Finals 2024 - G4 - Mavs Vs Celtics (Friday, 8:30 PM EST)

[Bob8]

Kidd was actually really good with adjustments during the playoffs, i have no clue what's going on with them in this series. It's like someone punched them on the mouth and they can't get up. It's such a weird matchup.

Why are you guys acting surprised??

I think the REALITY is that the Celtics are just BETTER than us on a few levels - roster depth, coaching, experience, hunger, mentality etc etc.

Hence why their margin of error is BIG that they can have a bad shooting night and still win against us.

Hence why Kyrie's last 13 games record a terrible 0-13 that we know it is not a fluke, rather they know how to stop Kyrie.

Hence why we have not beaten this Celtics team for 2 seasons.

It is really really bitter but simple for us Mavs fans: They are JUST BETTER.

And there is no shame to admit this, really. Our team is like them few years ago when they lost to GSW.

It is not our time YET to win the championship, but with some patience and the proper development on the roster, like how they added Holiday and KP, we will be back and by then Luka will be more mature as well and our players will be more experienced and hungry at the same time.

Well, yeah but there are still levels to this. Luka made 9 3's in first 2 games, rest of the team made FIVE combined. If you told me that before series started i would call you crazy

And it doesn't even matter if Celtics took away their corner 3's, this is NBA. I would expect from them to hit a freaking open 3 from anywhere on the floor. Because we did see that many times before.
It's like that first game vs LAC when Mavs had what? 8 pts in a Q? That was a huge anomaly and them shooting so horribly from 3 in first two games i would say was also a huge anomaly.

Unfortunately game 3 Luka and Kidd fumbled the ball at the end... Still, just weird series and hopefully they'll learn something from it. Also Luka being all banged up doesn't help. In normal circumstances at least game 3 would never have been a loss.

Game 2 was the game we should have won. Game 3 was lost early in 4th, down 21 points. It was miraculous comeback, but difficult to win those games, Luka or no Luka.

[tleikheen]

At this point ,its on Jason Kidd ....... he avoided getting fired when the calls were loudest . He thinks he's a great coach and he's not . He sticks to rotations with his favorites to the detriment of the team.
He resisted playing the 2 Center lineup by continously playing Kleber as the Center . He resisted playing Exum when the 3 guard lineup helped out Luka and Kyrie . He says the Mavs won't win a championship without THJ and he sticks with them .
It's been clear Kidd's stationary offense makes Boston look like a super defense .Any teams defense can look better than it is when there's no ball movement or player movement.

But in the NBA Finals the lights shine brightest on good play and "Bad decisions" ...... Luka needs to stop playing 1 against 5 and show he can lead his offense past double digit scores. Kidd needs to stop panicking ,he made bad choices.

Exum ,Hardy and Lively should be the only guys off the bench tonight and you don't need a 3rd scorer when you have Gaff and Lively as the 3rd scorer already . Use them !

[HMFFL]

What is Mavs record when Dirk doesn't create game threads? What type of under the table deal did you two made with Celtics fans? That's the real question

LOL...Creating game threads can be a tough job. I did it for many years but I do have the 2011 Championship on my resume.

[HMFFL]

Mavs are a 1 point favorite.
Boston has won 7 straight games. I'd love this streak to end so we can shake it before next season.

Go MAVS!

[Archx]

What is Mavs record when Dirk doesn't create game threads? What type of under the table deal did you two made with Celtics fans? That's the real question

LOL...Creating game threads can be a tough job. I did it for many years but I do have the 2011 Championship on my resume.

Where were you 3 games ago?

[HMFFL]

Any updates on Kristaps Porzingis?

[tleikheen]

The last game Gaff and Lively scored 17 pts /16 rebs and that was without and emphasis to use them to attack Horford and the Center of the Celtics defense. If Gaff/Lively score 24 pts and 15 rebs tonight ,Mavs will win . The advantage is there without KP playing but the Mavs are slow to use this advantage.

[fuller4379]

THJ and Dwight Powell can help the team most by waiving towels and cheerleading.

[tleikheen]

Gaff /Lively are 19/25 at the basket. Clearly need to be featured more without Porzingis playing . Mavs do not need THJ's scoring or Kleber's spacing . They need Exum's 3rd ball handler ,unselfish team ball play more . Kidd has blinders on for Kleber and THJ.

[41Dirk41]

Mavs need to win the 3rd quarter tonight. Last 2 games the Celtics just go on these ridiculous runs where it seems like we have brain fart after brain after and they just capitalize and make exclamation points everywhere. Need to have a strong 3rd quarter tonight, let's not go out with a sweep.

Kidd was actually really good with adjustments during the playoffs, i have no clue what's going on with them in this series. It's like someone punched them on the mouth and they can't get up. It's such a weird matchup.

Why are you guys acting surprised??

I think the REALITY is that the Celtics are just BETTER than us on a few levels - roster depth, coaching, experience, hunger, mentality etc etc.

Hence why their margin of error is BIG that they can have a bad shooting night and still win against us.

Hence why Kyrie's last 13 games record a terrible 0-13 that we know it is not a fluke, rather they know how to stop Kyrie.

Hence why we have not beaten this Celtics team for 2 seasons.

It is really really bitter but simple for us Mavs fans: They are JUST BETTER.

And there is no shame to admit this, really. Our team is like them few years ago when they lost to GSW.

It is not our time YET to win the championship, but with some patience and the proper development on the roster, like how they added Holiday and KP, we will be back and by then Luka will be more mature as well and our players will be more experienced and hungry at the same time.

Yes i agree with the point of this post but then why are we 0-3 when those Cs were 2-2 against the Warriors?
And in out case we have the best player of the series.

Kidd. He was terrible in those 3 games.

[tleikheen]

Im getting tired of hearing Boston is deeper and has a better bench ...... they don't .Pritchard is 1/12 shooting ,Tillman is 1/1 in only playing in one game. Hauser is the only one playing good and he's getting most of his shots off with Luka the closest guy to him.
Lively by himself makes the Mavs bench better .It's Kidds terrible rotations that make the Mavs bench look worst than it is.

[41Dirk41]

Im getting tired of hearing Boston is deeper and has a better bench ...... they don't .Pritchard is 1/12 shooting ,Tillman is 1/1 in only playing in one game. Hauser is the only one playing good and he's getting most of his shots off with Luka the closest guy to him.
Lively by himself makes the Mavs bench better .It's Kidds terrible rotations that make the Mavs bench look worst than it is.

Agree.

Without KP they have 2 shooters and a 3rd string undersize C.

Kidd can't coach at this level, i'm sorry for Luka who has to win despite him. Hard job.

[GermanFan120]

Kidd was actually really good with adjustments during the playoffs, i have no clue what's going on with them in this series. It's like someone punched them on the mouth and they can't get up. It's such a weird matchup.

Why are you guys acting surprised??

I think the REALITY is that the Celtics are just BETTER than us on a few levels - roster depth, coaching, experience, hunger, mentality etc etc.

Hence why their margin of error is BIG that they can have a bad shooting night and still win against us.

Hence why Kyrie's last 13 games record a terrible 0-13 that we know it is not a fluke, rather they know how to stop Kyrie.

Hence why we have not beaten this Celtics team for 2 seasons.

It is really really bitter but simple for us Mavs fans: They are JUST BETTER.

And there is no shame to admit this, really. Our team is like them few years ago when they lost to GSW.

It is not our time YET to win the championship, but with some patience and the proper development on the roster, like how they added Holiday and KP, we will be back and by then Luka will be more mature as well and our players will be more experienced and hungry at the same time.

Well, yeah but there are still levels to this. Luka made 9 3's in first 2 games, rest of the team made FIVE combined. If you told me that before series started i would call you crazy

And it doesn't even matter if Celtics took away their corner 3's, this is NBA. I would expect from them to hit a freaking open 3 from anywhere on the floor. Because we did see that many times before.
It's like that first game vs LAC when Mavs had what? 8 pts in a Q? That was a huge anomaly and them shooting so horribly from 3 in first two games i would say was also a huge anomaly.

Unfortunately game 3 Luka and Kidd fumbled the ball at the end... Still, just weird series and hopefully they'll learn something from it. Also Luka being all banged up doesn't help. In normal circumstances at least game 3 would never have been a loss.

Again, not surprised given most of the Mavs players are not used to this kind of pressure and huge stage at all in their career. In comparison, Celtics have had that experience for years.

[GermanFan120]

Kidd was actually really good with adjustments during the playoffs, i have no clue what's going on with them in this series. It's like someone punched them on the mouth and they can't get up. It's such a weird matchup.

Why are you guys acting surprised??

I think the REALITY is that the Celtics are just BETTER than us on a few levels - roster depth, coaching, experience, hunger, mentality etc etc.

Hence why their margin of error is BIG that they can have a bad shooting night and still win against us.

Hence why Kyrie's last 13 games record a terrible 0-13 that we know it is not a fluke, rather they know how to stop Kyrie.

Hence why we have not beaten this Celtics team for 2 seasons.

It is really really bitter but simple for us Mavs fans: They are JUST BETTER.

And there is no shame to admit this, really. Our team is like them few years ago when they lost to GSW.

It is not our time YET to win the championship, but with some patience and the proper development on the roster, like how they added Holiday and KP, we will be back and by then Luka will be more mature as well and our players will be more experienced and hungry at the same time.

Yes i agree with the point of this post but then why are we 0-3 when those Cs were 2-2 against the Warriors?
And in out case we have the best player of the series.

Kidd. He was terrible in those 3 games.

The 0-3 losses is on a collaborative effort. Not just on Kidd, although I do agree this is new learning for him as well.

[GermanFan120]

Im getting tired of hearing Boston is deeper and has a better bench ...... they don't .Pritchard is 1/12 shooting ,Tillman is 1/1 in only playing in one game. Hauser is the only one playing good and he's getting most of his shots off with Luka the closest guy to him.
Lively by himself makes the Mavs bench better .It's Kidds terrible rotations that make the Mavs bench look worst than it is.

They do. You are just in denial.

[GermanFan120]

THJ and Dwight Powell can help the team most by waiving towels and cheerleading.

Maxi should be joining them too.

[tleikheen]

They do. You are just in denial.

You haven't watched the games at all or can't fathom what you see. The #1 thing you're not seeing is the ball movement with the Celtics and the lack of ball movement by the Mavs . Celtics look deeper because everyone touches the ball before they score . Mavs don't ,so the World sees the 20 dribble moves every possession by Luka and the ball whipping around for the Celtics. Makes them look deeper and better.

[Archx]

Celtics look deeper because everyone touches the ball before they score . Mavs don't ,so the World sees the 20 dribble moves every possession by Luka and the ball whipping around for the Celtics. Makes them look deeper and better.

Scoring averages for the first 3 games.

Luka 29.7
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Brown 24.3
Tatum 21.7
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Kyrie 21
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White 16.3
KP 16
Holiday 15.7
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PJ 14.7


You think more ball movement will magically solve Mavs missing a ton of open 3's.... huh? What more than a completely open shot do you want? 50 layups per game? Doesn't work like that.

[tleikheen]

You think more ball movement will magically solve Mavs missing a ton of open 3's.... huh? What more than a completely open shot do you want? 50 layups per game? Doesn't work like that.

Yes I do ,just like it's working for Boston and every other past Champion. Moving the ball has always been a staple for NBA Champions. And when you have a clear advantage in the paint with Gaff and Lively what the f**ck is wrong with layups and dunks .Gaff and Lively are 19/25 in the 1st 3 games. For not being featured or Mavs taking advantage of this mismatch they are looking better and better every game played.

[Archx]

You think more ball movement will magically solve Mavs missing a ton of open 3's.... huh? What more than a completely open shot do you want? 50 layups per game? Doesn't work like that.

Yes I do ,just like it's working for Boston and every other past Champion. Moving the ball has always been a staple for NBA Champions. And when you have a clear advantage in the paint with Gaff and Lively what the f**ck is wrong with layups and dunks .Gaff and Lively are 19/25 in the 1st 3 games. For not being featured or Mavs taking advantage of this mismatch they are looking better and better every game played.

Mavs played entire season AND playoffs the same way and they are in the finals. Now you're thinking they just decided not to move the ball around and Celtics defense has nothing to do with that? Have you seen how many open looks they already missed? You asked GermanFan120 if he's even watching games, i think we can ask you the same thing.