

The problem isn't size, it's that he doesn't know how to play nba level defense. Hes got the tools to be an athletic 3&D 4, but little of the mentals. He'd likely wouldn't be on the floor till atleast year 2, plus he's got Jovic in front of him.

[Wiltside]

I like the look of Djurisic. Not sure he will be there at our second round pick, but he looks nice.

[wadenation305]

Honestly trying to think about fit is somewhat funny considering we have no clue what the hell is gonna happen with this roster.

If we keep Jimmy and trade for Mitchell, I'd be OK with drafting Da Silva (for example) at #15. Wouldn't be thrilled about it, but I'd be content.

If we don't get Mitchell and trade Jimmy away for a non superstar and still pick Da Silva #15 - I might break this laptop.

Context matters.

Has anyone come up with any plausible reason for the Cavs trading Mitchell, let alone to us? Can anyone think of any reason why they'd give Mitchell away after trading the world for him?

The Cavs gave up Markkanen, Sexton, Agbaji, and a raft of 1st round picks and swaps. Our best offer may not even be enough to cover the loss of those picks.

Folks, it just ain't happening.

I don't think anyone is saying they have to trade him to us or even trade him at all. It all depends and what Mitchell does and what other teams offer for him with only 1 year left on his contract. If he quietly tells them that he won't extend and explore free agency. They might feel inclined to trade him to the best offer they can get. At that point it really depends on what Mitchell does and the other interested parties. If Mitchell tells them, You can trade for me, I'll play out my contract, but I'm not going to extend. That team then needs to decide what they can risk loosing if he just walks at the end of the year. Depending on that, our offer might be the best one. Now the Cavs don't have to trade him if they don't want to. They can keep him on the team and call his bluff. But then it would be much worse, having given up so much for him, and then letting him walk without even a single pick coming back

[MettaWorldPanda]

Honestly trying to think about fit is somewhat funny considering we have no clue what the hell is gonna happen with this roster.

If we keep Jimmy and trade for Mitchell, I'd be OK with drafting Da Silva (for example) at #15. Wouldn't be thrilled about it, but I'd be content.

If we don't get Mitchell and trade Jimmy away for a non superstar and still pick Da Silva #15 - I might break this laptop.

Context matters.

Has anyone come up with any plausible reason for the Cavs trading Mitchell, let alone to us? Can anyone think of any reason why they'd give Mitchell away after trading the world for him?

The Cavs gave up Markkanen, Sexton, Agbaji, and a raft of 1st round picks and swaps. Our best offer may not even be enough to cover the loss of those picks.

Folks, it just ain't happening.

Tis the season for heartbreak hope traffic

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Please work him out

[twix2500]

Honestly trying to think about fit is somewhat funny considering we have no clue what the hell is gonna happen with this roster.

If we keep Jimmy and trade for Mitchell, I'd be OK with drafting Da Silva (for example) at #15. Wouldn't be thrilled about it, but I'd be content.

If we don't get Mitchell and trade Jimmy away for a non superstar and still pick Da Silva #15 - I might break this laptop.

Context matters.

I think fit is relative when your talking about Spo system not necessarily who he complements and if you are drafting a player who is projected as a role player.

[MettaWorldPanda]

https://www.nbadraft.net/2024-nba-extended-mock-draft-5-0/

Multiple mentions of team and player preferences I hadnt heard yet. Interesting if true.

Solid Mock tbh

[greg4012]

Can't quit the Daron Holmes deep dive.

IMO something that isn't fully appreciated about him, is that he's not just a guy who has flashed advanced impact and skill that translates to the NBA as an upperclassmen/older college player.



Look at the group of FRESHMAN that have exceeded these baseline thresholds. All impact NBA big men.

TS >= 55% (Holmes was at 64% as a FR)
DRB% >= 15% (Holmes was at 17.5% as a FR)
AST% >= 9% (Holmes was at 9.1% as a FR)
BLK% >= 6% (Holmes was at 8.7% as a FR)
FTR >= 30% (Holmes was at 49.6% as a FR)
2 pt FGM >= 4 (Holmes was at 5.2 as a FR)
OBPM >= 4 (Holmes was at 4.7 as a FR)
DBPM >= 2 (Holmes was at 3.8 as a FR)
Dunks >= 50 (Holmes was at 82 as a FR)

This is a total list of all college FR since 2008 to hit these marks.

Dude has had clear indicators that his big man game will translate to the NBA level from the jump. Then he went and added more diversity to his game every season to become a more multi-faceted offensive and defensive player. I also buy into the 3 pt shot translating into average production at the next level

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Fun thread to look thru to see what this model puts out for projecting prospects 3 pt shooting at next level. Can’t speak to the efficacy of the model.

[lastb1ckman]

https://www.nbadraft.net/2024-nba-extended-mock-draft-5-0/

Multiple mentions of team and player preferences I hadnt heard yet. Interesting if true.

Solid Mock tbh

I can't get over the idea of the Pistons taking Buzelis. He can't shoot, and his whole appeal is that he's a huge guard that handles well for his size and has good athleticism. Go head and put him on the worst shooting team in the league, who's only top end prospect is a large ball dominate PG? There's multiple shooters in the lottery this draft, you can't be the worst team in history again.