**NBA Draft Discussion 2024**

[MettaWorldPanda]

Watched Clingan game tape. He is a dam good defensive player I mean dam good

Hawks Snyder begging his front office to take him. Just might got 1 if they feel like he won’t be there at 4 trading with Spurs.

[MettaWorldPanda]

I'd love to know what kind of pick can we get for Herro.

Would Magic give up #16?
Bulls #11?
Raptors #19?

Because I just might.

Feels like getting a double injection of talent in the mid first this year can really change the vibes around this team.

Rozier/Ajay Mitchell
Devin Carter/Robinson
Jimmy/JJJ
Bam/Jovic
Ware/Bona

We are not getting a pick by trading a 30 million dollar long term contract Herro. Just no. Teams would rather just probably draft a cost controlled two unless they are getting Donovan Mitchell. You also have teams like the Magic who have money to spend and probably just look at adding someone like Malik Monk or Buddy Hield.

[lastb1ckman]

Don’t draft anyone please that you’re not 1000% percent sure can share the floor with Bam for long stretches. Pick someone with the long term vision as a potential starter. Let’s not have another Achuiwa situation where you burn a good pick on a backup Center. You save that for the 2nd round.

Tbh, I think if Precious was still on the team and was just a good back up C for us, I wouldn't be disappointed. Especially if we still drafted Jovic and Jaime. We'd be set as far as a big rotation goes for a long time. The drop off defensively with Bam off the floor would be minimum instead of the corpse of Cody Zeller or Dwayne Dedmon or Kevin Love or Thomas Bryant trying not to lose us games by themselves.

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[MettaWorldPanda]

Don’t draft anyone please that you’re not 1000% percent sure can share the floor with Bam for long stretches. Pick someone with the long term vision as a potential starter. Let’s not have another Achuiwa situation where you burn a good pick on a backup Center. You save that for the 2nd round.

Tbh, I think if Precious was still on the team and was just a good back up C for us, I wouldn't be disappointed. Especially if we still drafted Jovic and Jaime. We'd be set as far as a big rotation goes for a long time. The drop off defensively with Bam off the floor would be minimum instead of the corpse of Cody Zeller or Dwayne Dedmon or Kevin Love or Thomas Bryant trying not to lose us games by themselves.

You don’t draft a 12-14 min backup Center at 15. You draft someone that can play the 4/5 and shoot the 3 while Bam is on the floor and when he’s off the floor he can protect the paint.

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Don’t draft anyone please that you’re not 1000% percent sure can share the floor with Bam for long stretches. Pick someone with the long term vision as a potential starter. Let’s not have another Achuiwa situation where you burn a good pick on a backup Center. You save that for the 2nd round.

Tbh, I think if Precious was still on the team and was just a good back up C for us, I wouldn't be disappointed. Especially if we still drafted Jovic and Jaime. We'd be set as far as a big rotation goes for a long time. The drop off defensively with Bam off the floor would be minimum instead of the corpse of Cody Zeller or Dwayne Dedmon or Kevin Love or Thomas Bryant trying not to lose us games by themselves.

If Precious was here the Heat plan was to develop him to play next to Bam. Precious was a raw project when the Heat drafted him but he was good enough to play behind Bam. But the Heat had it already set to use Precious pick and Iggy, and Dragic to trade for a point ala Lowry. A lot in here expected too much too soon of Precious. I said from the git go that Precious should of been sent to G-league to develop but I think they really wanted to showcase him for a trade. But Precious wasn't a bad player here at all. If Dipo didn't get hurt Precious might have developed to play next to Bam.

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Since I consider Tyler Smith a big, rather than a wing, it means there's a high chance we get a guard and big this draft.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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PLEASE BRING HIM IN FOR A WORKOUT

[marson]

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PLEASE BRING HIM IN FOR A WORKOUT

Good Character guy. Has that HEAT DNA.

But if Carter is available, it's a no-brainer.

[MettaWorldPanda]

da Silva mentioned being boys with Jabari Walker on the Blazers. The Blazers have so much intel on da Silva going back to last year. I think he's going there with the 14th pick.

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PLEASE BRING HIM IN FOR A WORKOUT

Good Character guy. Has that HEAT DNA.

But if Carter is available, it's a no-brainer.

He does man I've been big on da Silva since the start of this whole process. Feel like Cronin is going to snipe us at 14. Feel like both Carter and da Silva will be off the board. Carter apparently has a lottery promise

[lastb1ckman]

Don’t draft anyone please that you’re not 1000% percent sure can share the floor with Bam for long stretches. Pick someone with the long term vision as a potential starter. Let’s not have another Achuiwa situation where you burn a good pick on a backup Center. You save that for the 2nd round.

Tbh, I think if Precious was still on the team and was just a good back up C for us, I wouldn't be disappointed. Especially if we still drafted Jovic and Jaime. We'd be set as far as a big rotation goes for a long time. The drop off defensively with Bam off the floor would be minimum instead of the corpse of Cody Zeller or Dwayne Dedmon or Kevin Love or Thomas Bryant trying not to lose us games by themselves.

You don’t draft a 12-14 min backup Center at 15. You draft someone that can play the 4/5 and shoot the 3 while Bam is on the floor and when he’s off the floor he can protect the paint.

https://www.theringer.com/2021/7/28/22597310/nba-draft-expectations

This article is a couple of year old, but it says the median player at 14 is DENZEL VALENTINE. I don't even think he's in the league anymore. Especially after that transition air ball he hit against us lol

Personally, I don't expect anyone we take this year to beat out Jovic for that spot next to Bam. I like his trajectory, he's barely older than the players we can take this season, and I think he fits next to Bam. I'm ok with non lottery players being back ups, that's what they usually end up being.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Tbh, I think if Precious was still on the team and was just a good back up C for us, I wouldn't be disappointed. Especially if we still drafted Jovic and Jaime. We'd be set as far as a big rotation goes for a long time. The drop off defensively with Bam off the floor would be minimum instead of the corpse of Cody Zeller or Dwayne Dedmon or Kevin Love or Thomas Bryant trying not to lose us games by themselves.

You don’t draft a 12-14 min backup Center at 15. You draft someone that can play the 4/5 and shoot the 3 while Bam is on the floor and when he’s off the floor he can protect the paint.

https://www.theringer.com/2021/7/28/22597310/nba-draft-expectations

This article is a couple of year old, but it says the median player at 14 is DENZEL VALENTINE. I don't even think he's in the league anymore. Especially after that transition air ball he hit against us lol

Personally, I don't expect anyone we take this year to beat out Jovic for that spot next to Bam. I like his trajectory, he's barely older than the players we can take this season, and I think he fits next to Bam. I'm ok with non lottery players being back ups, that's what they usually end up being.

It's ok to draft backups but why draft a projected long term backup when you know Bam is probably going to be here for another 10 years. Why would you draft someone who can't share the floor with him for long stretches. This has been this teams Achilles heel from the big spot since KO left. We wasted roster spots on Thomas Bryant and Orlando Robinson when Spo never even remotely tried to play them with Bam. He even gave up on playing Love with Bam cause he was too slow and relegated him to backup Center. Make it make sense

[lastb1ckman]

You don’t draft a 12-14 min backup Center at 15. You draft someone that can play the 4/5 and shoot the 3 while Bam is on the floor and when he’s off the floor he can protect the paint.

https://www.theringer.com/2021/7/28/22597310/nba-draft-expectations

This article is a couple of year old, but it says the median player at 14 is DENZEL VALENTINE. I don't even think he's in the league anymore. Especially after that transition air ball he hit against us lol

Personally, I don't expect anyone we take this year to beat out Jovic for that spot next to Bam. I like his trajectory, he's barely older than the players we can take this season, and I think he fits next to Bam. I'm ok with non lottery players being back ups, that's what they usually end up being.

It's ok to draft backups but why draft a projected long term backup when you know Bam is probably going to be here for another 10 years. Why would you draft someone who can't share the floor with him for long stretches. This has been this teams Achilles heel from the big spot since KO left. We wasted roster spots on Thomas Bryant and Orlando Robinson when Spo never even remotely tried to play them with Bam. He even gave up on playing Love with Bam cause he was too slow and relegated him to backup Center. Make it make sense

I don't follow the confusion here. The literal solution to a big next to bam is already here, Jovic. He's already doing the whole Kelly O thing and getting better. If big men on our team can't out perform Jovic on offense & defense, they ain't playing over him.

Thomas Byrant is on the team, because at the time we had been dealing with old vet centers wearing down by the time the playoffs came. He's still youngish, has some offensive versatility, and was the best back up C available at the time. That's a much better reclamation project than usual for us. If he really hit, he might have been able to start eventually, which just gives us much more positional versatility.

Orlando Robinson is on the team because the back up C position has always been shaky, he must have shown some great strides at improvement the last offseason, and he's still young. Who knows how good he'll be in the coming seasons, he might even compete with whatever center we draft this year.

However both didn't end up playing much because Jovic unexpectantly improved enough over the season to deserve to a starting spot next Bam. And Klove, even at age 35, was still more steady on defense than either of them, along with replicating most of what they could bring on offense. So to the bench they go. And I support this, because watching them play this season showed how dire they still were there.

[MettaWorldPanda]

https://www.theringer.com/2021/7/28/22597310/nba-draft-expectations

This article is a couple of year old, but it says the median player at 14 is DENZEL VALENTINE. I don't even think he's in the league anymore. Especially after that transition air ball he hit against us lol

Personally, I don't expect anyone we take this year to beat out Jovic for that spot next to Bam. I like his trajectory, he's barely older than the players we can take this season, and I think he fits next to Bam. I'm ok with non lottery players being back ups, that's what they usually end up being.

It's ok to draft backups but why draft a projected long term backup when you know Bam is probably going to be here for another 10 years. Why would you draft someone who can't share the floor with him for long stretches. This has been this teams Achilles heel from the big spot since KO left. We wasted roster spots on Thomas Bryant and Orlando Robinson when Spo never even remotely tried to play them with Bam. He even gave up on playing Love with Bam cause he was too slow and relegated him to backup Center. Make it make sense

I don't follow the confusion here. The literal solution to a big next to bam is already here, Jovic. He's already doing the whole Kelly O thing and getting better. If big men on our team can't out perform Jovic on offense & defense, they ain't playing over him.

Thomas Byrant is on the team, because at the time we had been dealing with old vet centers wearing down by the time the playoffs came. He's still youngish, has some offensive versatility, and was the best back up C available at the time. That's a much better reclamation project than usual for us. If he really hit, he might have been able to start eventually, which just gives us much more positional versatility.

Orlando Robinson is on the team because the back up C position has always been shaky, he must have shown some great strides at improvement the last offseason, and he's still young. Who knows how good he'll be in the coming seasons, he might even compete with whatever center we draft this year.

However both didn't end up playing much because Jovic unexpectantly improved enough over the season to deserve to a starting spot next Bam. And Klove, even at age 35, was still more steady on defense than either of them, along with replicating most of what they could bring on offense. So to the bench they go. And I support this, because watching them play this season showed how dire they still were there.

You draft someone that has potential to play with both Bam and Jovic is what i’m trying to stress here. When Bam is out you have someone who can slide to the Center spot and do Center things. When Bam is in can stretch the floor. Don’t pigeon hole yourself to just drafting a backup Center who can’t play with Bam. You can get a strick backup non shooting Center in the second round. I would also be fine with a thick small ball 4 that can slide Jovic to stretch 5. Someone in the Crowder/Tucker mold. Kel’el Ware has that potential to play with both Bam and Jovic.

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I'm surprised Jared McCain isn't on the list.

[lastb1ckman]

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I'm surprised Jared McCain isn't on the list.

He gives me shades of Tyler Herro, so they probably don't want duplication there. Who knows though, plenty of time left for McCain or Da Silva to workout here.

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I'm surprised Jared McCain isn't on the list.

He gives me shades of Tyler Herro, so they probably don't want duplication there. Who knows though, plenty of time left for McCain or Da Silva to workout here.

He's a better defender than Herro. My first choice as a guard would be Carter, Tbh.

[lastb1ckman]

I'm surprised Jared McCain isn't on the list.

He gives me shades of Tyler Herro, so they probably don't want duplication there. Who knows though, plenty of time left for McCain or Da Silva to workout here.

He's a better defender than Herro. My first choice as a guard would be Carter, Tbh.

Idk, he's stronger than Herro but smaller and isn't any longer wingspan wise. He's also not a crazy athlete like Carter so his defense upside is iffy to me. I wouldn't be surprised if he has similar issues Herro has.

[DayofMourning]

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Edey eh?

He will be a good throw in when we trade for an aging point who needs a payday.