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Re: Improvements for Next Year 

Post#21 » by GermanFan120 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:21 pm

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Mavrelous wrote:Mavs need another scorer, either off the bench or a symbolic starter who primarily staggers with Lukai...


If Portland is willing to part with Jerami Grant and that huge contract of his, THJ has an expiring deal that clears Grant off their books in one move.

Grant is capable of scoring on his own and spotting up for 3s. Good height and very mobile at 6'9.



This would be the jackpot. I will do this in a heartbeat.
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Post#22 » by GermanFan120 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:25 pm

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arkuo wrote:The problem with Dallas is not scoring related. Jrue Holiday had a career game in game 2. Brown and Tatum had 30 a piece in game 3. It's on the defensive side of things. They can't stop anybody. Lavine won't solve their defensive woes but can score 20 to 30 himself. It doesn't address the main problem though.

I remembered the tipping point when Dirk had Tyson and Marion to cover for his weakness. That took Dallas to another level. Im afraid Luka needs that type of being "hidden" on defense. DJJ + Thybulle + Washington would have addressed that IMO. But Thybulle wasnt meant to be and expecting DJJ to step up for the finals was too tall an order to ask for a guy earning the minimum.

The finals weer failure in scoring, you can't really hold the Celtics to lower than this...


So I was reading stuff and it occurred to me that Malik Monk is a free agent this summer. Instead of Lavine who you really need to make a starting spot for, then maybe Monk off the bench would work better?

Monk with those 27 god damn THJ minutes would have at least produced one point.



I think Monk will 100% stay in Sactown, however it would be amazing to have him, he will be the JET 2.0 / Nick Van Exel 2.0 for us.
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Re: Improvements for Next Year 

Post#23 » by GermanFan120 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:25 pm

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arkuo wrote:The problem with Dallas is not scoring related. Jrue Holiday had a career game in game 2. Brown and Tatum had 30 a piece in game 3. It's on the defensive side of things. They can't stop anybody. Lavine won't solve their defensive woes but can score 20 to 30 himself. It doesn't address the main problem though.

I remembered the tipping point when Dirk had Tyson and Marion to cover for his weakness. That took Dallas to another level. Im afraid Luka needs that type of being "hidden" on defense. DJJ + Thybulle + Washington would have addressed that IMO. But Thybulle wasnt meant to be and expecting DJJ to step up for the finals was too tall an order to ask for a guy earning the minimum.

The finals weer failure in scoring, you can't really hold the Celtics to lower than this...


Agree.

The defense was decent at the end of the day.

We can't score or create outside Luka&Kyrie but i don't want Lavine for sure.

We need an upgrade over DJJ, he played over his mind this season but he is still a role player and Boston leaved him wide open all series.



We need an upgrade over DJJ, yes. But we need to keep DJJ as well for depth and insurance.
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Post#24 » by Astaluego » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:58 pm

GermanFan120 wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Mavs need another scorer, either off the bench or a symbolic starter who primarily staggers with Lukai...


If Portland is willing to part with Jerami Grant and that huge contract of his, THJ has an expiring deal that clears Grant off their books in one move.

Grant is capable of scoring on his own and spotting up for 3s. Good height and very mobile at 6'9.



This would be the jackpot. I will do this in a heartbeat.

I'm all for getting J.Grant, but we'll still need another playmaker.
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Post#25 » by BliscoSantos » Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:18 pm

I kind of like Schroeder as a backup PG...would need to move Maxi,cause they don't get along...but that's a sacrifice I'd gladly make
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Post#26 » by joesha1698 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:25 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:I kind of like Schroeder as a backup PG...would need to move Maxi,cause they don't get along...but that's a sacrifice I'd gladly make



I like his grit as well. The Mavs needs to get a little more gritter. I have a feeling Exum will be back on his last year.
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Post#27 » by Archx » Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:47 pm

It will be incredibly hard to improve the team with minimal assets and no draft capital.

Priority replacements are THJ, Maxi and maybe even Green. Nico will have a tough job finding anything, specially with DJJ's (probably) big contract extension.
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Post#28 » by GermanFan120 » Fri Jun 14, 2024 3:22 am

Archx wrote:It will be incredibly hard to improve the team with minimal assets and no draft capital.

Priority replacements are THJ, Maxi and maybe even Green. Nico will have a tough job finding anything, specially with DJJ's (probably) big contract extension.



I disagree, lots of team would want THJ's expiring contract + Green's youth.
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Post#29 » by arkuo » Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:29 am

Archx wrote:It will be incredibly hard to improve the team with minimal assets and no draft capital.

Priority replacements are THJ, Maxi and maybe even Green. Nico will have a tough job finding anything, specially with DJJ's (probably) big contract extension.



Hope Nico can find a trade partner for THJ's expiring. Nico has shown he's not shy in trading away a draft pick who's probably still in 7th grade today. The mentality is F them picks. Luka and Kyrie are ready to win now. So with that, I think Nico will just build the team further. Its in the right direction. Be it for Miles Bridges, Jerami Grant or another shot at Mattise Thybulle. It's just incremental pieces, and if a big deal comes along, I think you even let go of Hardy and Omax. For the right deal.
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Post#30 » by Teffer10 » Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:18 am

GermanFan120 wrote:
Archx wrote:It will be incredibly hard to improve the team with minimal assets and no draft capital.

Priority replacements are THJ, Maxi and maybe even Green. Nico will have a tough job finding anything, specially with DJJ's (probably) big contract extension.



I disagree, lots of team would want THJ's expiring contract + Green's youth.

Green's contract nullifies any positives from THJ's expiring.
We'd be better off trading THJ alone with some 2nd rounders.
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Post#31 » by Teffer10 » Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:23 am

Nico should trade for a high 2nd rounder and take Bronny.
Then sign daddy to MLE.
Lebron likes Luka, Kyrie and Cuban.
Would get to play with son.
Fills a position of desperate need.
And has a legit shot at another ring.

Honestly I dont think him ending up on the Mavs is a far fetched idea.
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Post#32 » by Archx » Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:56 am

GermanFan120 wrote:
Archx wrote:It will be incredibly hard to improve the team with minimal assets and no draft capital.

Priority replacements are THJ, Maxi and maybe even Green. Nico will have a tough job finding anything, specially with DJJ's (probably) big contract extension.



I disagree, lots of team would want THJ's expiring contract + Green's youth.


Well in general you're right. Trading ANY player is not hard, in that regard, probably any of us here would be able to do it. But problem is, finding the RIGHT player or the right deal coming back to you.

THJ+Green could probably net a good result but they also absolutely need to replace Maxi, so that means getting back another PJ type of player without having draft capital. If Hardy can make a huge step next year then Mavs could in theory focus only on wings but i'm not sure. He has shown flashes in these playoffs but still feels incredibly raw to take the next step.

Mavs core is basically set for years. Luka, Gaff, PJ, Lively, DJJ?, then huge question is Kyrie and how fast will he regress. If that goes faster than expected, then searching for that Nr2 option will be even harder. Mavs future looks great but on the other hand also very scary.
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Post#33 » by arkuo » Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:54 am

Archx wrote:
GermanFan120 wrote:
Archx wrote:It will be incredibly hard to improve the team with minimal assets and no draft capital.

Priority replacements are THJ, Maxi and maybe even Green. Nico will have a tough job finding anything, specially with DJJ's (probably) big contract extension.



I disagree, lots of team would want THJ's expiring contract + Green's youth.


Well in general you're right. Trading ANY player is not hard, in that regard, probably any of us here would be able to do it. But problem is, finding the RIGHT player or the right deal coming back to you.

THJ+Green could probably net a good result but they also absolutely need to replace Maxi, so that means getting back another PJ type of player without having draft capital. If Hardy can make a huge step next year then Mavs could in theory focus only on wings but i'm not sure. He has shown flashes in these playoffs but still feels incredibly raw to take the next step.

Mavs core is basically set for years. Luka, Gaff, PJ, Lively, DJJ?, then huge question is Kyrie and how fast will he regress. If that goes faster than expected, then searching for that Nr2 option will be even harder. Mavs future looks great but on the other hand also very scary.



Actually the time to strike is now. And let's hope there's not a team out there willing to overpay Lively or Gafford. All it takes is one desperate team to throw feelers for a big contract and Dallas would be forced to match. So ideally while he's on a rookie deal and the other guys are on smaller contracts, Nico can bring someone as early as next season.
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Post#34 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:14 pm

arkuo wrote:
Archx wrote:
GermanFan120 wrote:

I disagree, lots of team would want THJ's expiring contract + Green's youth.


Well in general you're right. Trading ANY player is not hard, in that regard, probably any of us here would be able to do it. But problem is, finding the RIGHT player or the right deal coming back to you.

THJ+Green could probably net a good result but they also absolutely need to replace Maxi, so that means getting back another PJ type of player without having draft capital. If Hardy can make a huge step next year then Mavs could in theory focus only on wings but i'm not sure. He has shown flashes in these playoffs but still feels incredibly raw to take the next step.

Mavs core is basically set for years. Luka, Gaff, PJ, Lively, DJJ?, then huge question is Kyrie and how fast will he regress. If that goes faster than expected, then searching for that Nr2 option will be even harder. Mavs future looks great but on the other hand also very scary.



Actually the time to strike is now. And let's hope there's not a team out there willing to overpay Lively or Gafford. All it takes is one desperate team to throw feelers for a big contract and Dallas would be forced to match. So ideally while he's on a rookie deal and the other guys are on smaller contracts, Nico can bring someone as early as next season.


Totally agree.

The future is not sure, nobody know what will happen next years.

A lot of good young teams have failed miserably in the past.

Our time is now and we have already wasted 1 NBA Finals.

So Nico have to do some trades in OF absolutely.
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Post#35 » by GermanFan120 » Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:50 pm

Teffer10 wrote:Nico should trade for a high 2nd rounder and take Bronny.
Then sign daddy to MLE.
Lebron likes Luka, Kyrie and Cuban.
Would get to play with son.
Fills a position of desperate need.
And has a legit shot at another ring.

Honestly I dont think him ending up on the Mavs is a far fetched idea.



Ah... Huge no thanks. We don't want any Bron drama poo poo.
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Post#36 » by Archx » Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:56 pm

arkuo wrote:So ideally while he's on a rookie deal and the other guys are on smaller contracts, Nico can bring someone as early as next season.


That would be the best version, yes. They fumbled the ball when Doncic was still on rookie contract. Let's see if they learned anything. But like i said, Nico doesn't have a lot to work with, so it will be interesting to watch how he'll navigate the mine field.

Good thing is, Cuban is not in his ear anymore :lol:
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Post#37 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:16 pm

Archx wrote:
arkuo wrote:So ideally while he's on a rookie deal and the other guys are on smaller contracts, Nico can bring someone as early as next season.


That would be the best version, yes. They fumbled the ball when Doncic was still on rookie contract. Let's see if they learned anything. But like i said, Nico doesn't have a lot to work with, so it will be interesting to watch how he'll navigate the mine field.

Good thing is, Cuban is not in his ear anymore :lol:


Yes... That time Cuban ride the bus and his target was stay cheap. Stupid moron Cube.
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Post#38 » by Teffer10 » Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:51 pm

Mavs might have to consider compromising Gafford in a trade to improve our situation next season.
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Post#39 » by tleikheen » Fri Jun 14, 2024 6:21 pm

At this point ,its on Jason Kidd ....... he avoided getting fired when the calls were loudest . He thinks he's a great coach and he's not . He sticks to rotations with his favorites to the detriment of the team.
He resisted playing the 2 Center lineup by continously playing Kleber as the Center . He resisted playing Exum when the 3 guard lineup helped out Luka and Kyrie . He says the Mavs won't win a championship without THJ and he sticks with them .
It's been clear Kidd's stationary offense makes Boston look like a super defense .Any teams defense can look better than it is when there's no ball movement or player movement.

But in the NBA Finals the lights shine brightest on good play and "Bad decisions" ...... Luka needs to stop playing 1 against 5 and show he can lead his offense past double digit scores. Kidd needs to stop panicking ,he made bad choices.

Exum ,Hardy and Lively should be the only guys off the bench tonight and you don't need a 3rd scorer when you have Gaff and Lively as the 3rd scorer already . Use them !
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Post#40 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Jun 14, 2024 7:12 pm

Teffer10 wrote:Mavs might have to consider compromising Gafford in a trade to improve our situation next season.


Trade Gafford = Maxi and Powell at the C.

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