2024 Off-Season

[Wizop]

I'm warming to the notion of playing Obi as the second unit 5. this is much easier to do if Stix is gone and if he opts in I'd be willing to trade him.

[Tom White]

I'm warming to the notion of playing Obi as the second unit 5. this is much easier to do if Stix is gone and if he opts in I'd be willing to trade him.

Ahead of Jackson? Or Jackson at the 4 spot? Or?

[Wizop]

I'm warming to the notion of playing Obi as the second unit 5. this is much easier to do if Stix is gone and if he opts in I'd be willing to trade him.

Ahead of Jackson? Or Jackson at the 4 spot? Or?

Jackson lacks the shooting range to be a 4. Jarace as a 4 but maybe in very limited minutes. If Myles and Pascal get 30 that leaves only 18 at the 4 and 18 at the 5. the split between Obi and iJax at the 5 would depend upon the other team's backup 5. but I like the idea of Obi playing the 5 in a similar way to Myles as they both shoot threes and block shots. Obi is as good at dunking as iJax and a much better shooter.

[Scoot McGroot]

I'm warming to the notion of playing Obi as the second unit 5. this is much easier to do if Stix is gone and if he opts in I'd be willing to trade him.

Ahead of Jackson? Or Jackson at the 4 spot? Or?

Jackson lacks the shooting range to be a 4. Jarace as a 4 but maybe in very limited minutes. If Myles and Pascal get 30 that leaves only 18 at the 4 and 18 at the 5. the split between Obi and iJax at the 5 would depend upon the other team's backup 5. but I like the idea of Obi playing the 5 in a similar way to Myles as they both shoot threes and block shots. Obi is as good at dunking as iJax and a much better shooter.

I'm pretty comfortable with Obi/Jackson platooning and handling the backup 5, situationally.

[JMaster5K]

Ahead of Jackson? Or Jackson at the 4 spot? Or?

Jackson lacks the shooting range to be a 4. Jarace as a 4 but maybe in very limited minutes. If Myles and Pascal get 30 that leaves only 18 at the 4 and 18 at the 5. the split between Obi and iJax at the 5 would depend upon the other team's backup 5. but I like the idea of Obi playing the 5 in a similar way to Myles as they both shoot threes and block shots. Obi is as good at dunking as iJax and a much better shooter.

I'm pretty comfortable with Obi/Jackson platooning and handling the backup 5, situationally.

Yeah,... I-Jax is playing with a LOT more confidence & authority. Can see lineups where Ob1 replaces Myles, due to his ability to extend the defense, and I-Jax replaces Pascal as the post scorer? Then flop - if needed, depending on matchups, on defense? Would really like to see I-Jax develop some of the post 'craftiness' that makes Pascal so elite. There is a lot to like with this group. =}

[JMaster5K]

Ok,... not buying any of this,... but felt like I should just leave this here?.....

https://www.reddit.com/r/pacers/comments/1dg0c4b/lbj_to_the_pacers/?rdt=41842

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[Scoot McGroot]

From what I would assume, it’s probably the Pacers management that has dreams of locking in Nembhard to such a team friendly contract. It’s highly unlikely his agent lets him sign it. It’s possible they meet in the middle and take a 2 year extension so he locks in some big money and still hits free agency young.

[JMaster5K]

From what I would assume, it’s probably the Pacers management that has dreams of locking in Nembhard to such a team friendly contract. It’s highly unlikely his agent lets him sign it. It’s possible they meet in the middle and take a 2 year extension so he locks in some big money and still hits free agency young.

Just to make sure I understand?.... Nembhard has a team option on 25-26. If the Pacers decline that option, he becomes a RFA in the summer of '25? (If the team makes a qualifying offer.) If they exercise the option, he becomes an UFA in the summer of '26?....

At the end of 24-25, assuming they decline the option, they should then have full Bird rights? (3 full seasons with the same team.)

[Wizop]

From what I would assume, it’s probably the Pacers management that has dreams of locking in Nembhard to such a team friendly contract. It’s highly unlikely his agent lets him sign it. It’s possible they meet in the middle and take a 2 year extension so he locks in some big money and still hits free agency young.

Just to make sure I understand?.... Nembhard has a team option on 25-26. If the Pacers decline that option, he becomes a RFA in the summer of '25? (If the team makes a qualifying offer.) If they exercise the option, he becomes an UFA in the summer of '26?....

At the end of 24-25, assuming they decline the option, they should then have full Bird rights? (3 full seasons with the same team.)

Also he's extension eligible this summer but the expectation is he will be offered still more if he waits

[Scoot McGroot]

From what I would assume, it’s probably the Pacers management that has dreams of locking in Nembhard to such a team friendly contract. It’s highly unlikely his agent lets him sign it. It’s possible they meet in the middle and take a 2 year extension so he locks in some big money and still hits free agency young.

Just to make sure I understand?.... Nembhard has a team option on 25-26. If the Pacers decline that option, he becomes a RFA in the summer of '25? (If the team makes a qualifying offer.) If they exercise the option, he becomes an UFA in the summer of '26?....

At the end of 24-25, assuming they decline the option, they should then have full Bird rights? (3 full seasons with the same team.)

Correct on all accounts. And at that point, he could solicit outside offers (that Indy would have a right to match), and be eligible to sign a salary starting at anything up to his league maximum salary (25% of the salary cap), as opposed to his current extension limits of signing up to 140% of the league average salary.

[boomershadow]

I don't mind playing Obi spot minutes at center, but I do think a third string big would make sense in case of foul trouble or injuries throughout the season. If Myles misses 20 games I don't think the only backup should be Obi.

[Wizop]

I don't mind playing Obi spot minutes at center, but I do think a third string big would make sense in case of foul trouble or injuries throughout the season. If Myles misses 20 games I don't think the only backup should be Obi.

We'd still have iJax for at least a year but adding a bigger emergency 5 would make sense

[JMaster5K]

From what I would assume, it’s probably the Pacers management that has dreams of locking in Nembhard to such a team friendly contract. It’s highly unlikely his agent lets him sign it. It’s possible they meet in the middle and take a 2 year extension so he locks in some big money and still hits free agency young.

Just to make sure I understand?.... Nembhard has a team option on 25-26. If the Pacers decline that option, he becomes a RFA in the summer of '25? (If the team makes a qualifying offer.) If they exercise the option, he becomes an UFA in the summer of '26?....

At the end of 24-25, assuming they decline the option, they should then have full Bird rights? (3 full seasons with the same team.)

Also he's extension eligible this summer but the expectation is he will be offered still more if he waits

Post deleted: Scoot covered it while I was typing,... LOL

[JMaster5K]

I don't mind playing Obi spot minutes at center, but I do think a third string big would make sense in case of foul trouble or injuries throughout the season. If Myles misses 20 games I don't think the only backup should be Obi.[/quote

We'd still have iJax for at least a year but adding a bigger emergency 5 would make sense

Yeah,... I think we need a legitimate, development, 3rd big. More a legit center type, that could develop into a player 2-3 years down the road. Myles is an UFA summer of '25 (next off season)? I have to believe that he is a key part to our immediate & longer term plans. But, it would still be nice to have someone with potential in the development program? Particularly, someone who could match up with the bigger 5's that sometimes give (or maybe, I should say 'gave', he showed improvement this year) I-Jax trouble?

That big,... and a bigger (PF length) development, combo-forward who defends to balance the bench rotations, and eventually be able to fill in the gap between Nesmith & Jackson, are the only 'needs' that I see?.....

[JMaster5K]

Correct on all accounts. And at that point, he could solicit outside offers (that Indy would have a right to match), and be eligible to sign a salary starting at anything up to his league maximum salary (25% of the salary cap), as opposed to his current extension limits of signing up to 140% of the league average salary.

Scoot,... do you know if there are any plans to update Larry Coons CBA website to the new CBA?.... It was apparently last revised in 2022 with the 23 projections?...

[Scoot McGroot]

Correct on all accounts. And at that point, he could solicit outside offers (that Indy would have a right to match), and be eligible to sign a salary starting at anything up to his league maximum salary (25% of the salary cap), as opposed to his current extension limits of signing up to 140% of the league average salary.

Scoot,... do you know if there are any plans to update Larry Coons CBA website to the new CBA?.... It was apparently last revised in 2022 with the 23 projections?...

Larry had said that after the CBA was signed and ratified he would work on updates.

But for simplicity of the changes, I use this document a lot. I saved a copy to my Dropbox which is why I can do quickly respond to these related questions.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23796130-nba-cba-keypoints

[Scoot McGroot]

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[JMaster5K]

Correct on all accounts. And at that point, he could solicit outside offers (that Indy would have a right to match), and be eligible to sign a salary starting at anything up to his league maximum salary (25% of the salary cap), as opposed to his current extension limits of signing up to 140% of the league average salary.

Scoot,... do you know if there are any plans to update Larry Coons CBA website to the new CBA?.... It was apparently last revised in 2022 with the 23 projections?...

Larry had said that after the CBA was signed and ratified he would work on updates.

But for simplicity of the changes, I use this document a lot. I saved a copy to my Dropbox which is why I can do quickly respond to these related questions.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23796130-nba-cba-keypoints

Thank you.

been looking stuff up in the actual agreement,....

[Scoot McGroot]

Scoot,... do you know if there are any plans to update Larry Coons CBA website to the new CBA?.... It was apparently last revised in 2022 with the 23 projections?...

Larry had said that after the CBA was signed and ratified he would work on updates.

But for simplicity of the changes, I use this document a lot. I saved a copy to my Dropbox which is why I can do quickly respond to these related questions.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23796130-nba-cba-keypoints

Thank you.

been looking stuff up in the actual agreement,....

Oh! Oh no! Don’t do that!