2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[grant101]

https://youtu.be/s2g4oUBUuEs?si=3y6ViV31NFRSB3ID&t=31

Timestamped to the relevant part.

Ok, this makes me think it's Sarr, which wouldn't surprise me given his similarly to Mobley and the well-reported interest Masai had in trading up to draft him.

I don't see that happening, at least not with a Top 10 pick. Sarr is seemingly a lock for the Top 3 so it would be somewhat more costly to do so - and only the Rockets seem to be interested in moving their pick (I know the Hawks have been rumored to want to trade down but I am skeptical of that claim as well as what it would cost).

Neither do I. I'm only mentioning that the guy for whom the Raptor's were hoping to keep their pick (as suggested by Doug) was probably Sarr. Doug doesn't suggest that they are actively looking to trade into the Top 10, only that they had someone in mind if they kept the pick.

[Loyal_Canuck]

Jarret Allen would be an upgrade over Poetl

[Indeed]

3pt shooting could come from The MLE PG or Big that we go after.
#19 will solve one of the PG Depth or Big man Depth
Trent can be 3pt shooting/scoring from the bench wings.
A Brown trade will add a starter with some yrs attached, or a bench player (one that possibly shoot 3s)

I don't think you understand it right, we need one single player or two to fill all those needs (aka getting a star player), not having multiple role players where they can't get minutes.

For example, 3 point shooting main issue is Barnes and Poeltl, you can't get help when this is 20%+ of the minutes.

Brother I'm sure if you yourself went and looked at all the good 3pt shooting teams, I'm sure multiple of them will have a C that doesn't shoot 3s & and a player who shoots 34.1% from 3 like Barnes did last year.

And how are they getting the 3s? Someone created for them, I suppose. Do we have someone who can draw defenders and get open look for them? Just look at the example of Watanabe who shoots way better with elite creators. Our team is more than single dimensional 3 point shooters, otherwise, Brown/Trent/Dick are there already.

[WuTang_CMB]

KP talked to execs at combine ... "our boards are no where near matching any of the mocks"

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[Psubs]

It's Tidjane Salaun

100%

I do think the Spurs with two early picks would look at him first. He is one of Wemby's best freidns

Salaun told KENS 5 that he communicated with the Spurs, which shows that the team is doing its due diligence. They have shown interest in him and even scouted him in Cholet, France.

"Yeah, I talked with them when they came to Cholet," he said.

The 18-year-old has been a fast riser in the draft. He is listed at 6’9’’ and 212 lbs. Scouting reports describe him as relentless, fluid, agile, strong, and athletic.

He does need to improve his outside shot, overall offense, and rebounding, but he is raw and could use some time in the G League to develop.

Nevertheless, he will soon join his fellow French countryman, Victor Wembanyama, in the NBA.

And taking the court with Wemby will likely leave him in awe, whether or not he is his teammate.

"Victor is an inspiration for not only basketball players but for all the sports in France," Salaun said to KENS 5. "He's tall, and he makes the impossible possible."

Salaun says he admires Wemby's work ethic in improving his game.

"That’s great for all of us. He inspires me every day because he works a lot, and now he can dribble like a point guard."

The pair also keeps in contact, which would bode well for the Spurs if they were to select him and not worry about team chemistry between them.

"I talked with him in March," Salaun said about keeping in touch with the Spurs center.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/nba-hopeful-tidjane-salaun-speaks-with-the-spurs-sees-wembanyama-as-an-inspiration/ar-BB1nOSjh?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Salaun at #8 to the Spurs makes sense. Like a raw Blake Griffin to play along side Wemby and guard the beefy guys.

I wonder if the news the Raptors would like a pick in the lottery because the news of Nikola Topic's health might have him drop, but not all the way to #19. Topic may be the target at #9 if he falls to there.

[Psubs]

There isn't a single player in this draft worth giving up assets to trade up for.
Maybe Rischarer because of the perfect fit n potential, but that's about it.

Agreed. I don't like the idea of trading up.

But I also am not sure we need to read too much into these rumours. Unless they're trading up for the 1st or 2nd pick, it doesn't make any sense to move up target one player two weeks before the draft in such a chaotic draft where everyone's draft boards are different and no one has any idea how the picks will go.

So I doubt they're actually "trying to move up with one target in mind". If anything, they're probably just doing their due diligence and seeing what it would take to move up if there's a player that they really like who seems like he'd be available at an interesting spot in the lottery. Just keeping options option and gaining knowledge beforehand.

I would trade up if it meant not adding more draft picks...

Trade Poeltl for #9 and Brandon Clarke.

Trade #19, Boucher and Ochai Agbaji for say #14 and Malcolm Brogdon.

If Portland would rather have Brandon Clarke under control for 3 years around the MLE....

Trade #19, Brandon Clark and Ochai Agbaji for say #14 and Malcolm Brogdon.

OMG that's a great 3-way trade!!!

Draft #9 Zach Edey, #14 Carlton Carrington and #31 Ulrich Chomche (hopefully can trade #31 for 2 2nd picks and still get Chomche)

[TGM]

At 19 I think Edey is definitely the safe pick for risk and reward.

I think the closest player to come out of college like him past 10 years is maybe someone like Roy Hibbert. Edey arguably has a more complete game and just motor compared to Hibbert. Roy's size despite the slow foot speed helped anchor a very good Pacers team early days. Even with the change in the NBA I can't see why Edey can't have a similar impact.

People tend to forgot how disruptive his size is. Its one thing being 6'11 slow and with a 7'2 wing span and 9'1 reach. Its a total different game when you are 7'4 with a 8 foot wingspan and 9'7 standing reach.

If there is a way to move Jakob for a late lotto pick I would use that to nab Edey. Then flip Brown and 19 to try to move into top 10 to take Masai's high upside pick.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Crawford should be in play at 31

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[Dalek]

Crawford should be in play at 31

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Don't two knee surgeries scare you away? He is productive but has a injury factor.

[Syd-TK3]

I'll never believe any of this "trading up" stuff until it actually happens
If we did stay at the 6th pick imo I think Risacher, Castle and Cody woulda been top of the list

[Mark_83]

Crawford should be in play at 31

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I like him a lot. He low-key reminds me of a poor man's Kawhi. I'd prefer to trade for another pick to take him though rather than using 31. Or maybe trade down from 31 for Portland's 34 and 40.

Take him at either pick and then choose one of Mogbo, Simpson, or Shead with the other.

It's tough without having Intel on who wants which players (for example, I wanted him as my top UDFA if he made it that far). But if he definitely is getting drafted I'd do what I could to get another pick.

[Dalek]

Kolek is locked in for me at 19. I just have zero doubt about him. This is probably my favorite film session of all time. He is one prepared dude.

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[Mark_83]

Just saw this. I know literally nothing about this guy, but he sounds interesting.

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[BoyzNTheHood]

Crawford should be in play at 31

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Don't two knee surgeries scare you away? He is productive but has a injury factor.

100% but he might be the best talent available at 31, and in that case I have to trust my medical staff.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Crawford should be in play at 31

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I like him a lot. He low-key reminds me of a poor man's Kawhi. I'd prefer to trade for another pick to take him though rather than using 31. Or maybe trade down from 31 for Portland's 34 and 40.

Take him at either pick and then choose one of Mogbo, Simpson, or Shead with the other.

It's tough without having Intel on who wants which players (for example, I wanted him as my top UDFA if he made it that far). But if he definitely is getting drafted I'd do what I could to get another pick.

I guess we’re both crazy because Kawhi is the first guy that came to mind for me as well when I saw him. We know he won’t be anything close to the Klaw, but even a poor man’s version would be epic.

I also agree on trading down, but I don’t trust our front office to get into the draft since they’ve rarely seen the value in it.

[CPT]

Catching up on this thread (every time I look there's another 5 pages, and it's a pain in the ass to go between desktop and mobile, so I just... don't) and other videos, podcasts, articles, etc on the draft.

I still really like Edey. I still think it's more likely he goes top 10 than is available at 19. I also think it's more likely he's the best player in this draft than a bust (let's say that means 4th year team option declined).

Intrigued by Mogbo, though I would hope it's at 31. If he's a poor man's Scottie in some ways, it could give us 48 minutes of Scottie, including some interesting lineups when they overlap.

Other thoughts:
-Wouldn't be upset if Ware is not on the board at our pick. Makes me nervous. Let someone else make that decision.
-I think I like Carrington better than Collier
-Differentiating between all of the wings is tough, so I don't want to try
-I'm going to abuse The Ringer's skill feature function and only look at guys who've "Got that dog in him"
-Hearing Will Lou refer to Tyler Kolek as "6'3, white guard, Marquette" made me feel some type of way. I don't know if it was a Freudian slip or just, like, an accurate classification
-I'm getting to the point I get in every draft where I want about 8 picks, mostly second rounders
-Finding out I'm still a wingspan guy at heart

[BoyzNTheHood]

Just saw this. I know literally nothing about this guy, but he sounds interesting.

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Nice find. Amir Johnson with the summer 3 already equipped?

[Grew]

Crawford should be in play at 31

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I like him a lot. He low-key reminds me of a poor man's Kawhi. I'd prefer to trade for another pick to take him though rather than using 31. Or maybe trade down from 31 for Portland's 34 and 40.

Take him at either pick and then choose one of Mogbo, Simpson, or Shead with the other.

It's tough without having Intel on who wants which players (for example, I wanted him as my top UDFA if he made it that far). But if he definitely is getting drafted I'd do what I could to get another pick.

I guess we’re both crazy because Kawhi is the first guy that came to mind for me as well when I saw him. We know he won’t be anything close to the Klaw, but even a poor man’s version would be epic.

I also agree on trading down, but I don’t trust our front office to get into the draft since they’ve rarely seen the value in it.

Made me think Jeremy Grant

[OAKLEY_2]

I'll never believe any of this "trading up" stuff until it actually happens
If we did stay at the 6th pick imo I think Risacher, Castle and Cody woulda been top of the list

And since it never happens there's nothing ever to believe let alone contemplate. Raptors will wait to see who falls and compare against their board. Brown is an interesting item that could be added to #31. Doug may have another incomplete story regarding Brown including progress on that bum knee. GSW in theory would get a respectable pick we select for them and Brown and we get Wiggins bloated contract and Moody. Makes up for the inevitable reality of missing out on Zac Edey.

[alpngso]

Tons of juicy info on Peek’s appearance on No Ceilings pod