**NBA Draft Discussion 2024 2.0**

[Beenie]

I'm not happy saying it - but I think this draft and the next few after this one will dictate if we're getting back to contending before 2030 or not. I can't overstate the importance of these drafts for this organiztion at this point of time.

I know many don't see it or don't care, don't take the draft very seriously and think it's somewhat meaningless. My view is that in our situation - with an aging star, free agency for stats practically dead, no young blue cheap talent on the roster - the draft is the main tool we can hope to use to propel us up - back to the contenders list.

We badly need to hit on a couple of gems this draft and next, because there's no outside stars coming to save us any time soon.

We've got a pretty good draft record the last 7 years. I've got no reason to think they won't come out with a couple of good players but we've gotta be realistic about the odds of getting a franchise changing player outside of the top 10.

And 1 or 2 undrafteds that I’m sure this board will be riveted by

[MettaWorldPanda]

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[lastb1ckman]

I am I the only one that's against drafting another wing unless they're a serious difference maker on offense? I know it's the most sought after position in the league, but there's a bunch out there and we always have a bunch on the team or in development. Go get a guard or big man for once to help either fix our offense or our size problems. Not the same limited 3&D wing over and over again.

[Wiltside]

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Ticks a lot of Heat pick boxes. Might be a surprise name that gets called earlier. Could easily be Caleb replacement.

I need to temper my reactions. Times I’ve been annoyed (Bam, Herro) have made me look stupid compared to times I’ve been ecstatic (Beasley, Winslow).

Trust our ability to find quality talent. We’ve done very well out of the mid first round of late.

[RexBoyWonder]

hopefully the separation of second round being held the day after the first round enables us to makes some extra moves, maybe get another pick in the 35-45 range if a player we liked drooped.

The vet minimum market isn't as lucrative for us ATM - being a non contender makes it hard to get those vets to come here. i like our chances better trying to add 22-23 YO in the second round and signing them on cheap long term contracts. There's always the chance somebody greatly outproduce his contract.

[DayofMourning]

I am I the only one that's against drafting another wing unless they're a serious difference maker on offense? I know it's the most sought after position in the league, but there's a bunch out there and we always have a bunch on the team or in development. Go get a guard or big man for once to help either fix our offense or our size problems. Not the same limited 3&D wing over and over again.

Every year theres a bunch of wings available. Everyone is always looking for the big or the point mixed in.

I see a massive need for Bam help in the post. Get Bam a helping hand for goodness sake.

[twix2500]

hopefully the separation of second round being held the day after the first round enables us to makes some extra moves, maybe get another pick in the 35-45 range if a player we liked drooped.

The vet minimum market isn't as lucrative for us ATM - being a non contender makes it hard to get those vets to come here. i like our chances better trying to add 22-23 YO in the second round and signing them on cheap long term contracts. There's always the chance somebody greatly outproduce his contract.

The Heat are still contenders if healthy. I am now officially on the boat for Isaiah Collier. The let's see who falls in the second and as UDFA. I believe Carter is top ten and out of range. I think keep an eye on Edey, especially if he falls to the second

PG: Rozier - Collier - Williams
SG: Butler - Herro - Richardson
SF: Jaquez - Robinson
PF: Jovic -
Ce: Adebayo - Love - Bryant - Robinson

[lastb1ckman]

I am I the only one that's against drafting another wing unless they're a serious difference maker on offense? I know it's the most sought after position in the league, but there's a bunch out there and we always have a bunch on the team or in development. Go get a guard or big man for once to help either fix our offense or our size problems. Not the same limited 3&D wing over and over again.

Every year theres a bunch of wings available. Everyone is always looking for the big or the point mixed in.

I see a massive need for Bam help in the post. Get Bam a helping hand for goodness sake.

I don't know why so many nba fans are so fixated on wings. "You can never have too many wings." Is something I hear alot online. I say yes you can if they can't create reliably or you don't have anyone to give them the ball, or if they have to defend giants all the time.

[RexBoyWonder]

I am I the only one that's against drafting another wing unless they're a serious difference maker on offense? I know it's the most sought after position in the league, but there's a bunch out there and we always have a bunch on the team or in development. Go get a guard or big man for once to help either fix our offense or our size problems. Not the same limited 3&D wing over and over again.

Every year theres a bunch of wings available. Everyone is always looking for the big or the point mixed in.

I see a massive need for Bam help in the post. Get Bam a helping hand for goodness sake.

I don't know why so many nba fans are so fixated on wings. "You can never have too many wings." Is something I hear alot online. I say yes you can if they can't create reliably or you don't have anyone to give them the ball, or if they have to defend giants all the time.

totally agree.

2 way wings are valuable sure, but I'd argue a high level scoring/creating 3 level guard is just as valuable.

And a true big that can defend, pass and shot 3's might be more valuable.

That's why Ware, Filipowski and Holmes could become huge steals IF their 3 point shot is real.

[lastb1ckman]

Every year theres a bunch of wings available. Everyone is always looking for the big or the point mixed in.

I see a massive need for Bam help in the post. Get Bam a helping hand for goodness sake.

I don't know why so many nba fans are so fixated on wings. "You can never have too many wings." Is something I hear alot online. I say yes you can if they can't create reliably or you don't have anyone to give them the ball, or if they have to defend giants all the time.

totally agree.

2 way wings are valuable sure, but I'd argue a high level scoring/creating 3 level guard is just as valuable.

And a true big that can defend, pass and shot 3's might be more valuable.

That's why Ware, Filipowski and Holmes could become huge steals IF their 3 point shot is real.

Yeah all those types or guys on a team are valuable, because when the 3 ain't falling what else do you do? You gotta have guys that can attack the rim or work the post and mid range. Jimmy, Jaquez, maybe Rozier and Bam and Duncan can bring it, but not usually consistently.

[lastb1ckman]

I don't know why so many nba fans are so fixated on wings. "You can never have too many wings." Is something I hear alot online. I say yes you can if they can't create reliably or you don't have anyone to give them the ball, or if they have to defend giants all the time.

totally agree.

2 way wings are valuable sure, but I'd argue a high level scoring/creating 3 level guard is just as valuable.

And a true big that can defend, pass and shot 3's might be more valuable.

That's why Ware, Filipowski and Holmes could become huge steals IF their 3 point shot is real.

Yeah all those types or guys on a team are valuable, because when the 3 ain't falling what else do you do? You gotta have guys that can attack the rim or work the post and mid range. Jimmy, Jaquez, maybe Rozier and Bam and Duncan can bring it, but not usually consistently.

I'm particularly interested in Edey for this reason. Besides being a top end pick setter, finisher, rebounder, and post defender, his touch, skill and strength around rim would bail out the heat when the 3 isn't falling and put opposing bigs in foul trouble for once.

[twix2500]

This is why the Heat needs a true point guard with handles, not a small guard that just stands in the corner shooting threes. Collier has the ability to beat the press, double and traps without needing a screen.

[lastb1ckman]

What do yall think Ware's potential in the post? He definitely looks like he has good shooting potential, but from what I've seen he seems a bit weak in the post.

[DayofMourning]

totally agree.

2 way wings are valuable sure, but I'd argue a high level scoring/creating 3 level guard is just as valuable.

And a true big that can defend, pass and shot 3's might be more valuable.

That's why Ware, Filipowski and Holmes could become huge steals IF their 3 point shot is real.

Yeah all those types or guys on a team are valuable, because when the 3 ain't falling what else do you do? You gotta have guys that can attack the rim or work the post and mid range. Jimmy, Jaquez, maybe Rozier and Bam and Duncan can bring it, but not usually consistently.

I'm particularly interested in Edey for this reason. Besides being a top end pick setter, finisher, rebounder, and post defender, his touch, skill and strength around rim would bail out the heat when the 3 isn't falling and put opposing bigs in foul trouble for once.

I can get behind this. Of all the lineup problems weve caused for ourselves over the years, itd be nice to have an offensive advantage.

[twix2500]

If the Heat go with Tyler Smith. He will be a complete project. He is not a player who will likely play his rookie year like Jovic. He has tons of raw talent. If there is a player who is similar to Smith prototype is likely Rashard Lewis. I do not think he will be a center, however he needs to learn how to defend the wing. He has a lot to learn in general. He would likely be taught to be used on offense like Duncan Robinson. So somewhere in between Lewis and Robinson. But not a center. I do not know if he is a true scorer or just a shooter with cutting to basket finishes.

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[lastb1ckman]

If the Heat go with Tyler Smith. He will be a complete project. He is not a player who will likely play his rookie year like Jovic. He has tons of raw talent. If there is a player who is similar to Smith prototype is likely Rashard Lewis. I do not think he will be a center, however he needs to learn how to defend the wing. He has a lot to learn in general. He would likely be taught to be used on offense like Duncan Robinson. So somewhere in between Lewis and Robinson. But not a center. I do not know if he is a true scorer or just a shooter with cutting to basket finishes.

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Do you think his ceiling is higher than Jovic?

[Wiltside]

Topic/Carter/McCain/Collier

One of these guys will be there at 15.

[DayofMourning]

Topic/Carter/McCain/Collier

One of these guys will be there at 15.

Rank them by preference.

[IceColdCubano]

Topic/Carter/McCain/Collier

One of these guys will be there at 15.

Rank them by preference.

Topic/Carter/McCain/Collier The bolded RED remove. Make it a Big or Wing that will be available at that pick, I don't want anything to do with another small guard, if it hasn't been painstakingly obvious they don't generally ever have the upside to be a difference maker in a championship contender.

[Wiltside]

Topic/Carter/McCain/Collier

One of these guys will be there at 15.

Rank them by preference.

That was also my rank by preference. Although McCain and Carter are tied for me. Collier the last.