Wizards/Magic

[arusinov]

He's better than Kuz and Poole all things considered sure, but Tyus and cap space have more value to me

Better than Poole last year, absolutely, but who wasn't? Better peak than Poole In GS, no. Better than Kuzma, also no. Kuz shoots too much for his ability (as does Anthony) but does more things other than shooting and adds versatility as well.

Yeah, it's ludicrous to argue that Anthony is better than Kuzma. There isn't a team in the league that would take Anthony over Kuzma. Kuzma scores a lot more on the same efficiency, with the same assists, more rebounds, and the ability to be a multi-position defender who is a factor in help defense. Kuzma starts on at least half the teams in this league, and probably closer to two-thirds. Anthony wouldn't start on 5 teams.

Ultimately, size matters... a lot. Neither guy is an efficient scorer, but teams will definitely take the 6-9 guy over the 6-2 guy.

I would also say that while he was better than Poole for the season (which is not surprising given how horrible first half of season Poole was), the second half of the season Poole employed as ball handler was better than Anthony.

[Skybox]

Yeah, it's ludicrous to argue that Anthony is better than Kuzma. There isn't a team in the league that would take Anthony over Kuzma. Kuzma scores a lot more on the same efficiency, with the same assists, more rebounds, and the ability to be a multi-position defender who is a factor in help defense. Kuzma starts on at least half the teams in this league, and probably closer to two-thirds. Anthony wouldn't start on 5 teams.

Ultimately, size matters... a lot. Neither guy is an efficient scorer, but teams will definitely take the 6-9 guy over the 6-2 guy.

I think u guys skimmed through the "all things considering " piece I mentioned. That encompasses contract and self awareness as it relates to understanding limitations and talent. Someone who doesn't can truly be detrimental to their team's success. And the 3 worst guys in that category in the entire league are Poole, Ayton, and Kuzma

Uh huh. And what metric are using to determine this? Last time I checked, all three of those "detrimental" players have rings, so I'd like to see what objectifiable metric you used to come to this conclusion.

Only ring Ayton has is in his bathtub

[daoneandonly]

I think u guys skimmed through the "all things considering " piece I mentioned. That encompasses contract and self awareness as it relates to understanding limitations and talent. Someone who doesn't can truly be detrimental to their team's success. And the 3 worst guys in that category in the entire league are Poole, Ayton, and Kuzma

Uh huh. And what metric are using to determine this? Last time I checked, all three of those "detrimental" players have rings, so I'd like to see what objectifiable metric you used to come to this conclusion.

Only ring Ayton has is in his bathtub

Yea when exactly did Ayton win one?

Poole and Kuz each had generational superstar players/leaders counteract their garbageness. Ayton didn't

[Dat2U]

Better than Poole last year, absolutely, but who wasn't? Better peak than Poole In GS, no. Better than Kuzma, also no. Kuz shoots too much for his ability (as does Anthony) but does more things other than shooting and adds versatility as well.

Yeah, it's ludicrous to argue that Anthony is better than Kuzma. There isn't a team in the league that would take Anthony over Kuzma. Kuzma scores a lot more on the same efficiency, with the same assists, more rebounds, and the ability to be a multi-position defender who is a factor in help defense. Kuzma starts on at least half the teams in this league, and probably closer to two-thirds. Anthony wouldn't start on 5 teams.

Ultimately, size matters... a lot. Neither guy is an efficient scorer, but teams will definitely take the 6-9 guy over the 6-2 guy.

I think u guys skimmed through the "all things considering " piece I mentioned. That encompasses contract and self awareness as it relates to understanding limitations and talent. Someone who doesn't can truly be detrimental to their team's success. And the 3 worst guys in that category in the entire league are Poole, Ayton, and Kuzma

And two of those guys were key pieces for their respective teams in winning a championship, so they can't be all that detrimental to their team's success.