2024 Draft Thread - Part II

[closg00]

If Portland offered 7 and 14 for the 2nd pick I would take it without hesitation regardless of what Atlanta does.

Who do you take at 7 and 14?

[nate33]

This would be my ideal scenario.
Atlanta takes Sarr
San Antonio trades up to 2 for Risacher, giving up 4 and 8 and 34, and the Wiz give them 2, 26, and 51.
Portland trades up to 4 for Clingan and trades 7 and 14 for 4 and 34.
That would leave the Wizards with 7,8, and 14.

At 7 and 8 I would be looking at Dillingham, Holland, Buzelis.
At 14---Collier, Dadiet, Edey, Topic.

Obviously it's not going to happen but that would be a nice talent infusion while not impacting the critical 24-25 tank season.
Alternatively, only do one of the deals and trade Kuzma for a mid first round pick.

This is the way/make it so/may it be so.

I'm fine with that.

But I'm also fine with just doing the San Antonio trade and taking Sheppard and Holland at 4 and 8. Then trade Kuzma for whatever we can get, ideally including a 2025 FRP.

I'd also trade the #2 to San Antonio for #4 and a 2025 FRP. I might even accept #2 for #8 and a 2025 FRP if that FRP is the best of San Antonio's 4 picks (with top 4 protection).

[tontoz]

If Portland offered 7 and 14 for the 2nd pick I would take it without hesitation regardless of what Atlanta does.

Who do you take at 7 and 14?

At 14 i think Kel'el Ware might be a good pick. Unlike Sarr he doesn't shy away from contact. There are motor concerns about him but those are primarily from his freshman year. He was good this year and measured/tested well at the combine. Standing reach 9"4.5. Holmes and Missi are options there as well. So is McCain.

At 7 it just depends on who falls to us. There should be good options there.

[closg00]

In a trade down scenario using The Ringers mock, I would have a radical draft:
7 - Edey/Ware
14 - Holland
26 - The best of whoever drops
https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

[gesa2]

This would be my ideal scenario.
Atlanta takes Sarr
San Antonio trades up to 2 for Risacher, giving up 4 and 8 and 34, and the Wiz give them 2, 26, and 51.
Portland trades up to 4 for Clingan and trades 7 and 14 for 4 and 34.
That would leave the Wizards with 7,8, and 14.

At 7 and 8 I would be looking at Dillingham, Holland, Buzelis.
At 14---Collier, Dadiet, Edey, Topic.

Obviously it's not going to happen but that would be a nice talent infusion while not impacting the critical 24-25 tank season.
Alternatively, only do one of the deals and trade Kuzma for a mid first round pick.

This is the way/make it so/may it be so.

If our FO pulls this off, or gets a ‘25 pick without dropping past 7, we’d all lose our minds with glee

[The Consiglieri]

FWIW, YODA ranks Matas as a 2nd rounder

The strongest I've ever felt about not taking a player. Was Jan Vesley. Matas is around that level.

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Not a good sign when the plusses listed are "Dunks and more dunks".

[dckingsfan]

If Portland offered 7 and 14 for the 2nd pick I would take it without hesitation regardless of what Atlanta does.

Who do you take at 7 and 14?

Who is going to be drafted 1-6?

[9 and 20]

I don't really understand why Edey is so far down in the first round. If one of the playoffs caliber teams picks him up, he'll immediately come in and play 10-15 really impactful minutes if he's used correctly. I get that he may not be a guy you can build around, but if the team is already good, he should fit right in.

[payitforward]

If Portland offered 7 and 14 for the 2nd pick I would take it without hesitation regardless of what Atlanta does.

Me too. Without a doubt.
But Portland is unlikely to make such a rich offer. I think they'd want our 26 too.

That's asking too much. Our 3 picks for their 4 picks would work, IMO; in fact, it would be ideal.

[closg00]

If Portland offered 7 and 14 for the 2nd pick I would take it without hesitation regardless of what Atlanta does.

Who do you take at 7 and 14?

Who is going to be drafted 1-6?

Take a look at the link above

[tontoz]

I don't really understand why Edey is so far down in the first round.

Teams watch film and when they look at his defense they are like

It is funny how other players get criticized routinely for their defense but if I bring up Edey's defense here comes the excuse festival.

[dckingsfan]

Who do you take at 7 and 14?

Who is going to be drafted 1-6?

Take a look at the link above

Ringer? If so we can get Topic and Holland?

[closg00]

Who is going to be drafted 1-6?

Take a look at the link above

Ringer? If so we can get Topic and Holland?

I was riffing off the trade down discussion where we get Portlands’s 7/14 and used this mock draft, I will probably change my mind another 10 times
https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

[payitforward]

This would be my ideal scenario.
Atlanta takes Sarr
San Antonio trades up to 2 for Risacher, giving up 4 and 8 and 35, and the Wiz give them 2, 26, and 51....

(...changed 34 to 35 -- wch is what SA actually has)
That's a significant overpay by SA.

Portland trades up to 4 for Clingan and trades 7 and 14 for 4 and 35.

That's a significant overpay by Portland

That would leave the Wizards with 7,8, and 14.

Wch we got for 2, 26 & 51 !!

It is my profound hope to get 7, 14 , 34 & 40 for our 3 picks. Don't think there's any chance to do better than that -- & even that would require Portland to be in love w/ someone at 2.

[dckingsfan]

It is my profound hope to get 7, 14 , 34 & 40 for our 3 picks. Don't think there's any chance to do better than that -- & even that would require Portland to be in love w/ someone at 2.

Count me in. And yes, the trade only happens if there is someone Portland loves at 2. And also no one that our FO loves at 2.

So, low probability - but hey, this part is fun with only a few days left until the draft.

[payitforward]

To hope for: https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/276094/Spurs-Have-Discussed-Trading-For-No-1-Pick-With-Expectation-Of-Drafting-Zaccharie-Risacher

Sarr is a higher value player IMO.

[leswizards]

I don't really understand why Edey is so far down in the first round.

Teams watch film and when they look at his defense they are like

It is funny how other players get criticized routinely for their defense but if I bring up Edey's defense here comes the excuse festival.

Because almost all the things you criticize him for are minor things that can easily be fixed with good coaching (and are far eaier to correct than some of the defects in other potential lottery picks).

Also, you never seem to acknowledge how good Purdue’s defense was with him on the court. I’m mean, what are we supposed to believe: Purdue had 4 elite defenders that made up for Zach awful defense or having a 7’5” center makes many teams hesitant to shoot.

[tontoz]

Because almost all the things you criticize him for are minor things that can easily be fixed with good coaching (and are far eaier to correct than some of the defects in other potential lottery picks).

Also, you never seem to acknowledge how good Purdue’s defense was with him on the court. I’m mean, what are we supposed to believe: Purdue had 4 elite defenders that made up for Zach awful defense or having a 7’5” center makes many teams hesitant to shoot.

I don't think giving up layups is a minor thing for a center. These clips are just from the first half of the championship game where he had no fouls. He didn't pick up his first foul until the 2nd half.

I would think he would be willing to contest shots to win a national title. This is pathetic.

He was the player of the year last season but was still projected as a second round pick. I have no doubt this is why.

He was a senior, not a freshman.

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[gambitx777]

The mock are all over the place. I've seen dillingham at 5 and dillingham at 26

I've seen filposki at 12 and fliposki in the second round.

My only issue with trading back is that I think Sheppard is the dude. I don't know how far that guy's gonna realistically fall. He's the guy you look at after the big athletic upside guys who don't really have the numbers and go this is probably the guy with he best actual basketball resume and tangible talent.

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[gesa2]

The mock are all over the place. I've seen dillingham at 5 and dillingham at 26

I've seen filposki at 12 and fliposki in the second round.

My only issue with trading back is that I think Sheppard is the dude. I don't know how far that guy's gonna realistically fall. He's the guy you look at after the big athletic upside guys who don't really have the numbers and go this is probably the guy with he best actual basketball resume and tangible talent.

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So you would take Sheppard at 2 over Sarr (or anyone else)?
I like Sheppard a lot but would take Sarr first.