Donovan Clingan

[The Moose]

This is a great article on Clingan, albeit quite long.

https://www.nhregister.com/connecticutmagazine/news-people/article/donovan-clingan-uconn-men-s-basketball-18424508.php

But within it, it says Clingan has grown and measured at 7'3 barefoot this summer.

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We also have this from 3 years ago, when he was 16 yrs old and measuring at 7'2

7' sounds about right. Definitely not 7'2" or more though. I've seen him next to several bigs like sub 6'9" Timme, and supposed 7' guys like Ware and Dickinson to know he's very comparable, maybe a little bit taller. My guess is if they play Purdue in the final you'll see that Edey is easily a few inches taller. It won't be a mystery much longer. Combine is coming up!

Yeah, honestly I don't believe the 7'3 barefoot rumor at all. That would put him at Edey's height, and he isn't that size.

To me he's basically the same height as Kalkbrenner, when they matched up recently they looked pretty close to identical height. Kalkbrenner was at the combine last year and measured 7'0.75 barefoot. If I had to put money down, I would bet Clingan measures between 7'0.5-7'1 barefoot

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Good measurement day for Clingan, even taller than I suspected initially and 9'7 standing reach is Gobert level

[FarBeyondDriven]

7' sounds about right. Definitely not 7'2" or more though. I've seen him next to several bigs like sub 6'9" Timme, and supposed 7' guys like Ware and Dickinson to know he's very comparable, maybe a little bit taller. My guess is if they play Purdue in the final you'll see that Edey is easily a few inches taller. It won't be a mystery much longer. Combine is coming up!

Yeah, honestly I don't believe the 7'3 barefoot rumor at all. That would put him at Edey's height, and he isn't that size.

To me he's basically the same height as Kalkbrenner, when they matched up recently they looked pretty close to identical height. Kalkbrenner was at the combine last year and measured 7'0.75 barefoot. If I had to put money down, I would bet Clingan measures between 7'0.5-7'1 barefoot

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Good measurement day for Clingan, even taller than I suspected initially and 9'7 standing reach is Gobert level

looks like I was wrong but I still find it hard to believe. Maybe because he plays kinda hunched over it fools my lying eyes. Kareem was 7' 2" ffs. He just doesn't look like he's Kareem tall. I'm a cynic so part of me wonders if they're embellishing for the freak factor. But it could just be that when he actually forces himself to stand straight he's really that tall. It isn't functional height but technically he hits the mark. I've never been off by 2" so I'll remain skeptical but I'll take the reluctant L

[FrodoBaggins]

Clingan's measurements were good as was his shooting. Some of his speed, power, & agility test times were disappointing, though. I think Edey beat him in all of them - 3/4 court sprint, lane agility, vertical jump, etc. I'm not sure about the shuttle run, though. The lane agility was the biggest disappointment. Zach beat him by like an entire second which is a lot for a drill guys finish in 3-4 seconds typically.

[FarBeyondDriven]

Clingan's measurements were good as was his shooting. Some of his speed, power, & agility test times were disappointing, though. I think Edey beat him in all of them - 3/4 court sprint, lane agility, vertical jump, etc. I'm not sure about the shuttle run, though. The lane agility was the biggest disappointment. Zach beat him by like an entire second which is a lot for a drill guys finish in 3-4 seconds typically.

I just don't know what to do with either Clingan or Edey. There's really not a lot of great centers after the top 10 and both are going to either start or play a decent amount of minutes. They're better center prospects than guys like Okongwu, WCj, Hayes, Duren and Williams and they went in/around the lottery. And they're better than the dozens of absolute stiffs at center that went in the late first these past several years. So why am I struggling to place them higher? I have internal biases I have to sort out

[jfs1000d]

Clingan a monster defensive player. I think DPOY level impact. Worst case Brook Lopez on defense which i think is a great floor.

Ceiling is what we’re don’t know. Offensive game rudimentary, but he can pass, rim run, potentially has a nice looking shot.

Did i tell you he was big?

Edey, I liked 2 and should go lottery. He isn’t a defensive prospect like Clingan, but he is an elite scorer efficiency wise. I have hard time believing a team can’t use him in the mid lottery.


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[King Ken]

I find this kid to be unique. Like, maybe there could be star potential, idk. Just not enough self creation but it's not like he has none.

My comps for Clingan

Divac - upper body excellent strength, passing, and post up offense. Also lower body strength weakness

Prime Mason Plumlee - Stamina issues, going balls out every possession, athletic and always finding blind spots in the defense off the ball.

Prime Clint Capela - Excellent screener, exceptional read IQ, should be better finishers in the PnR and on put backs than they are.

Shades of Noah - His impact on winning matches Noah and no one since Noah has that. He also ranks exceptionally high on offensive impact like Noah without being a primary scorer.

D. Sabonis - He's not as good but you see a lot of similar playing style on offense with these two. Sabonis is just better offensively as a prospect. Defensively, the gap is extremely massive in Clingan favor.

[King Ken]

Dunno. Is there precedent for anybody improving their FT percentage?

There is plenty of precedent. But seems to me there is a practical cap on how much one can improve.

And if your starting place is 55% then even successful improvement probably ends up with that player as a bad to mediocre FT shooter.

He's at 57% on the season, 65% since the Big East final. Obviously bad numbers and as a UConn fan I wouldn't want him taking critical FTs, but if I was an NBA team drafting him I would not be looking at his FT shot as broken at all.

If he's a 70% shooter, which seems like a pretty attainable goal and is fine on low volume, there's no hack-a-thon, which means he can be on the court at the end of games.

I personally think all his issues revolve around conditioning and stamina. 99% of them. If you watch his form on FT. He looks like a 72% guy. Even shooting 3s, 35-36% guy. I think he's dog **** tired and he's missing FTs due to that. The touch doesn't look bad when he's patience.

[76ciology]

Will he be playable down the stretch in a playoff setting where defense can switch the ball screen and take their chances on him punishing smaller defenders and put him to the FT line

[JMAC3]

There is plenty of precedent. But seems to me there is a practical cap on how much one can improve.

And if your starting place is 55% then even successful improvement probably ends up with that player as a bad to mediocre FT shooter.

He's at 57% on the season, 65% since the Big East final. Obviously bad numbers and as a UConn fan I wouldn't want him taking critical FTs, but if I was an NBA team drafting him I would not be looking at his FT shot as broken at all.

If he's a 70% shooter, which seems like a pretty attainable goal and is fine on low volume, there's no hack-a-thon, which means he can be on the court at the end of games.

I personally think all his issues revolve around conditioning and stamina. 99% of them. If you watch his form on FT. He looks like a 72% guy. Even shooting 3s, 35-36% guy. I think he's dog **** tired and he's missing FTs due to that. The touch doesn't look bad when he's patience.

Dude plays 22 mpg, if he can't handle that no way he can he handle playing at a faster tempo in the NBA for longer mins. Especially since the shot clock is longer in college and he just mainly stood in the paint on both ends the majority of the time.
In the NBA he is going to have to sprint around the court screening

[King Ken]

He's at 57% on the season, 65% since the Big East final. Obviously bad numbers and as a UConn fan I wouldn't want him taking critical FTs, but if I was an NBA team drafting him I would not be looking at his FT shot as broken at all.

If he's a 70% shooter, which seems like a pretty attainable goal and is fine on low volume, there's no hack-a-thon, which means he can be on the court at the end of games.

I personally think all his issues revolve around conditioning and stamina. 99% of them. If you watch his form on FT. He looks like a 72% guy. Even shooting 3s, 35-36% guy. I think he's dog **** tired and he's missing FTs due to that. The touch doesn't look bad when he's patience.

Dude plays 22 mpg, if he can't handle that no way he can he handle playing at a faster tempo in the NBA for longer mins. Especially since the shot clock is longer in college and he just mainly stood in the paint on both ends the majority of the time.
In the NBA he is going to have to sprint around the court screening

Tempo isn't his issue, it's pace due to the fact that he goes ass out like Mason Plumlee used to do.

[Blazinaway]

Had a solid summer league, defense and rim protection looked very good, as expected offense will be a work in progress, happy wth the pick for Portland

[lastb1ckman]

Just looking at his footage and combine results, something confuses me. Why doesn't he have more lift? For the type of rim runner he is, he doesn't jump that high and struggles to finish sometimes. Its not even something that happens all the time either. Most of the time he looks the part, but others times he get blocked by the rim or struggles to dunk. Its weird, is it just because he was recovering from injury or does he just get tired fast at this point in his career?

[BlazersBroncos]

Just looking at his footage and combine results, something confuses me. Why doesn't he have more lift? For the type of rim runner he is, he doesn't jump that high and struggles to finish sometimes. Its not even something that happens all the time either. Most of the time he looks the part, but others times he get blocked by the rim or struggles to dunk. Its weird, is it just because he was recovering from injury or does he just get tired fast at this point in his career?

I would say both, but conditioning more so. It’s something he really needs to work on.

[JMAC3]

Blocking a lot of shots and fouling a lot. Averaging 7.4 fouls per36, that is highest in the NBA for players that have played at least 50 mins on the season.

[Blazinaway]

DC started last couple games, last game vs Minny he had best game yet with 17 pts, 12 rebs and EIGHT blocked shots in 31 minutes, he's started to adjust to NBA and his conditioning seems much improved, looking like a very good pick for Portland at 7, really helping our defense.