You are the GM of the Magic. What would you do this offseason?

[anothermagicfan]

Id let go of Chuma, Ingles, Fultz, Harris. Possibly Mo as well if a better deal could be worked out. Goga is brought back with a new contract but after everything else is done.

Sign DeAngelo Russell. Last couple of years he's been around 20 mil. Id rather give him 25 per and have a guy that can play point, hit 3s, get assists and consistently give you 20 points a game than pay 20 per for monk or tyus. I don't think his attitude will be bad with this group and coach Mosley. He might just embrace it here and thrive.

Next I want Ware in the draft. Don't care if it's at #18 or if we have to give a little to move up or maybe get a little to move down. I don't think hartenstein adds much value for the price. Claxton might be really good at a couple of things but he's so limited on offense and is terrible at the free throw line. He'd become a liability on the floor at the end of close games. Teams would deploy the hack a Shaq treatment on him. Until he develops an offensive game or at the very least improves from the free throw line he's not worth his suggested asking price. Id rather gamble on Ware.

Next move or possibly at the draft as well is a trade centered around Brandon Ingram for WCJ/Cole/and 2 firsts. Specifically the drafts that we own 2 first round picks. Id let the Pelicans have the better of each years pick. If they want more it would have to be seconds or there option for a pick swap some other year.

That leaves us with a starting 5 of
DeAngelo/Suggs/Ingram/Franz/PB
with a bench of
AB/Jett/Caleb/JI/Mo/Ware/Goga

I know lots will say PB isn't a center and I'd agree. But this would be the 5 best players starting and 4 of the bench mob can play center so PB would slide to the 4 for most of the game. If the starting lineup doesn't work out we'd eventually find the right one. My guess is there would be enough injuries to experiment naturally without crapping on someone and sending them to the bench.

My reasoning for adding DeAngelo Russell and Brandon Ingram is they are both guys that can be the first or second option on most teams and they would allow for the offense to continue to flow. Too many games last year if PB/Franz weren't in we got nothing going on and some games that PB/Franz didn't get going and we had nobody else to really step up on the offense. Suggs is a 3rd option in the sense that he's the 3rd best player because of his defensive impact, but he doesn't always chip in getting points. We need scorers. We need experienced scorers, but not close to retirement.

If it doesn't work out with DeAngelo or Ingram I believe there's a much better chance of those 2 guys retaining trade value and matching salaries to retool down the road.

[tiderulz]

Id let go of Chuma, Ingles, Fultz, Harris. Possibly Mo as well if a better deal could be worked out. Goga is brought back with a new contract but after everything else is done.

Sign DeAngelo Russell. Last couple of years he's been around 20 mil. Id rather give him 25 per and have a guy that can play point, hit 3s, get assists and consistently give you 20 points a game than pay 20 per for monk or tyus. I don't think his attitude will be bad with this group and coach Mosley. He might just embrace it here and thrive.

Next I want Ware in the draft. Don't care if it's at #18 or if we have to give a little to move up or maybe get a little to move down. I don't think hartenstein adds much value for the price. Claxton might be really good at a couple of things but he's so limited on offense and is terrible at the free throw line. He'd become a liability on the floor at the end of close games. Teams would deploy the hack a Shaq treatment on him. Until he develops an offensive game or at the very least improves from the free throw line he's not worth his suggested asking price. Id rather gamble on Ware.

Next move or possibly at the draft as well is a trade centered around Brandon Ingram for WCJ/Cole/and 2 firsts. Specifically the drafts that we own 2 first round picks. Id let the Pelicans have the better of each years pick. If they want more it would have to be seconds or there option for a pick swap some other year.

That leaves us with a starting 5 of
DeAngelo/Suggs/Ingram/Franz/PB
with a bench of
AB/Jett/Caleb/JI/Mo/Ware/Goga

I know lots will say PB isn't a center and I'd agree. But this would be the 5 best players starting and 4 of the bench mob can play center so PB would slide to the 4 for most of the game. If the starting lineup doesn't work out we'd eventually find the right one. My guess is there would be enough injuries to experiment naturally without crapping on someone and sending them to the bench.

My reasoning for adding DeAngelo Russell and Brandon Ingram is they are both guys that can be the first or second option on most teams and they would allow for the offense to continue to flow. Too many games last year if PB/Franz weren't in we got nothing going on and some games that PB/Franz didn't get going and we had nobody else to really step up on the offense. Suggs is a 3rd option in the sense that he's the 3rd best player because of his defensive impact, but he doesn't always chip in getting points. We need scorers. We need experienced scorers, but not close to retirement.

If it doesn't work out with DeAngelo or Ingram I believe there's a much better chance of those 2 guys retaining trade value and matching salaries to retool down the road.

that isnt going to do it. would you take two picks in the 20's, Mitchell Robinson and Miles McBride for Paolo? thats about what that offer would be

[mattdelray1220]

- I would trade 3 first rounders for CJ McCollum. Take on his contract which lets NOP resign Ingram, Let Hawkins, Murphy, Daniels run the show with Zion and Ingram. Plus this gives them tons of picks to build with.

- Extend Suggs 4years/90mil

- Resign Gary 1+1 12mil/24mil

- Let Ingles go

- Let Chuma go

- offer Fultz opportunity to be 3rd PG but I bet he looks elsewhere to get playing time. Ultimately goes home to Washington or signs with Spurs on a great deal.

- Offer Goga 3 year/15 - he moves on to guaranteed playing time.

- sign Marcus Morris 1yr/4mil
- sign Andre Drummond 1yr/4mil

CJ, Black
Suggs, Cole, Caleb
Franz, Harris, Jett
PB, JI, Morris
WCJ, Moe, Drummond/Goga

This is what I would do. I would prefer DJM over CJM but I do not think the hawks will do it. The team above keeps our identity while allowing PB and Franz to still run the show with a legit "table setter". It also gives immediate playing time to AB and has Jett/Caleb in the wings in case a guard or forward gets hurt.

[SOUL]

Jones is fine as a backup, but you cannot be watching these playoffs and think that having anybody in your starting lineup you can abuse over and over again on switches is good in the modern NBA. Doncic is getting targeted, FFS, and he's an MVP candidate lol.

I think Black is vital to the future PG spot or at least backup PG/SF spot. Cole seems to be the odd-man out if you want to bring in Jones as a backup PG.

I'd overpay George for a two-year thing with team option on the 3rd. I like Monk. Simons I wouldn't give that many assets for.

If Hornets go after Castle or someone like that, I would seriously take a look at trading our pick for Micic as a backup and moving Cole. If not, go backup wing/C with the draft pick.

WCJ/Isaac is fine for now but will need to address that spot in the next few years. Claxton is fine, but until Paolo and Franz improve as shooters, that frontcourt is not ideal offense wise either.

[anothermagicfan]

Id let go of Chuma, Ingles, Fultz, Harris. Possibly Mo as well if a better deal could be worked out. Goga is brought back with a new contract but after everything else is done.

Sign DeAngelo Russell. Last couple of years he's been around 20 mil. Id rather give him 25 per and have a guy that can play point, hit 3s, get assists and consistently give you 20 points a game than pay 20 per for monk or tyus. I don't think his attitude will be bad with this group and coach Mosley. He might just embrace it here and thrive.

Next I want Ware in the draft. Don't care if it's at #18 or if we have to give a little to move up or maybe get a little to move down. I don't think hartenstein adds much value for the price. Claxton might be really good at a couple of things but he's so limited on offense and is terrible at the free throw line. He'd become a liability on the floor at the end of close games. Teams would deploy the hack a Shaq treatment on him. Until he develops an offensive game or at the very least improves from the free throw line he's not worth his suggested asking price. Id rather gamble on Ware.

Next move or possibly at the draft as well is a trade centered around Brandon Ingram for WCJ/Cole/and 2 firsts. Specifically the drafts that we own 2 first round picks. Id let the Pelicans have the better of each years pick. If they want more it would have to be seconds or there option for a pick swap some other year.

That leaves us with a starting 5 of
DeAngelo/Suggs/Ingram/Franz/PB
with a bench of
AB/Jett/Caleb/JI/Mo/Ware/Goga

I know lots will say PB isn't a center and I'd agree. But this would be the 5 best players starting and 4 of the bench mob can play center so PB would slide to the 4 for most of the game. If the starting lineup doesn't work out we'd eventually find the right one. My guess is there would be enough injuries to experiment naturally without crapping on someone and sending them to the bench.

My reasoning for adding DeAngelo Russell and Brandon Ingram is they are both guys that can be the first or second option on most teams and they would allow for the offense to continue to flow. Too many games last year if PB/Franz weren't in we got nothing going on and some games that PB/Franz didn't get going and we had nobody else to really step up on the offense. Suggs is a 3rd option in the sense that he's the 3rd best player because of his defensive impact, but he doesn't always chip in getting points. We need scorers. We need experienced scorers, but not close to retirement.

If it doesn't work out with DeAngelo or Ingram I believe there's a much better chance of those 2 guys retaining trade value and matching salaries to retool down the road.

that isnt going to do it. would you take two picks in the 20's, Mitchell Robinson and Miles McBride for Paolo? thats about what that offer would be

They're age/trajectory/contract status make them incomparable in this instance. I get what you're saying though. You think it'd take a lot more to get Ingram? He's on the final year of his contract and let's face it the pelicans haven't been a force to reckon with during the Zion/Ingram/CJ years although have had flashes.

[VFX]

Jones is fine as a backup, but you cannot be watching these playoffs and think that having anybody in your starting lineup you can abuse over and over again on switches is good in the modern NBA. Doncic is getting targeted, FFS, and he's an MVP candidate lol.

I think Black is vital to the future PG spot or at least backup PG/SF spot. Cole seems to be the odd-man out if you want to bring in Jones as a backup PG.

I'd overpay George for a two-year thing with team option on the 3rd. I like Monk. Simons I wouldn't give that many assets for.

If Hornets go after Castle or someone like that, I would seriously take a look at trading our pick for Micic as a backup and moving Cole. If not, go backup wing/C with the draft pick.

WCJ/Isaac is fine for now but will need to address that spot in the next few years. Claxton is fine, but until Paolo and Franz improve as shooters, that frontcourt is not ideal offense wise either.

Black is absolutely vital for Orlando moving forward. More as a point guard than anything else. This offseason won’t change that unless they decide to go after someone like DM.

Tyus Jones would be someone that you can interchange with AB until he figures out the offensive side of the court. He is a stopgap in keeping an offense moving so Paolo doesn’t have to pretend to be a point forward. Orlando’s defense was already good without AB playing a single minute in the second half of the last season. The offense was bad and has been for a decade.

[Residual-Heat]

Black can really unlock something special. Whether he's enough to be a starter at PG doesnt just depend on him, but also Paolo, Franz and Suggs' development.

[BadMofoPimp]

The team already has their future stars in Suggs, Paolo and Franz. They just need high level complementary players. I say go all in for Murray as he is can pass, defend and score. He would be integral for this team development to the next level. I would go as far as:

3 1sts and Jett or 2 1sts, WCJ and Jett. Worst case would be 2 1sts, Jett and Black.

If the Magic attained Murray, then I would look at Claxton and give him upto $22 mil per. If WCJ is traded, definitely target another Center to pair with Mo and resign Goga like Drummond who could be had for cheap. See if Gary Harrisaccepts a similar contract to what he already had if not, then target similar players to replace Ingles and Chuma whom they should let go.

If the price too high for these players or teams asking for too much, then just resign and/or replace players like Ingles with younger developing talent and target next offseason.

In no way would I go all out for aging players, ever. If it comes to that, I would rather run it back with this team plus minor upgrades.

[Bakomagic]

Improve team for 2024 while keeping 2025 cap space to go after Jalen Brunson, Jamal Murray, Donovan Mitchell, Derrick White.

Convince Suggs/Franz to wait until next year to receive their mega extensions like Philly did with Maxey so we can use a max slot before re-signing them.

Magic Trade: Ingles/Cole Anthony/WCjr Pick #18 Receive Brogdon, Kennard and pick #14

Blazers trade:M Brogdon and pick #14 Receive Jingles/Cole #9

Grizzlies trade Kennard pick #9 Recieve WCjr & Pick #18

Draft BPA, Sign IHart for 4 years 60 Mill, play the season out….

Brogdon/AB/J. McCain (1st round)
Suggs/Kennard/Jett
Franz/Houstan
Paolo/JI/K.Love
IHart/MoW/A. Bona (2nd round)

Then go into a loaded draft (2025) with two 1st round picks and a loaded offseason with a max slot!


Go to conference finals then go after another star when Kennard, Brogdon, JI, Mow come off the books

[tiderulz]

The team already has their future stars in Suggs, Paolo and Franz. They just need high level complementary players. I say go all in for Murray as he is can pass, defend and score. He would be integral for this team development to the next level. I would go as far as:

3 1sts and Jett or 2 1sts, WCJ and Jett. Worst case would be 2 1sts, Jett and Black.

If the Magic attained Murray, then I would look at Claxton and give him upto $22 mil per. If WCJ is traded, definitely target another Center to pair with Mo and resign Goga like Drummond who could be had for cheap. See if Gary Harrisaccepts a similar contract to what he already had if not, then target similar players to replace Ingles and Chuma whom they should let go.

If the price too high for these players or teams asking for too much, then just resign and/or replace players like Ingles with younger developing talent and target next offseason.

In no way would I go all out for aging players, ever. If it comes to that, I would rather run it back with this team plus minor upgrades.

Atlanta might want to send Capela and get more cap room and he can play defensive center.

[BadMofoPimp]

The team already has their future stars in Suggs, Paolo and Franz. They just need high level complementary players. I say go all in for Murray as he is can pass, defend and score. He would be integral for this team development to the next level. I would go as far as:

3 1sts and Jett or 2 1sts, WCJ and Jett. Worst case would be 2 1sts, Jett and Black.

If the Magic attained Murray, then I would look at Claxton and give him upto $22 mil per. If WCJ is traded, definitely target another Center to pair with Mo and resign Goga like Drummond who could be had for cheap. See if Gary Harrisaccepts a similar contract to what he already had if not, then target similar players to replace Ingles and Chuma whom they should let go.

If the price too high for these players or teams asking for too much, then just resign and/or replace players like Ingles with younger developing talent and target next offseason.

In no way would I go all out for aging players, ever. If it comes to that, I would rather run it back with this team plus minor upgrades.

Atlanta might want to send Capela and get more cap room and he can play defensive center.

Team would be stacked then.

[drsd]

Renegotiate M-Wagner on three-years as an average of 12M per year.
Retain Isaac and release Ingles.

Trade Anthony, the 2024 FRP, and the Denver 2025 FRP in some sort of 3-team deal that results in Orlando gaining for Anfernee Simons.

Sign Lonnie Walker IV to a 2-year (team-option) 8M deal.

SIgn Gordon Hayward to a one year 4M contract.
SIgn Mac McClung to a one year vet-min contract.
SIgn Mike Muscala to a one year vet-min contract.



Introducing the 2024/25 NBA Champions: our Orlando Magic!

Suggs/Black/McClung
Simons/Walker/Howard
F-Wagner/Hayward/Houstan
Banchero/Isaac
Carter/M-Wagner/Muscala

[Skybox]

Renegotiate M-Wagner on three-years as an average of 12M per year.
Retain Isaac and release Ingles.

Trade Anthony, the 2024 FRP, and the Denver 2025 FRP in some sort of 3-team deal that results in Orlando gaining for Anfernee Simons.

Sign Lonnie Walker IV to a 2-year (team-option) 8M deal.

SIgn Gordon Hayward to a one year 4M contract.
SIgn Mac McClung to a one year vet-min contract.
SIgn Mike Muscala to a one year vet-min contract.



Introducing the 2024/25 NBA Champions: our Orlando Magic!

Suggs/Black/McClung
Simons/Walker/Howard
F-Wagner/Hayward/Houstan
Banchero/Isaac
Carter/M-Wagner/Muscala

Renegotiate a RAISE OF 50%???

I like the team but Mo is certainly not underpaid now

[tiderulz]

Renegotiate M-Wagner on three-years as an average of 12M per year.
Retain Isaac and release Ingles.

Trade Anthony, the 2024 FRP, and the Denver 2025 FRP in some sort of 3-team deal that results in Orlando gaining for Anfernee Simons.

Sign Lonnie Walker IV to a 2-year (team-option) 8M deal.

SIgn Gordon Hayward to a one year 4M contract.
SIgn Mac McClung to a one year vet-min contract.
SIgn Mike Muscala to a one year vet-min contract.



Introducing the 2024/25 NBA Champions: our Orlando Magic!

Suggs/Black/McClung
Simons/Walker/Howard
F-Wagner/Hayward/Houstan
Banchero/Isaac
Carter/M-Wagner/Muscala

Moe at $12 mil a year?

[eyriq]

Renegotiate M-Wagner on three-years as an average of 12M per year.
Retain Isaac and release Ingles.

Trade Anthony, the 2024 FRP, and the Denver 2025 FRP in some sort of 3-team deal that results in Orlando gaining for Anfernee Simons.

Sign Lonnie Walker IV to a 2-year (team-option) 8M deal.

SIgn Gordon Hayward to a one year 4M contract.
SIgn Mac McClung to a one year vet-min contract.
SIgn Mike Muscala to a one year vet-min contract.



Introducing the 2024/25 NBA Champions: our Orlando Magic!

Suggs/Black/McClung
Simons/Walker/Howard
F-Wagner/Hayward/Houstan
Banchero/Isaac
Carter/M-Wagner/Muscala

In the back of my head whenever people say they're going to release Moe for cap space & then bring him back at 8 million I'm like man, I think his market has increased. This raise is probably closer to what his actual market value is right now. I don't think we appreciate how good he was last season.

[zaymon]

Black/Suggs backcourt would be good if any or preferably both of them could run p&r.
If we look at Celtics, Howard gives me luxury Hauser vibes.
Jones could be a starter or luxury Pritchard. It all depends on contract but Tyus is much better than Pritchard.
I think in the end it all depends on Wagner/Banchero. We can juggle rest of the players as long as we have assets.

[jezzerinho]

Renegotiate M-Wagner on three-years as an average of 12M per year.
Retain Isaac and release Ingles.

Trade Anthony, the 2024 FRP, and the Denver 2025 FRP in some sort of 3-team deal that results in Orlando gaining for Anfernee Simons.

Sign Lonnie Walker IV to a 2-year (team-option) 8M deal.

SIgn Gordon Hayward to a one year 4M contract.
SIgn Mac McClung to a one year vet-min contract.
SIgn Mike Muscala to a one year vet-min contract.



Introducing the 2024/25 NBA Champions: our Orlando Magic!

Suggs/Black/McClung
Simons/Walker/Howard
F-Wagner/Hayward/Houstan
Banchero/Isaac
Carter/M-Wagner/Muscala

If Collin Sexton was swapped in for Simons, I wouldnt hate this outcome at all. To me, Sexton is a much better bet to fit in and produce the way we need a guard to.

Id probably pick up another pg in FA rather than McClung.

[VFX]

Black/Suggs backcourt would be good if any or preferably both of them could run p&r.
If we look at Celtics, Howard gives me luxury Hauser vibes.
Jones could be a starter or luxury Pritchard. It all depends on contract but Tyus is much better than Pritchard.
I think in the end it all depends on Wagner/Banchero. We can juggle rest of the players as long as we have assets.

The problem anyone should have with the Boston comparisons should be the outside shooting of our “star” duo. They don’t play the same way. Jett Howard cannot be a “luxury Hauser” as a role. He needs to become way more than that. Outside shooting needs to come from somewhere on this roster if it’s not primarily development from Paolo/Franz.

[zaymon]

Black/Suggs backcourt would be good if any or preferably both of them could run p&r.
If we look at Celtics, Howard gives me luxury Hauser vibes.
Jones could be a starter or luxury Pritchard. It all depends on contract but Tyus is much better than Pritchard.
I think in the end it all depends on Wagner/Banchero. We can juggle rest of the players as long as we have assets.

The problem anyone should have with the Boston comparisons should be the outside shooting of our “star” duo. They don’t play the same way. Jett Howard cannot be a “luxury Hauser” as a role. He needs to become way more than that. Outside shooting needs to come from somewhere on this roster if it’s not primarily development from Paolo/Franz.

Well hard to disagree. I wouldnt be shocked if Howard is starting by year 3, but is also nice to have soft landing option as a bench shooter with size.
Black and Suggs are more volatile. If they dont keep shooting and be more effective in p&r it will be hard to build top 10 offense with them starting.

[drsd]

In the back of my head whenever people say they're going to release Moe for cap space & then bring him back at 8 million I'm like man, I think his market has increased. This raise is probably closer to what his actual market value is right now. I don't think we appreciate how good he was last season.

Amen brother.

Centers always "get paid". And M-Wagner was a LOTTTTT better last year than managment expected. He is clearly an NBA baller. And I would not have said that 2-years ago.

Look: if M-Wagner gave up trying to lead the league in charges forced and actually played better interior defense, he would be a 20M per year guy. And he is in EXACTLY the environment top become a competent defender.

There is more upside in M-Wagner. 12M a year might emerge as a bargain. ANd if it doesn't, this contract want' effect the cap significantly.

So yeh, give him 50M. Tie him up so little-Bro wants to go mini-max. That's where the really money to be spent will be spent, anyhow.

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