MrDollarBills wrote:sikma42 wrote:CIN-C-STAR wrote:Speaking out against racism and misogyny is easy to do and I'm glad she did it.
It's the people acting like she's responsible for some idiot's comment on Reddit that bothers me. Why was she even asked these questions in the first place? It's pretty obvious she's never embraced racism or misogyny in her entire public life.
I don't search out idiotic takes on social media, and I doubt she does either, so why did they ask her about something she probably has no awareness of, especially if they couldn't give a specific example for her to respond to?
And then you have people right here in this thread talking about what a huge favor Carrington did for Clark by publicly misconstruing what Clark said, saying Clark said she isn't bothered by her name being used to promote racism and misogyny and xenophobia and more
Clark never said that. Not even close.
She said she hasn't seen much of what the reporter was asking her about, and she's focused on her job, which is to hoop, not on outside things that she can't control.
What a huge favor to imply Clark is OK with racism, misogyny and xenophobia IN HER NAME, when she never said that at all
Look, here's a dumb Tweet I found in two seconds saying that Clark getting straight white people interested in the WNBA is "horrifying," and she should retire:
"Caitlin Clark bringing all these straight white conservatives to the queerest and blackest sports league in the United States is horrifying.
She should quit. lol"
Should all the non-heterosexual, non-white women in the WNBA be asked about this? Should we assume they are also horrified by straight white people attending their games, since someone who vaguely looks like them and is their fan said these things online?
Should they have to condemn these comments?
No, because that would be insulting to them to assume they are as idiotic as their worst fans.
And it's insulting to Clark too.
And it's insulting to go on X and inaccurately claim that Clark said she wasn't bothered by people using her name to promote racism and misogyny.
Want to address that tweet. Not even the equivocation but the substance of the tweet. Because if this is the best example then you should do better. But yes, the tweet is shining light on the fact that lots of straight conservative men (many who were against the right to gay marriage, and were against Roe) are being brought into this sport (likely the most progressive sport), and it’s scary for the queer and black folks there. There is some intersectionality missing here bc many black men are at the forefront of this hatred against black men.
Yes, it is likely scary for these women. They should be worried (no one should have to deal with racial abuse like European soccer - especially when most make less random office workers). So agree or not, but imo you have to do a bit better.
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Thank you. The fact that dude had the audacity to use that tweet to prove a point shows me everything that I needed to know and literally reconfirms that the person who wrote that tweet is absolutely right to fear conservative men/far right culture warriors/nazis, whatever you wanna call these sh*t bags, entering these spaces. Why? Because people like OP do not care what happens to them.
The last Liberty game I went to the majority of the people there were women/girls/persons of all ethnicities and openly LGBTQ people. That game was a literal safe space for underserved and unprotected groups. Myself as a straight Black man, i was mindful of that and considered myself a guest in the building and I acted accordingly. That was and -is- their space. And while I had a sh*t ton of fun, and the folks who were seated around us were awesome and very chill, I can totally understand the fear of women and queer folks over what can happen when bad faith hostile actors begins entering these spaces.
"Caitlin Clark bringing all these straight white conservatives to the queerest and blackest sports league in the United States is horrifying.
She should quit. lol"
"She should quit LOL" isn't meant to be taken literally. It's meant to be taken as a sign of fear that her personality cult is going to cause irreparable harm at one of these events, and by CC's initial refusal to condemn these losers, she was not helping. At all. These men are violent, vile people who want to start civil unrest and social upheaval under the banner of white ethno nationalism, and they look for soft targets to prey upon. The poster of that tweet is SPOT on.
No one here ever said that CC supports racism or bigotry but there is the responsibility for her to ensure that she makes it known that she does not condone people using her name to push a hate fueled political agenda that targets minorities, women and queer/trans people. Nor did Dijonai misconstrue anything that she said. CC's first answer was unacceptable and she got checked for it. Her second answer was correct. I just wish she said this without being prompted.
Either way...dude needs to do better. If he really wants to, that is, because I sense an air of disingenuous behavior throughout his entire post.
Saying I don't care what happens to racial minorities or gay folks? Go eff yourself dude. I've never said anything remotely racist or homophobic here or elsewhere, and have been an ally my entire life.
If you could just block me or stop replying to my posts, that'd be great, because every time you've done so has been to slander me and attack my character, based on nothing.
And if you think it's fine to portray entire groups of people as scary or bad because some people in that group may hold certain beliefs, maybe you're the one that needs to look in the mirror instead of pointing fingers. There is research showing significantly higher levels of homophobia and antisemitism among black americans than among white americans, for example, but I would NEVER say it's ok to disparage all black americans as bad or scary, would you?
If the Tweet was the exact same but instead said Angel Reese should retire because she is bringing in too many black fans, would you defend it because black people are more homophobic?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2974805/Hell no you wouldn't, nor should you. If the problem is homophobia (or sexism, or racism, etc.), then just say that and leave the racial stereotypes out of it. They aren't helpful if the goal is to recognize each other as human beings first and foremost, and as we all know, homophobes come in all races and colors.
And btw, Clark didn't "refuse to condemn" violence or white ethno-nationalism or whatever you're talking about. That's you making stuff up again.
The question she was posed was not even about a specific statement or person. It was a vague question, and that's why she gave a vague answer about not really knowing much about it and being focused on her job.
You're acting like she was specifically asked about NAZIs or something and was like, "Yeah I don't know everyone is entitled to their opinion" lol. It's not her job to police the internet and condemn all the bad things white people say online, and it's hard to condemn something when you've not even been told what it is that you're supposed to be condemning.
It was click-bait journalism, asking a vague question without context and then nitpicking the answer. Unfortunately, we live in a time when people can't help but take the bait I guess.
Carrington being a prime example, with her "oh so Clark isn't bothered by being used to promote racism" lie that you echoed and said was a favor to Clark lmao.
