2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[UnbelievablyRAW]

In mocks, Rob Dillingham is currently 10th on tankathon, 15th on the ringer and 24th on nbadraft.net.

That's wild for a freshman who had shooting splits of 48/44/80. I don't care how bad he is defensively or how small he is, he has an an elite offensive skillset and in a weak draft like this, you take him and run. He's a guy I'd trade up for if he slides out of the top 8 or 9.

Just hate the size because he can only play the 1. Id make an attempt to move up if Topic falls to mid teens

[UnbelievablyRAW]

The more I see Kyshawn George the more I’m intrigued. The size and shooting with the defense would look good in lineups with Barnes.

A lineup with Barnes/Dick/George/Kelly/Poeltl lineup might be cool to put out. No one shorter than 6’8 as well.

If we do take Bub at 19, subbing him or IQ for Kelly would add more on all creation too.

Ideally Smith falls to 31 though

[BoyzNTheHood]

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[Bull-E]

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With the ongoing news of guys potentially jumping high on the board and potentially into the lottery (Ware, Carrington, Holmes, etc.) I'd be even more inclined to just stand pat and see what prospect lands on our lap at 19 and even 31. It seems there will be a lot of fallers, just got to pick off the right one.

[C_Money]

Ware sucks so thats okay.

[grant101]

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With the ongoing news of guys potentially jumping high on the board and potentially into the lottery (Ware, Carrington, Holmes, etc.) I'd be even more inclined to just stand pat and see what prospect lands on our lap at 19 and even 31. It seems there will be a lot of fallers, just got to pick off the right one.

I'm with you. I think teams ahead of us are running a real risk of overthinking things, so real talent has a chance to fall on draft night (e.g., I see scenarios where one or more of Holland, Collier, Topic, Dillingham, or McCain fall). The only concern is whether our front office does the same. They've been known to be a capitalize on this phenomenon (e.g. OG), but have also completely overthought things as well. Sometimes that works (e.g. Pascal, Barnes), sometimes it doesn't (e.g., Bruno, Deandre Daniels, picking Dewan Hernandez instead of Lu Dort). Fingers crossed.

[TimeForChange]

New Wasserman mock.

19 - Kyshawn George
31 - Bobi Klintman

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10124239-2024-nba-mock-draft-top-5-shakeup-plus-full-2-round-predictions-with-2-weeks-to-go

[youreachiteach]

Hate that mock...I can see why we need to trade up.

[CazOnReal]

Bobi is fine for 31. Decent wing prospect but overall not super exciting.

Kyshaun at 19 is a strettttttccchhhhhhh. I don't hate drafting him but at that stage you might as well just trade down to the Knicks at 24 and 25 since he'll probably be available then.

[ForeverTFC]

New Wasserman mock.

19 - Kyshawn George
31 - Bobi Klintman

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10124239-2024-nba-mock-draft-top-5-shakeup-plus-full-2-round-predictions-with-2-weeks-to-go

Rival teams say No. 3 is for sale. There isn't much room on the Houston Rockets' roster for another young project, and the team plans to exit the rebuilding stage for a run up the standings. Adding another veteran or even a future pick in a perceived better draft may sound more appealing to Houston than No. 3 in 2024.

We're also hearing some reluctance from rival teams about giving up assets to move up that high, when the difference between No. 3 and late-lottery feels minimal.

[CazOnReal]

Considering how much money the 3rd overall pick is making, I'm not surprised teams aren't lining up to give up significant assets for it.

I forget who said it but if the 5th pick is getting you a 4th or 5th best starter on a team, the 3rd pick probably isn't getting you much better than that.

[youreachiteach]

How about J'Sean Tate and Jock Landale and the # 3 for Bruce Brown, 19, and 31?

[MessiahUjiri]

How about J'Sean Tate and Jock Landale and the # 3 for Bruce Brown, 19, and 31?

That’s terrible for the Rockets. I think they’d prefer to trade with OKC to drop back to #12 + ‘25 1st + Giddey.

Then OKC flips #3 + a bunch of 1sts for Mikal Bridges.

[PhilBlackson]

Unless Sarr by some fluke fell to 3, I don't even think it would be that big of a deal to get up to 3 tbh, I rather pay slightly less to get MEM pick and likely be able to still retain a pick.

[OakleyDokely]

Holland: 6'6.50 without shoes, 6'10.75 wingspan, 196.8 lbs, 18 years old (19 in July)
Buzelis: 6'8.75 without shoes, 6'10.00 wingspan, 197.0 lbs, 19 years old (20 in Dec)

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Buzelis: 30.9 MIN, 14.1 PPG, 6.6 REB, 1.9 AST, 1.9 BLK, 0.9 STL, .455 FG, .261 3PT (3.4 ATT), .696 FT (2.0 ATT), .553 TS, 21.4 USG
Holland: 31.9 MIN, 19.5 PPG, 6.7 REB, 2.9 AST, 0.9 BLK, 2.3 STL, .460 FG, .240 3PT (3.3 ATT), .728 FT (3.9 ATT), .560 TS, 28.0 USG

[PhilBlackson]

How about J'Sean Tate and Jock Landale and the # 3 for Bruce Brown, 19, and 31?

That’s terrible for the Rockets. I think they’d prefer to trade with OKC to drop back to #12 + ‘25 1st + Giddey.

Then OKC flips #3 + a bunch of 1sts for Mikal Bridges.

I would think POR packaging their picks would do it.

I don't think Giddey makes much sense when Amen is basically a hyper athletic version of him and they're gonna want to continue to create space for Sengun.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Jonathan Mogbo's upside is really intriguing, if he can hit the 3 ball at a 32% rate like Draymond has done over his career he could be like a Draymond lite w/ less competency on D. The thing is that he initiated as a point forward quite a bit at San Fran and since Scottie is already that guy here you really don't get enough value out of Mogbo as a starter next to Scottie on offense since he would become a secondary playmaker. His whole game is playmaking, rebounding and defending. But couldn't hurt to have him as he really looks like an NBA player, smart and great physical profile and motor. Energy guys with excellent facilitating and court awareness don't grow on trees and there are some interesting outcomes with Mogbo.

We were one of the worst rebounding teams in the league so he fills a need on that alone. He also gives us a lob threat which this team also lacks. The passing ability is very intriguing, he actually makes some great reads and it wasn't a function of just having the ball in his hands a lot. Either way, worrying about fit doesn't make too much sense when this team is lacking badly in talent.

I'm not worried about fit, I'm leaning towards him being my #1 candidate at 19. I watched his entire footage reel yesterday and he's a very serious basketball talent. If his 3 point shot comes around he has nuclear upside for your average 22 year old prospect. Some of the things he does on the court get me legitimately excited.

I'm just saying his production as a playmaker next to Scottie will take a dip but his excellent ball-movement is still a great thing to have even if he's initiating less. Plus he could provide huge value in the rotation.

[OAKLEY_2]

As I said, his mock is not close.
The analyst isn't as good as some others I read online.

Ya mean like Thorpe? Sam Vecinie is very fan-like but he is one of the few that explains who works with Barnes and who doesn't.

No, but the scouting report isn't right to me.
For example, he mentioned Salaum is a good defender and can switch, but from eye test and other reports, he is not quick enough to guard guards, also over rotating and ended by being beat.

This is an 18 year old foreign pro prospect. Kevin O'Connor of the Ringer said about Salaun:

MINUSES

Needs to become a more fundamental on-ball defender to reach his full potential. He falls out of position and gets crossed up way too often.

Lacks shooting ability off the dribble. His handle is loose. He often looks the part, generating space with side-steps and stepbacks, but he often misses horribly with bricks off the backboard.

Until this year, he’s never been a good shooter. And there are some worrisome trends that his touch isn’t what it seems: He lacks a reliable floater, struggles to convert touch layups, and still shoots only about 70 percent from the line.

Sloppy passer who regularly throws the ball straight to defenders. He also has a tendency to rush simple plays and misread opponents.

In all of the chatter commentary there is a full expectation he could be drafted 7-12 so there are clear attributes teams like and then they project upside as we are talking 18 years old. Kid was born in 2005. I cannot tell much about him or Ware and prioritizing a big seems like a fool's errand save for Edey. I do know Filipowski looks worse athletically than Drew Timme and feel bad drawing attention to Timme's skillset for comparison. Vecenie has suggested Filipowski as Scottie compatible and sorry that's just insane. Give me Mogbo any day. Reach away.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

I feel like Poeltl could be of use in OKC but they might just sign Hartenstein or draft a C

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Ya mean like Thorpe? Sam Vecinie is very fan-like but he is one of the few that explains who works with Barnes and who doesn't.

No, but the scouting report isn't right to me.
For example, he mentioned Salaum is a good defender and can switch, but from eye test and other reports, he is not quick enough to guard guards, also over rotating and ended by being beat.

This is an 18 year old foreign pro prospect. Kevin O'Connor of the Ringer said about Salaun:

MINUSES

Needs to become a more fundamental on-ball defender to reach his full potential. He falls out of position and gets crossed up way too often.

Lacks shooting ability off the dribble. His handle is loose. He often looks the part, generating space with side-steps and stepbacks, but he often misses horribly with bricks off the backboard.

Until this year, he’s never been a good shooter. And there are some worrisome trends that his touch isn’t what it seems: He lacks a reliable floater, struggles to convert touch layups, and still shoots only about 70 percent from the line.

Sloppy passer who regularly throws the ball straight to defenders. He also has a tendency to rush simple plays and misread opponents.

In all of the chatter commentary there is a full expectation he could be drafted 7-12 so there are clear attributes teams like and then they project upside as we are talking 18 years old. Kid was born in 2005. I cannot tell much about him or Ware and prioritizing a big seems like a fool's errand save for Edey. I do know Filipowski looks worse athletically than Drew Timme and feel bad drawing attention to Timme's skillset for comparison. Vecenie has suggested Filipowski as Scottie compatible and sorry that's just insane. Give me Mogbo any day. Reach away.

It's a close call for me right now between Flip and Mogbo. Going to have to wait for some more information and footage about Mogbo but Mogbo legit might be a top 10 player from this draft when all is said and done. He checks too many boxes, maybe his FT% is an indicator there is hope for his shot.