More Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread

[Guano]

going to be real hard for any team to win a chip with KAT on that deal in this new cba

wait until you see Randle's new deal

[iLLSonChandla]

Apparently we're hiring Mo Cheeks

[WargamesX]

going to be real hard for any team to win a chip with KAT on that deal in this new cba

It's going to be hard for us to win with the centers we have though, if they plan on keeping Randle they cannot continue to put rim runners next to him, it's so stupid at this point. Trade Mitch and actually draft someone that profiles as a stretch 5. The era of the rim runner is completely over, the only way I can any team winning with one of them is if they're under $10 million per year. As much as I like IHart, his lack of a shot is also going to be a hinderance to winning a chip.

it would be a lot harder to win with KAT playing C for us than those 2. he is a dummy, can't be counted on in the playoffs, limits roster construction on that deal, and isn't a good defender.

as for our centers, they both are nice yet limited. iHart is the better offensive player and if we're interested in upgrading with a stretch 5 he can go, because mitch is the better defender of the two.

I still think you keep both. It was the two of them combined who essentially took turns beating Embiid up. Either one by themselves and Embiid gets them in foul trouble and goes off for 50 points. If they had both been healthy they would have done the same thing to Myles Turner.

[spree2kawhi]

It's going to be hard for us to win with the centers we have though, if they plan on keeping Randle they cannot continue to put rim runners next to him, it's so stupid at this point. Trade Mitch and actually draft someone that profiles as a stretch 5. The era of the rim runner is completely over, the only way I can any team winning with one of them is if they're under $10 million per year. As much as I like IHart, his lack of a shot is also going to be a hinderance to winning a chip.

it would be a lot harder to win with KAT playing C for us than those 2. he is a dummy, can't be counted on in the playoffs, limits roster construction on that deal, and isn't a good defender.

as for our centers, they both are nice yet limited. iHart is the better offensive player and if we're interested in upgrading with a stretch 5 he can go, because mitch is the better defender of the two.

I still think you keep both. It was the two of them combined who essentially took turns beating Embiid up. Either one by themselves and Embiid gets them in foul trouble and goes off for 50 points. If they had both been healthy they would have done the same thing to Myles Turner.

Good point. They’re both serviceable but better together. unlike in the 90s position has become fairly easy to fill though. I wouldn’t emphasize keeping both of them because a big stretch-5 would be much more important for us. The focus should be on adding a stretch-5 and wing-defense.

[Wildcat]

Apparently we're hiring Mo Cheeks

Interesting hire. I wonder what he adds.

[spree2kawhi]

Apparently we're hiring Mo Cheeks

Interesting hire. I wonder what he adds.

Why not JVG?

[Wildcat]

Apparently we're hiring Mo Cheeks

Interesting hire. I wonder what he adds.

Why not JVG?

I'm assuming there's some bitterness between MSG and JVG. I don't know if it's true or not and I wondered last month if JVG wasn't apart of the Celtics, would he have been invited to MSG for those playoff games.

[spree2kawhi]

Interesting hire. I wonder what he adds.

Why not JVG?

I'm assuming there's some bitterness between MSG and JVG. I don't know if it's true or not and I wondered last month if JVG wasn't apart of the Celtics, would he have been invited to MSG for those playoff games.

He belongs on this squad.

[KnixinSix]

it’s from february

So, what's that mean??

that he isn’t going anywhere this off season

He is openly stating Knicks are a desirable destination and that his stint in Brooklyn opened his eyes to New York being a great place to live. Best city in the world as he said it. Not saying he asks out of Pheonix but it definitely seems like he would be keen to playing for the Knicks.

[DaGawd]

according to the athletic we never seriously pursued paul george and the nets once again have zero interest in trading mikal bridges

[douggood]

according to the athletic we never seriously pursued paul george and the nets once again have zero interest in trading mikal bridges

per katz
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5562703/2024/06/14/knicks-trade-stars-offseason/

[DaGawd]

we also never had serious kat talk and are cooled on donovan mitchell.. we don’t want nobody!

[TheGreenArrow]

we also never had serious kat talk and are cooled on donovan mitchell.. we don’t want nobody!

I’d be totally fine running it back with an addition like Caruso!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GONYK]

we also never had serious kat talk and are cooled on donovan mitchell.. we don’t want nobody!

I think we don't want anybody that will cost a lot, are poor fits, and won't move the needle much

[KnicksGadfly]

we also never had serious kat talk and are cooled on donovan mitchell.. we don’t want nobody!

I think our best bet, if we're really serious, is making a move for Lebron or KD, and then adding a 6th man. There's no perfect candidate, unfortunately, barring Giannis.

[sol537]

according to the athletic we never seriously pursued paul george and the nets once again have zero interest in trading mikal bridges

per katz
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5562703/2024/06/14/knicks-trade-stars-offseason/

If true, some "around the edges" type of trade could help us long-term.

For example, what if we use Bogs and McBride along with picks to get Caruso and Patrick Williams in a trade. Then bring over Rokas while extending Thibs, iHart, and OG. Caruso could be our "Derrick White" type acquisition. More Thibs type players. Running it back with a strengthened core in the hopes that Randle and co. continue to elevate their games together. I can dig it.

iHart / Mitch
Randle / Williams
OG / Hart
DDV / Caruso
Brunson / Rokas

[DE FENSE]

Please stop pretending Mikal will be on this roster any time soon. Its over everyone, move on!

[NoDopeOnSundays]

going to be real hard for any team to win a chip with KAT on that deal in this new cba

It's going to be hard for us to win with the centers we have though, if they plan on keeping Randle they cannot continue to put rim runners next to him, it's so stupid at this point. Trade Mitch and actually draft someone that profiles as a stretch 5. The era of the rim runner is completely over, the only way I can any team winning with one of them is if they're under $10 million per year. As much as I like IHart, his lack of a shot is also going to be a hinderance to winning a chip.

it would be a lot harder to win with KAT playing C for us than those 2. he is a dummy, can't be counted on in the playoffs, limits roster construction on that deal, and isn't a good defender.

as for our centers, they both are nice yet limited. iHart is the better offensive player and if we're interested in upgrading with a stretch 5 he can go, because mitch is the better defender of the two.

They're at a fork in the road, if they plan of keeping Randle then the best way to maximize his talent is to put a stretch 5 next to him. If they're going another direction then maybe you keep the rim runners, but even then it's an antiquated role with a ceiling on what you can achieve in a league where the elite centers do multiple things. The threat of shooting from a C is a true weapon, the Pacers played the Celtics better than anyone so far because Turner has to be respected outside.



Mitch is injured entirely too much, he's missed more games since 2020 than Kristaps and Embiid, that is untenable whether you like him or not. He is unreliable and doesn't reach their high points.

Embiid
224 games

Kristaps
216


Mitch
193

[Capn'O]

It's going to be hard for us to win with the centers we have though, if they plan on keeping Randle they cannot continue to put rim runners next to him, it's so stupid at this point. Trade Mitch and actually draft someone that profiles as a stretch 5. The era of the rim runner is completely over, the only way I can any team winning with one of them is if they're under $10 million per year. As much as I like IHart, his lack of a shot is also going to be a hinderance to winning a chip.

it would be a lot harder to win with KAT playing C for us than those 2. he is a dummy, can't be counted on in the playoffs, limits roster construction on that deal, and isn't a good defender.

as for our centers, they both are nice yet limited. iHart is the better offensive player and if we're interested in upgrading with a stretch 5 he can go, because mitch is the better defender of the two.

They're at a fork in the road, if they plan of keeping Randle then the best way to maximize his talent is to put a stretch 5 next to him. If they're going another direction then maybe you keep the rim runners, but even then it's an antiquated role with a ceiling on what you can achieve in a league where the elite centers do multiple things. The threat of shooting from a C is a true weapon, the Pacers played the Celtics better than anyone so far because Turner has to be respected outside.



Mitch is injured entirely too much, he's missed more games since 2020 than Kristaps and Embiid, that is untenable whether you like him or not. He is unreliable and doesn't reach their high points.

Embiid
224 games

Kristaps
216


Mitch
193

I maintain, until we get a realistic name to pursue in this role, this is a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing.

I was down for trading for Turner a few years back when that was a rumor. Hell, even Melo brought up using iHart differently the other day since he does have the 3 in his arsenal. But if we're giving up Mitch and bringing in Duop Reath because he can shoot it a bit I'm not in.

What would help is an all around better and more reliable player at C. That list of names is short.

[sol537]

It's going to be hard for us to win with the centers we have though, if they plan on keeping Randle they cannot continue to put rim runners next to him, it's so stupid at this point. Trade Mitch and actually draft someone that profiles as a stretch 5. The era of the rim runner is completely over, the only way I can any team winning with one of them is if they're under $10 million per year. As much as I like IHart, his lack of a shot is also going to be a hinderance to winning a chip.

it would be a lot harder to win with KAT playing C for us than those 2. he is a dummy, can't be counted on in the playoffs, limits roster construction on that deal, and isn't a good defender.

as for our centers, they both are nice yet limited. iHart is the better offensive player and if we're interested in upgrading with a stretch 5 he can go, because mitch is the better defender of the two.

They're at a fork in the road, if they plan of keeping Randle then the best way to maximize his talent is to put a stretch 5 next to him. If they're going another direction then maybe you keep the rim runners, but even then it's an antiquated role with a ceiling on what you can achieve in a league where the elite centers do multiple things. The threat of shooting from a C is a true weapon, the Pacers played the Celtics better than anyone so far because Turner has to be respected outside.



Mitch is injured entirely too much, he's missed more games since 2020 than Kristaps and Embiid, that is untenable whether you like him or not. He is unreliable and doesn't reach their high points.

Embiid
224 games

Kristaps
216


Mitch
193

I'm fine with trading Mitch and using our picks to find a more durable replacement (via the Draft or via Trade).