Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)

[Hottie McShotty]

Discuss..

[Lateral Quicks]

Unless Horwitz is dead or his arm was amputated, there is no reason for him not to be in today's lineup.

Maybe he needed some extra work with Guillermo today. Guillermo can't like that he's hitting so well...

[JN]

Unless Horwitz is dead or his arm was amputated, there is no reason for him not to be in today's lineup.

Maybe he needed some extra work with Guillermo today. Guillermo can't like that he's hitting so well...

I'm OK with sitting him against a lefty. There will be a point later in the game where we can him bring in to replace somebody and it may be a key one.

Hopefully he is hiding from Guillermo.

[Randle McMurphy]

This team disgusts me.

[Hottie McShotty]

LOL, of course, IKF hits into a double play. This team just doesn't like to score any runs. I've never seen such a poor-hitting Blue Jays team, and I've been watching them for a long time now.

[Madvillainy2004]

At this point is Orlevis a worse DH option than Turner. He's been awful since April and he's soaking up all the DH at bats. I mean if we were a bit smarter we'd have Kirk catch more and DH Jano. So at least the weak hitting player provides elite defense.

[Randle McMurphy]

At this point is Orlevis a worse DH option than Turner. He's been awful since April and he's soaking up all the DH at bats. I mean if we were a bit smarter we'd have Kirk catch more and DH Jano. So at least the weak hitting player provides elite defense.

Kirk/Jansen should definitely be in there every day at this point. We're also regularly playing a washed RF with a .580 OPS in mid June. Any team that cares about winning wouldn't be doing any of this.

[Ranger One]

At this point is Orlevis a worse DH option than Turner. He's been awful since April and he's soaking up all the DH at bats. I mean if we were a bit smarter we'd have Kirk catch more and DH Jano. So at least the weak hitting player provides elite defense.

Kirk/Jansen should definitely be in there every day at this point. We're also regularly playing a washed RF with a .580 OPS in mid June. Any team that cares about winning wouldn't be doing any of this.

We may not like it, but they are not benching a guy making 25 million a year. If he was some random bum making 3-5 mil a year he would have been out of the lineup 30 games ago. Sadly, Springers veteran experience and past accolades will keep him in the lineup even if hes hitting .100

Also, Springer provides above average defense in RF, so thats another reason hes not getting sat. Run prevention trumps all on this team.

[JN]

Crap.... as per Dan, there were 4 players in for special early bating practice today (Schneider, Bargar, Horwitz, Clement). Guillermo indoctrination time!

[Hottie McShotty]

At this point is Orlevis a worse DH option than Turner. He's been awful since April and he's soaking up all the DH at bats. I mean if we were a bit smarter we'd have Kirk catch more and DH Jano. So at least the weak hitting player provides elite defense.

Kirk/Jansen should definitely be in there every day at this point. We're also regularly playing a washed RF with a .580 OPS in mid June. Any team that cares about winning wouldn't be doing any of this.

and to think we have this guy for another 2 more years.

[Randle McMurphy]

At this point is Orlevis a worse DH option than Turner. He's been awful since April and he's soaking up all the DH at bats. I mean if we were a bit smarter we'd have Kirk catch more and DH Jano. So at least the weak hitting player provides elite defense.

Kirk/Jansen should definitely be in there every day at this point. We're also regularly playing a washed RF with a .580 OPS in mid June. Any team that cares about winning wouldn't be doing any of this.

and to think we have this guy for another 2 more years.

He'll be DFA'd long before those 2 years are up. Probably at some point next year.

[Randle McMurphy]

At this point is Orlevis a worse DH option than Turner. He's been awful since April and he's soaking up all the DH at bats. I mean if we were a bit smarter we'd have Kirk catch more and DH Jano. So at least the weak hitting player provides elite defense.

Kirk/Jansen should definitely be in there every day at this point. We're also regularly playing a washed RF with a .580 OPS in mid June. Any team that cares about winning wouldn't be doing any of this.

We may not like it, but they are not benching a guy making 25 million a year. If he was some random bum making 3-5 mil a year he would have been out of the lineup 30 games ago. Sadly, Springers veteran experience and past accolades will keep him in the lineup even if hes hitting .100

Also, Springer provides above average defense in RF, so thats another reason hes not getting sat. Run prevention trumps all on this team.

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[Lateral Quicks]

Crap.... as per Dan, there were 4 players in for special early bating practice today (Schneider, Bargar, Horwitz, Clement). Guillermo indoctrination time!

Oh FFS.

[Ranger One]

Kirk/Jansen should definitely be in there every day at this point. We're also regularly playing a washed RF with a .580 OPS in mid June. Any team that cares about winning wouldn't be doing any of this.

We may not like it, but they are not benching a guy making 25 million a year. If he was some random bum making 3-5 mil a year he would have been out of the lineup 30 games ago. Sadly, Springers veteran experience and past accolades will keep him in the lineup even if hes hitting .100

Also, Springer provides above average defense in RF, so thats another reason hes not getting sat. Run prevention trumps all on this team.

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Yeah we both know this FO doesnt have the balls to do that. Christ, Springer is literally the TD mascot! As evidenced by the fact we are still subjected to his inane chair in outfield commercials 20 times a game.

[JN]

There's not much of a point in buying out George Springer right now.... we are not contending, and its not like there is significant players being held back by his playing. I'm fine with resting him more now though with Barger and Horwitz up.

In the likely scenario that we move some players at the deadline at this point, there will be even more PT around for some younger players. Springer will be fine as someone hanging around.

Hope he improves a bit, and he can fetch a little if you retain 80-90% of his contract. If not we will need some bodies anyeway.

[Randle McMurphy]

I can't fathom how anybody is still attending these games. It's difficult enough watching them on TV.

[Hottie McShotty]

Imagine being a pitcher for the Blue Jays, knowing that your offense will likely struggle to score more than 1 or 2 runs per game. Think about the pressure on you to pitch a perfect game just to have a chance to win. It must be demoralizing. I surely wouldn't want to be on a team like that.

[Madvillainy2004]

I can't fathom how anybody is still attending these games. It's difficult enough watching them on TV.

One of the most boring teams I've ever watched in any sport lol

[Brinbe]

looking like a 2 hour game tonight

[PowerPlant1]

LOL, of course, IKF hits into a double play. This team just doesn't like to score any runs. I've never seen such a poor-hitting Blue Jays team, and I've been watching them for a long time now.

Guardians 3 Bisons 1. Can we please call up more Bisons? I'd sooner see Nathan Lukes than Springer in the lineup.

IKF overall is not a problem since he is performing somewhat better than expected and has been pretty good in RISP situations. Problem is the hitting is so sparse that he is a key component on a putrid offense. IKF's OPS is 5th on the team and it is 680ish.

The problem is not IKF but rather his acquisition by a clueless general manager relying on 'internal improvements' to the offense.