2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[PhilBlackson]

Dunn, at 6 foot 8, might be the single best defensive player in the draft. He can play NBA minutes right away defensively. He can guard most NBA positions and he has a combination of being a rim protector along with being a playmaker defensively on the perimeter.

So, what’s Dunn’s issue? As good as he is defensively, that’s about as non-impactful as he was offensively in college.

According to league sources, Dunn worked out for the Jazz this week and went primarily against Purdue star big man Zach Edey. In assessing Dunn, the Jazz will have to project whether he can play offense at an NBA level and whether he can shoot at an NBA level. If they want to draft him, where do they draft him? If they take him at 10, it’s going to be too high, on paper. That being said, he doesn’t project to be available at picks No. 29 or No. 32.

There are several players who the Jazz have to evaluate, which is one of the reasons they are casting a wide net in terms of draft workouts. League sources say Edey, Salaun and Tyler Kolek, among others, visited Utah this week. But there are a lot of players in this draft who are like Dunn, in terms of having one skill that stands out, but having to project the rest of their skill sets is what will make this draft unpredictable and fascinating.

Raptors are going to need to jump Utah (*ahem MEM) if they want "their guy".

[WuTang_CMB]

The #Spurs have a draft candidate who has been openly campaigning to join them. Kentucky guard Rob Dillingham who has been dropping on many mock drafts after his agency Klutch Sports has been reportedly “hiding him,” according to one connected draft insider.
"While some around the league don't view Dillingham as a 'Spursy' type of pick based on their drafting track record, he has been openly campaigning to be picked by San Antonio," Givony wrote on Friday. "There'd be no questions about how he'd view the team hierarchy if the Spurs pair him with Wembanyama. At the NBA draft combine in Chicago, Dillingham said, 'He could be one of the best players ever. If I'm playing with Wemby, it's obvious -- I am coming in to give Wemby the ball.'"
We know that there are many Spurs fans who love the idea of seeing Dillingham in a Spurs uniform, but he doesn’t seem to have either the height nor defensive skill set that San Antonio appears to be targeting.

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[Mark_83]

I guess we’re both crazy because Kawhi is the first guy that came to mind for me as well when I saw him. We know he won’t be anything close to the Klaw, but even a poor man’s version would be epic.

I also agree on trading down, but I don’t trust our front office to get into the draft since they’ve rarely seen the value in it.

It's the huge hands, long wingspan, and the methodical pace at which he moves. He's also so strong. Guys just bounce off him when he drives.

I’d definitely risk the injury history just to see what happens if we pick him. If he played against better competition he’d probably be an easy first rounder, and without the injuries he might even be a lottery…top 10 ish pick.

I'm down. Find some way to get him. We have one of the best medical teams in the NBA. Dude even sounds like Kawhi with his baritone voice and monotone speaking style.

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[WuTang_CMB]

Wow. Didnt think George would get one

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[WuTang_CMB]

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[PoundTown]

I guess we’re both crazy because Kawhi is the first guy that came to mind for me as well when I saw him. We know he won’t be anything close to the Klaw, but even a poor man’s version would be epic.

I also agree on trading down, but I don’t trust our front office to get into the draft since they’ve rarely seen the value in it.

It's the huge hands, long wingspan, and the methodical pace at which he moves. He's also so strong. Guys just bounce off him when he drives.

Yo this dude could be a gem, good advanced metrics too.

Given the Scottie connection, his advanced metrics, and his overall feel for the game, if I had to bet who Raps were taking with a gun to my head at 31, it'd be Mogbo. Reports are that he's shooting it a bit better and I could see them betting on that, because if true, and he can hit a corner 3 at a good clip, he will become a useful player. An energy player that provides rebounding, defence, doesn't need the ball and his passing may be akin to a Thad Young type. He also has some pretty big time open floor potential, already showing he can push it a bit.

Looks like a fun player, but the 3 ball is definitely the swing skill. FT% greatly improved in course of one year. Probably, doesn't project to be a great 3 point player, but for example, PJ Tucker refused to shoot 3s and played like a big his first year in the league, and once he realized he needed that in his game, and dedicated himself to the 3 ball, he actually became a guy that shot it at a pretty high level, wouldn't say elite, but he could definitely hurt you from the corner and needed to be respected from there. Before Mogbo transferred to D1, he probably dominated on physicality and it might've felt like it wasn't as needed, the same way PJ might've been happy to bully people inside as a college player until he showed up to league and realized that was no longer a possibility. Anyways, I have more failth in Mogbo becoming a competent offensive player than Dunn, who showed little improvement shooting the rock over the same period Mogbo has made some serious strides.

[alpngso]

Class move by Edey

[Syd-TK3]

That's 20 green room invites 21 if you include Edey declining.
Notable names not mentioned so far

Ware
De Silva
Holmes
Bub
Tyson

[WuTang_CMB]

Furphy has to have a promise. Passed a big NIL deal and now has a green room invite , think he goes top 15

[TNRaps4life]

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[TimeForChange]

I don't see Missi going in the first

[TimeForChange]

MIAMI — You would have to go back nearly two decades for the last time the Miami Heat routinely had a mountain of a man routinely manning their middle. As in Shaquille O’Neal.

But now, as the Heat move closer to the June 26 first round of the NBA draft, there is an eye on such a potential future. More correctly, there already has been such an eye cast, with Zach Edey among those who have worked out for the team.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2024/06/13/heat-pre-draft-workout-of-purdue-center-zach-edey-hints-at-potential-rare-turn-to-the-bulkier-side/

[DreamTeam09]

That's 20 green room invites 21 if you include Edey declining.
Notable names not mentioned so far

Ware
De Silva
Holmes
Bub
Tyson

I'll take anyone of these guys at 19, including Edey as well

[WuTang_CMB]

4 more coming

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[Syd-TK3]

That's 20 green room invites 21 if you include Edey declining.
Notable names not mentioned so far

Ware
De Silva
Holmes
Bub
Tyson

I'll take anyone of these guys at 19, including Edey as well

I agree except for edey lol but
Realistically I'm expecting 3 of these guys to replace 3 of the 20 green room guys on draft night. That's usually how it goes

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Ya, people are going to be a little surprised when Mogbo goes like 12th, Dillion Jones goes 15th and Bub goes 38.

This is a draft where teams won't mind "reaching" on certain guys they like because of how flat and unpredictable it is.

There are some signs that Carrington could surprise as he had 49/38/86 splits in HS. He's a good free throw shooter and had a very high 3PAr at Pitt so there's potential there. Then he clearly has advanced feel as a distributor for his age. When it comes to the defense what hurts him is his poor stock rates but I watched tape of him and he's actually a solid technical defender, he stays in front of his man and has decent closeout ability. There's a lot to like about Carrington but in order for him to overcome his lack of rim finishing and D efficiency he will either need to A: improve his stock rates a bit or B: become an absolute lights out scorer.

A is historically less likely but B is quite possible. I'm not sure if that will make him a 6th man or starter if he achieves it.

Bub seems like this year's Kobe Bufkin in terms of our fascinations. Ringer now saying Edey to the Lakers at 17. Raps take Collier and Tyson. If Raps got Collier and Tyson we'd all be saying that moving up was a ridiculous notion. I guess we can get a jump on that and talk 19n31. Again. I do think Collier is a great guard pick for upside and Tyson has some buzz but likely is a first round pick. I would take Walter (16th projected by the Ringer) or Collier but hey is all just another mock day.

I'm not super fascinated by him but I don't think he's a guy to write off. His efficiency for a young freshman is solid enough to believe he has a future in the NBA in some capacity but there is very little margin for error when it comes to him. I think he has what it takes to become a really dangerous shooter and secondary playmaker at the 2. He's too incompetent at the rim to be a lead guard IMO given he doesn't produce a ton in the stock dept or wow you in other areas of production.

All in all he's probably more of a really good bench scorer.

[Dalek]

Not all is about drafting by numbers and logic, sometimes it can be a good relationship or franchise guys calling the shots. Here is a few that I think will happen if the draft order stays the same:

Spurs 8 - Tidjane Salaun (best friends with Wemby)
Memphis 9 - Devin Carter (Dad: Anthony Carter is an assistant coach)
OKC 12 - Cody Williams (brothers united)
Sacramento 13 - Jared McCain (hometown boy)
Phi 16 - Yves Missi (from same hometown as Embiid)
LA 17 - Bronny James (Lebron's son)
Toronto 19 - Zach Edey (hometown boy)
NY 24 - Ryan Dunn (CAA client like half their team)
NY 25 - Kel'el Ware (CAA client like half their team)

Personally, I think LA would trade us 17 for 31 to save some money, but I am not sure what else would be involved.

[Landomar]

I think that Tyler Kolek is going to be a very good backup PG in the NBA. I'm not sure if I'd take him as high as 19, but in a draft filled with questionable upside, I don't hate the idea of just taking someone with a high floor.

[ArthurVandelay]

Might not be a sexy pick but Holmes at 19 would be fine by me

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

MIAMI — You would have to go back nearly two decades for the last time the Miami Heat routinely had a mountain of a man routinely manning their middle. As in Shaquille O’Neal.

But now, as the Heat move closer to the June 26 first round of the NBA draft, there is an eye on such a potential future. More correctly, there already has been such an eye cast, with Zach Edey among those who have worked out for the team.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2024/06/13/heat-pre-draft-workout-of-purdue-center-zach-edey-hints-at-potential-rare-turn-to-the-bulkier-side/

I think Edey can be a star in the NBA. Who is going to stop him? Edey the weapon is strong enough to make Edey the target irrelevant.

135 ORTG, 13.1 OBPM, .659 TS% w/ 33.4 USG

Who is going to stop him? He threw aside undersized centers and then curbstomped the big boy centers too. Edey is in a unique position to redefine how to win in the modern NBA according to mathematics as long as his physicality translates which every indication says it will and as long as a team takes the leap of faith to make him an offensive centerpiece as a post scorer.

The only thing that could possibly stop Edey is if he's a clumsy ass passer out of double teams. But I don't think that will be the case and he has reduced his TOV% every single year from 16.5% as a freshman to 10.8% as a senior.

If the 3 ball appears Edey is going to be a fap worthy player. Anyone who drafts him should be extremely excited to have him on their team.