2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[wegotthabeet]

Holiday
White
Brown
Tatum
Porzingis

vs

Quickley
?
Barrett
Barnes
Poeltl

Who ya got

Lowry
Green
Leonard
Siakam
Gasol

+Vanvleet, Ibaka, Powell & Anunoby

I'm referring more to what the Raps have to contend with at least until Boston has to pay everyone to keep them together

Who cares? They are nowhere near contention.

[MainEvent]

raps in 3

[aminiaturebuddha]

Holiday
White
Brown
Tatum
Porzingis

vs

Quickley
?
Barrett
Barnes
Poeltl

Who ya got

Lowry
Green
Leonard
Siakam
Gasol

+Vanvleet, Ibaka, Powell & Anunoby

I'm referring more to what the Raps have to contend with at least until Boston has to pay everyone to keep them together

This year and next year is really Boston's window to be dominant before that becomes an issue. Time moves quickly in the NBA.

Next off-season, Tatum will be up for a new supermax contract, and White will be an unrestricted free agent (as will Horford, and while he might be close to retirement by then, the Celtics big man depth will decline, especially with Porzingis' unreliable health, and they'll need to find a replacement). Also, Holiday will be 35 entering that 2025-26 season and still have 3 more years left on his contract.

The salary crunch for Boston will be real fairly soon. And so while the Raps certainly won't be contenders next year or likely the next, by the time they are, it'll be difficult for Boston to have the same strength up and down their roster that they do now.

[OakleyDokely]

Jonathan Mogbo's upside is really intriguing, if he can hit the 3 ball at a 32% rate like Draymond has done over his career he could be like a Draymond lite w/ less competency on D. The thing is that he initiated as a point forward quite a bit at San Fran and since Scottie is already that guy here you really don't get enough value out of Mogbo as a starter next to Scottie on offense since he would become a secondary playmaker. His whole game is playmaking, rebounding and defending. But couldn't hurt to have him as he really looks like an NBA player, smart and great physical profile and motor. Energy guys with excellent facilitating and court awareness don't grow on trees and there are some interesting outcomes with Mogbo.

I keep coming back to him because of the insane rebounding/passing/mobility for a guy his size. Since he had a growth spurt later in life, he possesses guard like skills and awareness not seen very often in jumbo wings. If a team believes they can get him shooting, I think the potential is there for him vastly outperform his draft slot. His FT shooting is decent, around 70% this year, so there's some hope. Even if the shot doesn't come around, having an energy jumbo wing who can come in off the bench, play some smallball C and rebound, defend multiple spots and keep the ball moving has value.

[SpezNc]

Ja'Kobe going top 10. Always thought the raps would take him if they had kept their pick

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Keeping the pick would have been 80% it’s a top4 pick and 20% pick #6.

That’s high for Ja’Kobe no ?

[ATLTimekeeper]

Edey's 'workout' list looks like he must have a promise with NOP at 21.

[OakleyDokely]

Don't they invite like 20-25 players? I think there will be naming more shortly. Walter probably goes in the 10-20 range.

[WuTang_CMB]

Don't they invite like 20-25 players? I think there will be naming more shortly. Walter probably goes in the 10-20 range.

They will name more but I dont think it gets that high due to day 2
I dont think NBA wants to embarrass these guys if they dont get picked on day 1

[Psubs]

Don't they invite like 20-25 players? I think there will be naming more shortly. Walter probably goes in the 10-20 range.

He should go 15-25.

Watch on YouTube

This is terrible.

I would say for Carrington:

Best Case: Tyrese Maxey
Worst Case: Nick Smith Jr
Likely: Keyonte George

[WuTang_CMB]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10124239-2024-nba-mock-draft-top-5-shakeup-plus-full-2-round-predictions-with-2-weeks-to-go

19. Toronto Raptors (via Pacers): Kyshawn George
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CORAL GABLES, FL - FEBRUARY 24: Miami guard Kyshawn George (7) drives to the basket while defended by Georgia Tech guard Miles Kelly (13) in the first half as the Miami Hurricanes faced the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets on February 24, 2024, at the Watsco Center in Coral Gables, Florida. (Photo by Samuel Lewis/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images)
Samuel Lewis/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images
May 30 Mock Draft Spot: No. 14

Team: Miami

Position: SG/SF

Size: 6'7", 209 lbs

Age/Year: 20, Freshman

Nationality: American

Pro Comparison: Dalano Banton

Kyshawn George visited the Portland Trail Blazers on Tuesday, and he'll be working out for most teams in the late lottery to mid-first round.

Scouts have been drawn to his size for a guard, shooting and ball-handling, a combination that creates an enticing archetype. His lack of strength and explosion inside the arc does hint at risk, but if he'll receive interest in the teens as a 6'7" live-dribble passer who shot 40.8 percent from three.

dont think it happens at 19

[alpngso]

Jakobe Walter is in my shortlist on do not draft category. SG who can’t get to the rim, cannot shoot when labeled as a shooter

I would rather have Raps draft Jalen Bridges with 31 than Walter with 19

[grant101]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10124239-2024-nba-mock-draft-top-5-shakeup-plus-full-2-round-predictions-with-2-weeks-to-go

19. Toronto Raptors (via Pacers): Kyshawn George
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CORAL GABLES, FL - FEBRUARY 24: Miami guard Kyshawn George (7) drives to the basket while defended by Georgia Tech guard Miles Kelly (13) in the first half as the Miami Hurricanes faced the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets on February 24, 2024, at the Watsco Center in Coral Gables, Florida. (Photo by Samuel Lewis/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images)
Samuel Lewis/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images
May 30 Mock Draft Spot: No. 14

Team: Miami

Position: SG/SF

Size: 6'7", 209 lbs

Age/Year: 20, Freshman

Nationality: American

Pro Comparison: Dalano Banton

Kyshawn George visited the Portland Trail Blazers on Tuesday, and he'll be working out for most teams in the late lottery to mid-first round.

Scouts have been drawn to his size for a guard, shooting and ball-handling, a combination that creates an enticing archetype. His lack of strength and explosion inside the arc does hint at risk, but if he'll receive interest in the teens as a 6'7" live-dribble passer who shot 40.8 percent from three.

dont think it happens at 19

Walking away with George and Klintman would be the definition of that Larry David meme. Just a giant shoulder shrug.

[BoyzNTheHood]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10124239-2024-nba-mock-draft-top-5-shakeup-plus-full-2-round-predictions-with-2-weeks-to-go

19. Toronto Raptors (via Pacers): Kyshawn George
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CORAL GABLES, FL - FEBRUARY 24: Miami guard Kyshawn George (7) drives to the basket while defended by Georgia Tech guard Miles Kelly (13) in the first half as the Miami Hurricanes faced the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets on February 24, 2024, at the Watsco Center in Coral Gables, Florida. (Photo by Samuel Lewis/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images)
Samuel Lewis/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images
May 30 Mock Draft Spot: No. 14

Team: Miami

Position: SG/SF

Size: 6'7", 209 lbs

Age/Year: 20, Freshman

Nationality: American

Pro Comparison: Dalano Banton

Kyshawn George visited the Portland Trail Blazers on Tuesday, and he'll be working out for most teams in the late lottery to mid-first round.

Scouts have been drawn to his size for a guard, shooting and ball-handling, a combination that creates an enticing archetype. His lack of strength and explosion inside the arc does hint at risk, but if he'll receive interest in the teens as a 6'7" live-dribble passer who shot 40.8 percent from three.

dont think it happens at 19

Walking away with George and Klintman would be the definition of that Larry David meme. Just a giant shoulder shrug.

Might as well just forfeit the picks

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Jonathan Mogbo's upside is really intriguing, if he can hit the 3 ball at a 32% rate like Draymond has done over his career he could be like a Draymond lite w/ less competency on D. The thing is that he initiated as a point forward quite a bit at San Fran and since Scottie is already that guy here you really don't get enough value out of Mogbo as a starter next to Scottie on offense since he would become a secondary playmaker. His whole game is playmaking, rebounding and defending. But couldn't hurt to have him as he really looks like an NBA player, smart and great physical profile and motor. Energy guys with excellent facilitating and court awareness don't grow on trees and there are some interesting outcomes with Mogbo.

I keep coming back to him because of the insane rebounding/passing/mobility for a guy his size. Since he had a growth spurt later in life, he possesses guard like skills and awareness not seen very often in jumbo wings. If a team believes they can get him shooting, I think the potential is there for him vastly outperform his draft slot. His FT shooting is decent, around 70% this year, so there's some hope. Even if the shot doesn't come around, having an energy jumbo wing who can come in off the bench, play some smallball C and rebound, defend multiple spots and keep the ball moving has value.

Yeah Mogbo is a very unique mold it's just so weird because watching him on tape he misses so many gimme shots at the rim yet still has good overall %s there because of dunks. I just really wish his touch weren't as bad as it is as that's not something which is really correctable over time. The good news is he does rebound a lot of his bad touch shots and misses at the rim.

[PushDaRock]

Jonathan Mogbo's upside is really intriguing, if he can hit the 3 ball at a 32% rate like Draymond has done over his career he could be like a Draymond lite w/ less competency on D. The thing is that he initiated as a point forward quite a bit at San Fran and since Scottie is already that guy here you really don't get enough value out of Mogbo as a starter next to Scottie on offense since he would become a secondary playmaker. His whole game is playmaking, rebounding and defending. But couldn't hurt to have him as he really looks like an NBA player, smart and great physical profile and motor. Energy guys with excellent facilitating and court awareness don't grow on trees and there are some interesting outcomes with Mogbo.

We were one of the worst rebounding teams in the league so he fills a need on that alone. He also gives us a lob threat which this team also lacks. The passing ability is very intriguing, he actually makes some great reads and it wasn't a function of just having the ball in his hands a lot. Either way, worrying about fit doesn't make too much sense when this team is lacking badly in talent.

[ArthurVandelay]

Wasserman at B/R with a new mock:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10124239-2024-nba-mock-draft-top-5-shakeup-plus-full-2-round-predictions-with-2-weeks-to-go

19: Kyshawn George
31: Klintman


Barf

[Dalek]

Jakobe Walter is in my shortlist on do not draft category. SG who can’t get to the rim, cannot shoot when labeled as a shooter

I would rather have Raps draft Jalen Bridges with 31 than Walter with 19

I am kind of the opposite of you on this one. Getting Walter at 19 is a steal and he is my likely drop candidate so it could happen.

For the first couple months of the college season he shot 42% from three but then dropped off. I think the iffy shooting numbers are because of the shot diet which will be refined in the NBA.

He is a three level scorer but he works better off screens. He shot 42% off screens. His shot chart shows his depth. Overall he has excellent form as a shooter and looks like a pull up threat.

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He is a below the rim finisher guy which is concerning but he drew fouls at a high rate so if he gets to the line about five times per game last year so it is probably not a write off.

I would say he is still young and has a strong base of skills to grow from. He just needs to add weight and naturally develop and you have a star shooting guard like Ty Maxey if things go right. Maxey also had some shooting concerns in college which he cleaned up in the NBA.

[ArthurVandelay]

Assuming the ESPN mock played out and no one dropped, at 19 I would go with Holmes or Dadiet

At 31 hope the other of Dadiet/Holmes are there (I doubt either reach it though) or Mogbo, KJ Simpson, or Smith (If he drops).

[WuTang_CMB]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10124239-2024-nba-mock-draft-top-5-shakeup-plus-full-2-round-predictions-with-2-weeks-to-go

19. Toronto Raptors (via Pacers): Kyshawn George
19 OF 58
CORAL GABLES, FL - FEBRUARY 24: Miami guard Kyshawn George (7) drives to the basket while defended by Georgia Tech guard Miles Kelly (13) in the first half as the Miami Hurricanes faced the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets on February 24, 2024, at the Watsco Center in Coral Gables, Florida. (Photo by Samuel Lewis/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images)
Samuel Lewis/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images
May 30 Mock Draft Spot: No. 14

Team: Miami

Position: SG/SF

Size: 6'7", 209 lbs

Age/Year: 20, Freshman

Nationality: American

Pro Comparison: Dalano Banton

Kyshawn George visited the Portland Trail Blazers on Tuesday, and he'll be working out for most teams in the late lottery to mid-first round.

Scouts have been drawn to his size for a guard, shooting and ball-handling, a combination that creates an enticing archetype. His lack of strength and explosion inside the arc does hint at risk, but if he'll receive interest in the teens as a 6'7" live-dribble passer who shot 40.8 percent from three.

dont think it happens at 19

Walking away with George and Klintman would be the definition of that Larry David meme. Just a giant shoulder shrug.

big time failure. I dont like either

I hope we move up with the Kings

[OakleyDokely]

The positives for Walter are that he shot well at the line (80%) and he took A LOT of 3s (7.8 per 40), so if the shot selection gets better, his %s probably go up. He also got to the line quite a bit (6.5 att per 40). His measurables are very good as well, but I'm not sure he's explosive enough or a consistent enough shooter overall to be a difference maker offensively at the NBA level.