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Post#221 » by JKiddy » Wed Jun 12, 2024 3:54 pm

Something is brewing boys.

If Schroder knows he will be traded then it means we are big fish hunting NOW...

STAY TUNED.
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Post#222 » by TheNetsFan » Wed Jun 12, 2024 4:03 pm

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Don't totally hate it but ghosts of crash going over hill at age 30 scare me there.

Assuming Simmons doesn't have any positive value, I'd probably keep him if Nets get a lead guard for a deadline deal if the team is playing well enough to justify it. It is not impossible to foresee KD or PG3 being available if those teams crash, as examples.

Is it crazy to think there might be a scenario out there where we can offload Simmons before the deadline?

It'd have to be for a player who is non going to resign and/or a team that's ready to jump in the gutter and wants to scoop some picks up in the process. And of course we'd have to attach picks to Ben.

But maybe it's best to invest those picks in a better constructed deal and just let Simmons expire the year out.

God I hate Simmons. Might take the cake for my most despised Nets player ever.


He's sort of like the Russ contract a few years ago. The Lakers tried to move his 47m forever, couldnt, but at deadline turned it into DLo, Beasley, Vanderbilt. By the deadline there will always be teams looking to move off contracts and willing to take back an expiring, especially if they get a pick or two in the deal.

The big difference is that we'll have a ton of cap space after Ben expires. The Lakers wouldn't have had space after Russ expired. You don't spend assets to move him and/or blow your future cap space unless it's for a star or important long term piece.
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Post#223 » by Netaman » Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:25 am

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Keith Van Horn wrote:Is it crazy to think there might be a scenario out there where we can offload Simmons before the deadline?

It'd have to be for a player who is non going to resign and/or a team that's ready to jump in the gutter and wants to scoop some picks up in the process. And of course we'd have to attach picks to Ben.

But maybe it's best to invest those picks in a better constructed deal and just let Simmons expire the year out.

God I hate Simmons. Might take the cake for my most despised Nets player ever.


He's sort of like the Russ contract a few years ago. The Lakers tried to move his 47m forever, couldnt, but at deadline turned it into DLo, Beasley, Vanderbilt. By the deadline there will always be teams looking to move off contracts and willing to take back an expiring, especially if they get a pick or two in the deal.

The big difference is that we'll have a ton of cap space after Ben expires. The Lakers wouldn't have had space after Russ expired. You don't spend assets to move him and/or blow your future cap space unless it's for a star or important long term piece.


agree, though it in part depends on what is looking likely to hit the FA market in 2025.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#224 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:35 am

JKiddy wrote:Something is brewing boys.

If Schroder knows he will be traded then it means we are big fish hunting NOW...

STAY TUNED.

Maybe we wind up all in for one of Mitchell or Trae and Giannis, keep Bridges and Clax? :dontknow:

Still think it’s more likely we strikeout and make a weird move though.
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Post#225 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Jun 13, 2024 3:57 am

Crazy how I was begging the Nets to trade KD for Jaylen Brown 2 years ago and most people were against it.

Would have been a way better move.
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Post#226 » by bubonicphoniks » Thu Jun 13, 2024 4:43 am

Decipher wrote:I would be approaching OKC about Giddey as he’d be perfect next to Cam

He’s a pg being played out of position and is an excellent passer and good rebounder
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Post#227 » by Keith Van Horn » Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:08 pm

JKiddy wrote:Something is brewing boys.

If Schroder knows he will be traded then it means we are big fish hunting NOW...

STAY TUNED.

wait what have you seen?
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Post#228 » by JKiddy » Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:09 pm

It might be a nothing burger but Schroder is signed through this coming season.

This came from https://www.netsdaily.com/2024/6/10/24175812/dennis-schroder-wants-back-with-brooklyn-will-be-be

“Brooklyn is a really cool, great organization, quite family-oriented,” said Schroder. “I’d definitely like to stick around for the long haul — My agent and I feel like the Nets liked how I contributed. I’ve brought in more defense, teamwork and displayed leadership, but if someone as exceptional as Giannis Antetokounmpo or another superstar wants to join Brooklyn, the Nets could make deals to acquire that player ... and that’s why nothing is certain in the NBA.”

It was strong praise from a player who’s spent time with nine NBA teams over the course of an 11-year career and as he noted, Schroder played well for Brooklyn. In his 29 games with the Nets, 25 starts, Schroder averaged 14.6 points, 6.0 assists and 3.5 rebounds on 42/41/80 shooting splits, the 41.2% from three his best number ever. He has one year left on his current contract at $13 million. He is not eligible for an extension before next summer when he will be an unrestricted free agent.

At the time of the trade that brought him from Toronto to Brooklyn, many believed that Schroder was an ideal trade piece, a solid player at a reasonable, expiring deal.

Still, his comments raised a number of questions, the biggest being what the Nets will do at the point guard position. They have Ben Simmons, a former all-star PG making $40.3 million this season but unlike a year ago, the Nets aren’t planning to build around the oft-injured 27-year-old. Will they find a starter in free agency or the trade market and hope for the best with Simmons?

What could they get for Schroder? More picks to add to their stash of 10 firsts and 11 seconds? And finally, what’s he talking about with Antetokounmpo?? More than one league source has suggested to NetsDaily that the team’s ultimate target is the All-NBA big man but he’s under contract with the Milwaukee Bucks through 2027-28 when he’ll be 33.
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Post#229 » by Netaman » Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:20 pm

JKiddy wrote:It might be a nothing burger but Schroder is signed through this coming season.

This came from https://www.netsdaily.com/2024/6/10/24175812/dennis-schroder-wants-back-with-brooklyn-will-be-be

“Brooklyn is a really cool, great organization, quite family-oriented,” said Schroder. “I’d definitely like to stick around for the long haul — My agent and I feel like the Nets liked how I contributed. I’ve brought in more defense, teamwork and displayed leadership, but if someone as exceptional as Giannis Antetokounmpo or another superstar wants to join Brooklyn, the Nets could make deals to acquire that player ... and that’s why nothing is certain in the NBA.”

It was strong praise from a player who’s spent time with nine NBA teams over the course of an 11-year career and as he noted, Schroder played well for Brooklyn. In his 29 games with the Nets, 25 starts, Schroder averaged 14.6 points, 6.0 assists and 3.5 rebounds on 42/41/80 shooting splits, the 41.2% from three his best number ever. He has one year left on his current contract at $13 million. He is not eligible for an extension before next summer when he will be an unrestricted free agent.

At the time of the trade that brought him from Toronto to Brooklyn, many believed that Schroder was an ideal trade piece, a solid player at a reasonable, expiring deal.

Still, his comments raised a number of questions, the biggest being what the Nets will do at the point guard position. They have Ben Simmons, a former all-star PG making $40.3 million this season but unlike a year ago, the Nets aren’t planning to build around the oft-injured 27-year-old. Will they find a starter in free agency or the trade market and hope for the best with Simmons?

What could they get for Schroder? More picks to add to their stash of 10 firsts and 11 seconds? And finally, what’s he talking about with Antetokounmpo?? More than one league source has suggested to NetsDaily that the team’s ultimate target is the All-NBA big man but he’s under contract with the Milwaukee Bucks through 2027-28 when he’ll be 33.


Before he signed his extension there were some questions about whether greek freak wanted out of milwaukee. they extended him after getting Lillard, but maybe that ends up not having been enough? Like KD, getting him would take an absolute haul though. Basically everything left not tied down. I think that's an only in case of emergency move for Milwaukee though, meaning they will at least give it one more season to try to work things out. They won 2 games off Indy without him, with him they probably easily win that series.
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Post#230 » by JKiddy » Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:37 pm

I am scared we are about to give up so many picks for someone like him or him. I hope we still keep one of the PHX picks if this happens along with Claxton, Bridges, Clowney, Cam T, and a PG who can break down a defense some and create for others.
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Post#231 » by NetsWorld » Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:39 pm

Netaman wrote:
JKiddy wrote:It might be a nothing burger but Schroder is signed through this coming season.

This came from https://www.netsdaily.com/2024/6/10/24175812/dennis-schroder-wants-back-with-brooklyn-will-be-be

“Brooklyn is a really cool, great organization, quite family-oriented,” said Schroder. “I’d definitely like to stick around for the long haul — My agent and I feel like the Nets liked how I contributed. I’ve brought in more defense, teamwork and displayed leadership, but if someone as exceptional as Giannis Antetokounmpo or another superstar wants to join Brooklyn, the Nets could make deals to acquire that player ... and that’s why nothing is certain in the NBA.”

It was strong praise from a player who’s spent time with nine NBA teams over the course of an 11-year career and as he noted, Schroder played well for Brooklyn. In his 29 games with the Nets, 25 starts, Schroder averaged 14.6 points, 6.0 assists and 3.5 rebounds on 42/41/80 shooting splits, the 41.2% from three his best number ever. He has one year left on his current contract at $13 million. He is not eligible for an extension before next summer when he will be an unrestricted free agent.

At the time of the trade that brought him from Toronto to Brooklyn, many believed that Schroder was an ideal trade piece, a solid player at a reasonable, expiring deal.

Still, his comments raised a number of questions, the biggest being what the Nets will do at the point guard position. They have Ben Simmons, a former all-star PG making $40.3 million this season but unlike a year ago, the Nets aren’t planning to build around the oft-injured 27-year-old. Will they find a starter in free agency or the trade market and hope for the best with Simmons?

What could they get for Schroder? More picks to add to their stash of 10 firsts and 11 seconds? And finally, what’s he talking about with Antetokounmpo?? More than one league source has suggested to NetsDaily that the team’s ultimate target is the All-NBA big man but he’s under contract with the Milwaukee Bucks through 2027-28 when he’ll be 33.


Before he signed his extension there were some questions about whether greek freak wanted out of milwaukee. they extended him after getting Lillard, but maybe that ends up not having been enough? Like KD, getting him would take an absolute haul though. Basically everything left not tied down. I think that's an only in case of emergency move for Milwaukee though, meaning they will at least give it one more season to try to work things out. They won 2 games off Indy without him, with him they probably easily win that series.



Star chasing has not panned out for the Nets, perhaps it's just time the team gets good at scouting star talent and drafting accordingly and follow what OKC did. I don't want the Nets trading assets to make a dynasty in Milwaukee, We already built a dynasty in Boston, let's not make that mistake again. And we may have even built one in Houston already as well.
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Post#232 » by Keith Van Horn » Thu Jun 13, 2024 3:56 pm

Yeah I would like to keep those 2028-29 and beyond picks, just to keep the cupboard stacked if this current approach flatlines.

But I'd still really like the Nets to do something this year. It was just such a miserable year to be a fan. There've been many other losing seasons where my interest was held to watch each night. This past year was just... ugh, not fun in the slightest.

I think it may have been more of an indictment on how the KD/Kyrie/Harden era ended with absolutely squat, and how we should have won at LEAST 1 title, but got nothing but a wet fart.

If we hear some rumors about Young or Garland, I'd probably be pretty interested. I don't think a Mitchell move will happen, but that's not to say other lowkey solid moves are out there to be made to really help right the ship.
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Post#233 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Jun 13, 2024 4:49 pm

Keith Van Horn wrote:Yeah I would like to keep those 2028-29 and beyond picks, just to keep the cupboard stacked if this current approach flatlines.

But I'd still really like the Nets to do something this year. It was just such a miserable year to be a fan. There've been many other losing seasons where my interest was held to watch each night. This past year was just... ugh, not fun in the slightest.

I think it may have been more of an indictment on how the KD/Kyrie/Harden era ended with absolutely squat, and how we should have won at LEAST 1 title, but got nothing but a wet fart.

If we hear some rumors about Young or Garland, I'd probably be pretty interested. I don't think a Mitchell move will happen, but that's not to say other lowkey solid moves are out there to be made to really help right the ship.


I'm fully on board with trading for Garland or Young. Lets make the playoffs and be fun to watch again.

We can't do what we did last time where we bottom out and give our picks to other teams.
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Post#234 » by Karate Diop » Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:17 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Keith Van Horn wrote:Yeah I would like to keep those 2028-29 and beyond picks, just to keep the cupboard stacked if this current approach flatlines.

But I'd still really like the Nets to do something this year. It was just such a miserable year to be a fan. There've been many other losing seasons where my interest was held to watch each night. This past year was just... ugh, not fun in the slightest.

I think it may have been more of an indictment on how the KD/Kyrie/Harden era ended with absolutely squat, and how we should have won at LEAST 1 title, but got nothing but a wet fart.

If we hear some rumors about Young or Garland, I'd probably be pretty interested. I don't think a Mitchell move will happen, but that's not to say other lowkey solid moves are out there to be made to really help right the ship.


I'm fully on board with trading for Garland or Young. Lets make the playoffs and be fun to watch again.

We can't do what we did last time where we bottom out and give our picks to other teams.


I'd take Young, not so sure about Garland...
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Post#235 » by therealbig3 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:41 pm

The problem is, we kind of suck in terms of fanbase. Honestly. We have a billion dollar arena that's barely going to sell tickets if we do the OKC approach and just patiently scout and draft and keep compiling picks and young assets until we build a core that we can win with. We also have a huge little brother complex and a pretty one-sided competition with the Knicks at an organizational level, so everything we do is with them in mind.

That's why we've been so star-focused and so intent on selling the farm for win-now situations, because if we don't, we don't have patient ownership that's willing to wait it out, because we won't be selling tickets and all of the attention is gonna go to the Knicks. We barely became a talking point compared to the Knicks when we had KD/Kyrie/Harden and were cruising towards a title until injuries knocked us out, you think winning 30-40 games a season while we develop a core organically without wasting assets is how our team wants to go? Nah, we're gonna go for a core that wins 40-50 games, has no real team success outside of what, a 2nd round appearance at best, and continues to mortgage our future. Until that runs its course, and we have to deal with another 5 years or so of having no talent and no assets and then do the whole thing over again.

Sucks being a Nets fan.
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Post#236 » by therealbig3 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:46 pm

Like, we legitimately gifted Boston a championship, after giving them years of a perennial contender. And they're still in great position to continue to win titles. Regardless, Boston fans know their team is a lock for 50-60 wins, if not more, every year and will be one of a handful of teams that has a legitimate shot at a title. While still being young with draft capital. That's what happens when you don't panic because you have a loyal fanbase no matter what and you're not in a rivalry with another team that only exists in your own head, because the other team doesn't even think about you.
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Post#237 » by therealbig3 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:52 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Crazy how I was begging the Nets to trade KD for Jaylen Brown 2 years ago and most people were against it.

Would have been a way better move.


Don't remember where I was on that discussion, think I may have been for it, because I've always liked Brown and KD really didn't want to stay.

But Brown on the Nets is not Brown on the Celtics.

With that said, I really like Bridges. Unfortunately, he's a wasted talent on our current team...for his sake, I think moving on for him to let him contribute on a contender elsewhere would be the best move. We can also help recoup draft capital from him.
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Post#238 » by Hello Brooklyn » Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:07 am

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:Crazy how I was begging the Nets to trade KD for Jaylen Brown 2 years ago and most people were against it.

Would have been a way better move.


Don't remember where I was on that discussion, think I may have been for it, because I've always liked Brown and KD really didn't want to stay.

But Brown on the Nets is not Brown on the Celtics.

With that said, I really like Bridges. Unfortunately, he's a wasted talent on our current team...for his sake, I think moving on for him to let him contribute on a contender elsewhere would be the best move. We can also help recoup draft capital from him.


Hes not. But hes WAY better than Bridges.

And I think we are a playoff team with a scorer like him.
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Post#239 » by Papi_swav » Fri Jun 14, 2024 7:43 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
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Hello Brooklyn wrote:Crazy how I was begging the Nets to trade KD for Jaylen Brown 2 years ago and most people were against it.

Would have been a way better move.


Don't remember where I was on that discussion, think I may have been for it, because I've always liked Brown and KD really didn't want to stay.

But Brown on the Nets is not Brown on the Celtics.

With that said, I really like Bridges. Unfortunately, he's a wasted talent on our current team...for his sake, I think moving on for him to let him contribute on a contender elsewhere would be the best move. We can also help recoup draft capital from him.


Hes not. But hes WAY better than Bridges.

And I think we are a playoff team with a scorer like him.

I feel you, I was one that didn't like that trade, I felt like we needed a little more. But now, I definitely would of done that trade. But on the other hand we got a bunch of Suns picks and they might actually suck during those years, it would be nice if finally catch a break and draft a star for once but the NBA don't like giving us the #1 pick for whatever reason.

Also like therealbig 3 said, Brown wouldn't be as good here as he is in Boston. He would be double teamed all the time and probably get exposed even more. Regardless he's still a very good player and better than Bridges. We just have to hope Suns suck during the late 20 years.
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