2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

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[BoyzNTheHood]

Dillon Jones, 22.6 years old, 6'4.5 without shoes, 6'11 wingspan, 236 lbs
37.0 MIN, 20.8 PPG, 9.8 REB, 5.2 AST, 2.0 STL, .489 FG, .324 3PT (3.4 ATT), .857 FT (6.8 ATT), .597 TS, 29.5 USG, 7.7 BPM


Keep coming back to this guy. He has an NBA body already and he creates turnovers, rebounds, passes and gets to the line (plus hits FTs) at a high level. Despite being a 4 year college player, he's not an old prospect. If the 3pt shot improves and it should because the form looks good and he's a great FT shooter, he's interesting all-around player to have off the bench.

He sort of reminds me of a poor man’s Cade. They have a lot of similarities in their style of play. But he leaves a lot to be desired. For instance, why hasn’t his shooting come around? I understand that he shoots free throws very well, but he’s almost 23 with years of experience at a lower level of college and is still a non-shooter. Also, against that level of competition NBA players would usually have a massive BPM, but he’s below 8. I say all of that to say, if he fails in the NBA it wouldn’t be a surprise.

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26. Washington Wizards (via Clippers)
Baylor Scheierman | 6-6 wing | 23 years old | Creighton
I’ve maintained a first-round grade on Scheierman since the end of the college basketball season. He averaged 18 points, nine rebounds and four assists while drilling a number of 3s off significant movement. He’s one of the best shooters in the class, with an extremely versatile motion that allows him to fire from distance off any kind of footwork. He’s a quick ball-mover and passer, and I think his defense is better than it gets credit for being. Go back and watch the team’s Sweet 16 game against Tennessee, where he held Knecht to 6-of-17 shooting from the field as the primary defender.

Scheierman has also had one of the better pre-draft processes of any player. He was the best player in the 5-on-5 portion of the NBA Draft Combine, impressing teams with his ability to fill multiple roles. I think he hears his name called in the first round at this point, as NBA teams generally see him as a player who can come in and help sooner rather than later.

Very good chance Scheierman outplays his draft slot. He's a lot more than your average shooting specialist which is what most people perceive him to be. I think he can be one of the better 4th/5th guys in your starting lineup in the NBA, like a lower volume Tyler Herro with better rebounding and scoring efficiency. His ability to ball gives him a solid chance at gelling with a talented and fast paced NBA team lacking a well-rounded scoring option and outlet.

[ciueli]

I know people won't like it .... but given this type of draft and losing OG/Siakam, I think Masai goes back to his DNA of drafting one of his architype guys and hopes to develop their shot (with at least one of these picks)

This is what I think. There's no good way to fill the biggest hole on this team (3+D wing) in free agency or with a trade, the only way they're getting that player is to draft him, but most of the best options will probably be gone by 19. DaSilva could still be on board but there's no guarantee and he's a 23 year old senior. If they want a player like Salaun, Cody Williams, or Ron Holland they have to move up.

[OakleyDokely]

Dillon Jones, 22.6 years old, 6'4.5 without shoes, 6'11 wingspan, 236 lbs
37.0 MIN, 20.8 PPG, 9.8 REB, 5.2 AST, 2.0 STL, .489 FG, .324 3PT (3.4 ATT), .857 FT (6.8 ATT), .597 TS, 29.5 USG, 7.7 BPM


Keep coming back to this guy. He has an NBA body already and he creates turnovers, rebounds, passes and gets to the line (plus hits FTs) at a high level. Despite being a 4 year college player, he's not an old prospect. If the 3pt shot improves and it should because the form looks good and he's a great FT shooter, he's interesting all-around player to have off the bench.

He sort of reminds me of a poor man’s Cade. They have a lot of similarities in their style of play. But he leaves a lot to be desired. For instance, why hasn’t his shooting come around? I understand that he shoots free throws very well, but he’s almost 23 with years of experience at a lower level of college and is still a non-shooter. Also, against that level of competition NBA players would usually have a massive BPM, but he’s below 8. I say all of that to say, if he fails in the NBA it wouldn’t be a surprise.

From what I've seen/read, the outside game wasn't as much of a focal point for him (which is reflected in his low attempts) because he was able to get to the rim and score there with efficiency. But at the NBA level, he will need to shoot it because getting to the rim against quicker, bigger players won't be as easy and the ball won't be in his hands nearly as much.

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26. Washington Wizards (via Clippers)
Baylor Scheierman | 6-6 wing | 23 years old | Creighton
I’ve maintained a first-round grade on Scheierman since the end of the college basketball season. He averaged 18 points, nine rebounds and four assists while drilling a number of 3s off significant movement. He’s one of the best shooters in the class, with an extremely versatile motion that allows him to fire from distance off any kind of footwork. He’s a quick ball-mover and passer, and I think his defense is better than it gets credit for being. Go back and watch the team’s Sweet 16 game against Tennessee, where he held Knecht to 6-of-17 shooting from the field as the primary defender.

Scheierman has also had one of the better pre-draft processes of any player. He was the best player in the 5-on-5 portion of the NBA Draft Combine, impressing teams with his ability to fill multiple roles. I think he hears his name called in the first round at this point, as NBA teams generally see him as a player who can come in and help sooner rather than later.

Very good chance Scheierman outplays his draft slot. He's a lot more than your average shooting specialist which is what most people perceive him to be. I think he can be one of the better 4th/5th guys in your starting lineup in the NBA, like a lower volume Tyler Herro with better rebounding and scoring efficiency. His ability to ball gives him a solid chance at gelling with a talented and fast paced NBA team lacking a well-rounded scoring option and outlet.

I don't see how Minny/Denver pass on him. I guess if someone else falls. I will be surprised if he's sitting there at 31.

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Very good chance Scheierman outplays his draft slot. He's a lot more than your average shooting specialist which is what most people perceive him to be. I think he can be one of the better 4th/5th guys in your starting lineup in the NBA, like a lower volume Tyler Herro with better rebounding and scoring efficiency. His ability to ball gives him a solid chance at gelling with a talented and fast paced NBA team lacking a well-rounded scoring option and outlet.

I don't see how Minny/Denver pass on him. I guess if someone else falls. I will be surprised if he's sitting there at 31.

He'd be amazing for Orlando at 18 as extra depth and competition with Jett Howard - they finished 29th in 3PA, 24th in 3P%, 26th in FT%, 25th in DRB, 28th in AST... he'd boost them in all those areas and provide balance to the team.

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Not a fan of the Walter pick, but Flip @ 31 is great value (I'm not the biggest believer in his upside, but tough to see how he fails). If the board falls this way I'd run to the podium to take Collier @ 19.

Walking away with Collier & Flip would change the entire outlook of this team.

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Very good chance Scheierman outplays his draft slot. He's a lot more than your average shooting specialist which is what most people perceive him to be. I think he can be one of the better 4th/5th guys in your starting lineup in the NBA, like a lower volume Tyler Herro with better rebounding and scoring efficiency. His ability to ball gives him a solid chance at gelling with a talented and fast paced NBA team lacking a well-rounded scoring option and outlet.

I don't see how Minny/Denver pass on him. I guess if someone else falls. I will be surprised if he's sitting there at 31.

Do we think he can kind of become what Max Strus is now? Size and skill profile seem to fit what Max gives you. Solid, hard nosed D, some movement shooting, and some strong secondary playmaking, and a decent all around offensive game, albeit without elite athletecism. Maybe his ceiling is a less streaky Max?

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Masai Bobbie - SURPRISE! SURPRISE!

I think Walter is too good to get to us 19. Filipowski with shooting won't make it to round 2. The Ringer are really trashing the value of McCain, Walter and Salaun but they are probably bang on about Zac. Good for him if true.

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It could be but teams that had him in for workouts already know. Utah won't take him in the lottery though...at least not where they are drafting. He'd late lottery to late first round... ~ 13-25ish range.

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Edey is going to perform that child abuse on a nightly basis in the NBA. He will father your favorite star centers, bring this guy back with a new sign

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It could be but teams that had him in for workouts already know. Utah won't take him in the lottery though...at least not where they are drafting. He'd late lottery to late first round... ~ 13-25ish range.

OKC / Miami going to take him

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[ciueli]

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But who was he matched up against in the workout? Maybe it was actually children which would explain everything.

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It could be but teams that had him in for workouts already know. Utah won't take him in the lottery though...at least not where they are drafting. He'd late lottery to late first round... ~ 13-25ish range.

OKC / Miami going to take him

Atlanta should take him if they trade Trae if not Washington should take him. Instead these teams are slobbering over a wing with underwhelming athleticism who isn't as long as people thought who has 0 ISO game, hardly any passing ability and has been a 70% free throw shooter over the past 3 years. It's delusion at its finest.

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is 48/100 in a workout setting considered good?

[DreamTeam09]

is 48/100 in a workout setting considered good?

No in theory it shouldn't be. NBA players say to divede you're practice shots in half to get your in game %.
Edey is going to be getting those, I dare you to shoot 3s tho, so for him making 48/100 3s should be something you may be able develop