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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1021 » by JMAC3 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 4:39 pm

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What 2 straight championships are not sufficient leverage?

The Lakers came to him. He's free to negotiate before his contract becomes official with UConn. The governor of the state of Connecticut publicly announced he will see to it Hurley is the highest paid coach in college.

The highest state official.

When that guy is on your side, really think you need the Lakers to boost your position?


I am saying...... if it was for leverage he is never admitting it lol..


Apparently not, he thinks it's one of the worst takes he's ever heard. Pretty clear denouncement of your theory.


I don't think you get what I am saying... so if it was for Leverage... you think he would have said

"I was never taking Lakers job, I just wanted Uconn to up their offer. The theories were spot on." lol
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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1022 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 13, 2024 4:50 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
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I am saying...... if it was for leverage he is never admitting it lol..


Apparently not, he thinks it's one of the worst takes he's ever heard. Pretty clear denouncement of your theory.


I don't think you get what I am saying... so if it was for Leverage... you think he would have said

"I was never taking Lakers job, I just wanted Uconn to up their offer. The theories were spot on." lol


When you win 2 straight championships you're not exactly in a position where you need leverage.

You're insulting him.
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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1023 » by JMAC3 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:47 pm

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Apparently not, he thinks it's one of the worst takes he's ever heard. Pretty clear denouncement of your theory.


I don't think you get what I am saying... so if it was for Leverage... you think he would have said

"I was never taking Lakers job, I just wanted Uconn to up their offer. The theories were spot on." lol


When you win 2 straight championships you're not exactly in a position where you need leverage.

You're insulting him.


This was a week ago...
Read on Twitter


"It has taken more time than any of us would of thought or liked"... so it was pretty clear the deal wasn't done.

Then the news breaks he is interviewing with Lakers... He turns it down. And then magically Uconn and him sign the extension a day later. Hard to believe those two are completely unrelated.
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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1024 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:03 pm

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I don't think you get what I am saying... so if it was for Leverage... you think he would have said

"I was never taking Lakers job, I just wanted Uconn to up their offer. The theories were spot on." lol


When you win 2 straight championships you're not exactly in a position where you need leverage.

You're insulting him.


This was a week ago...
Read on Twitter


"It has taken more time than any of us would of thought or liked"... so it was pretty clear the deal wasn't done.

Then the news breaks he is interviewing with Lakers... He turns it down. And then magically Uconn and him sign the extension a day later. Hard to believe those two are completely unrelated.


You keep trying to diminish the 2 National Championships.

Read on Twitter
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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1025 » by JMAC3 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:08 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
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When you win 2 straight championships you're not exactly in a position where you need leverage.

You're insulting him.


This was a week ago...
Read on Twitter


"It has taken more time than any of us would of thought or liked"... so it was pretty clear the deal wasn't done.

Then the news breaks he is interviewing with Lakers... He turns it down. And then magically Uconn and him sign the extension a day later. Hard to believe those two are completely unrelated.


You keep trying to diminish the 2 National Championships.

Read on Twitter


Brother breathe, nobody is trying to diminish or take away Uconns two championships.
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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1026 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:27 pm

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This was a week ago...
Read on Twitter


"It has taken more time than any of us would of thought or liked"... so it was pretty clear the deal wasn't done.

Then the news breaks he is interviewing with Lakers... He turns it down. And then magically Uconn and him sign the extension a day later. Hard to believe those two are completely unrelated.


You keep trying to diminish the 2 National Championships.

Read on Twitter


Brother breathe, nobody is trying to diminish or take away Uconns two championships.


You don't have to worry about me defending Hurley. He's the one holding the mic. He put his detractors with this terrible take on mute.

My position is pretty relaxing and easy.
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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1027 » by JMAC3 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:33 pm

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You keep trying to diminish the 2 National Championships.

Read on Twitter


Brother breathe, nobody is trying to diminish or take away Uconns two championships.


You don't have to worry about me defending Hurley. He's the one holding the mic. He put his detractors with this terrible take on mute.

My position is pretty relaxing and easy.


Lol if anything what your saying is money had nothing to do with it... so he actually only took the interview with the Lakers because he was going to leave... if anything that is the opposite of whatever you're preaching about the 2 titles. Because if it wasn't money then why even hear them out?
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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1028 » by yosemiteben » Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:38 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
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When you win 2 straight championships you're not exactly in a position where you need leverage.

You're insulting him.


This was a week ago...
Read on Twitter


"It has taken more time than any of us would of thought or liked"... so it was pretty clear the deal wasn't done.

Then the news breaks he is interviewing with Lakers... He turns it down. And then magically Uconn and him sign the extension a day later. Hard to believe those two are completely unrelated.


You keep trying to diminish the 2 National Championships.

No he doesn't, he posted Hurley himself saying the deal wasn't done. That's not minimizing anything unless you are saying Hurley was minimizing it.
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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1029 » by JMAC3 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:41 pm

Boston is bringing everyone back next year. If there were to upgrade any position, it would feel like it would be the Payton Pritchard spot. He is shooting 1/13 in the playoffs with his only make being a half court heave.

Boston has pick 30. Would you trade Vasa for that pick?
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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1030 » by LofJ » Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:47 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Boston is bringing everyone back next year. If there were to upgrade any position, it would feel like it would be the Payton Pritchard spot. He is shooting 1/13 in the playoffs with his only make being a half court heave.

Boston has pick 30. Would you trade Vasa for that pick?


Nope, we have too many young guys with marginal NBA talent on the roster already.
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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1031 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:13 pm

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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1032 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:16 pm

It's possible both LeBron's former and current teams end up with Hornets leftovers.

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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1033 » by LofJ » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:28 pm

It was idiotic of us to fire Borrego in the first place. I don't care that we got blown out in the play-in game back to back. I am almost 100% sure that was a MJ decision.
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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1034 » by amcoolio » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:35 pm

I think the players clearly quit on Borrego. Not much you can do when that happens but replace the coach.
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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1035 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:38 pm

LofJ wrote:It was idiotic of us to fire Borrego in the first place. I don't care that we got blown out in the play-in game back to back. I am almost 100% sure that was a MJ decision.


Borrego built a program from scratch and was just coming into his own.

The players missed good shots in the Atlanta game. He gave them a chance to win. The IQ was very low but he had them making quicker decisions. Look what happened to players when they left his system (McDaniels, Graham). Look what happened to the shooting efficiency of Miles, PJ & Terry after Borrego left. Monk is an exception, but even Monk performed well in his last year with JB, still recovering from Clifford/MCW.

Cavs are making a good hire here.

I suspect Kenny Atkinson wouldn't be any better here. We just trashed everything he built over a very small sample of 2 games.

We are still reeling from it, on top of the injuries.
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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1036 » by luciano-davidwesley » Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:43 pm

LofJ wrote:It was idiotic of us to fire Borrego in the first place. I don't care that we got blown out in the play-in game back to back. I am almost 100% sure that was a MJ decision.

Borrego couldn't get them even trying on defense or playing with any resilience. The offense flowed OK I guess though. There's no need to rewrite history.

The only mistake we made was getting **** on by Kenny Atkinson and then taking the worst plan B possible.
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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1037 » by fatlever » Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:29 pm

But the defense looked even worse under clif

Jb got a raw deal

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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1038 » by luciano-davidwesley » Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:09 am

fatlever wrote:But the defense looked even worse under clif

Jb got a raw deal

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I disagree he got a raw deal. Nothing was changing, we'd reached a plateau under Borrego.

The defense was the same under Clifford, not worse.
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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1039 » by wilson115 » Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:09 am

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wilson115 wrote:But is it replicable? Any team can fill out a roster with known quantities like an Al or a Jrue, but look what they were saying about this punk:

Spoiler:
The Celtics selected California freshman Jaylen Brown with the No. 3 overall pick.

Brown, a 6-foot-7 forward, joins the Celtics as the first of the team's three first-round picks in this year's draft. The pick was met with a less-than-enthusiastic reaction at Boston's draft party at TD Garden, where many in the crowd booed the pick, then booed again when Celtics owner Wyc Grousbeck came out of the war room to address the fans.

"Fourteen years, that's probably the worst [reaction] I've gotten," Grousbeck said.

https://www.espn.ph/nba/draft2016/story/_/id/16458663/2016-nba-draft-boston-celtics-select-jaylen-brown-no-3-overall-pick

The Boston Celtics, maybe more than any team in the league, embrace analytics. Yet team decision-makers often remind us that you can't make decisions based on numbers alone. There's a balance to be found between what your eyes tell you and what the numbers suggest.

That is why California forward Jaylen Brown is one of the more fascinating players in this year's draft. If the Celtics are interested in Brown with the No. 3 pick, the team will be forced to essentially choose a side of the fence. The eyeball test with Brown shows a 19-year-old with intriguing raw athleticism, while multiple computer models suggest Brown will struggle to make an impact at the next level.

https://www.espn.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4723335/not-the-model-choice-would-celtics-roll-dice-with-jaylen-brown


Not that the boos weren't uninformed and ridiculous, but those fans weren't booing the selection of Jaylen Brown; they were booing not selecting Kris Dunn who was regionally popular because he played at Providence.

By the way, on another subject, every single thing said about Charles Lee's time in Boston has been glowing.

That was part of it, but even pro writers called the pick a surprise at the time. Point is, dumb luck (like getting Tatum and Brown in successive drafts) played a role in the success Boston is enjoying now so have to ask if it's repeatable. But maybe someone like Lee helps.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2648081-jaylen-brown-to-celtics-twitter-reacts-as-sf-is-selected-in-2016-nba-draft
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Re: Around the NBA 12 

Post#1040 » by GiggitySmalls » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:22 am

fatlever wrote:But the defense looked even worse under clif

Jb got a raw deal

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I'll never forget the disgust I felt when we rehired Clifford. In the past decade, the 2 moves that had me the most disgusted were rehire cliff and drafting frank kaminsky. Obviously, we have had more problems than just those 2, but those 2 made my blood boil. Mix that in with the batum situation and Gordon hayward. We have literally **** ourselves in the foot on so many occasions. Ahh another big blunder was drafting bouknight and Kai Jones. Neither did anything. I'm gonna stop now because I'm getting sad just remembering this stuff.

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