2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

TimeForChange · Post #1901 » by **TimeForChange** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:30 pm

youreachiteach wrote:Brown and the 25 pick (unprotected) for DeAndre Hunter and the #1 2024? Then Draft Cody Williams!!

WTF

ForeverTFC · Post #1902 » by **ForeverTFC** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:33 pm

SpezNc wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Flat

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I think it should make the trade somewhat easier not harder .

Apparently teams outside and at the back end of the lottery are valuing a lottery pick this year as the 7th or 8th man on a roster, and feel there is little difference in terms of value in the front and back end.

If you're a team with a lottery pick and all you're getting offered is a bench player, you probably just make the pick, as for most of these teams - outside of a Houston or a Memphis - a bench player does nothing for their timeline.

ForeverTFC · Post #1903 » by **ForeverTFC** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:34 pm

TimeForChange wrote:
youreachiteach wrote:Brown and the 25 pick (unprotected) for DeAndre Hunter and the #1 2024? Then Draft Cody Williams!!

WTF

I would riot

TimeForChange · Post #1904 » by **TimeForChange** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:40 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:the guy who posted about Edey's 3 pt numbers and how his workout was a display of "child abuse" deleted his post

sounds like someone from the organization might have asked him to take it down TBH

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TimeForChange · Post #1905 » by **TimeForChange** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:41 pm

if dillingham and holland are falling out of the top-10 then Edey is definitely going top-10

TimeForChange · Post #1906 » by **TimeForChange** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:42 pm

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WuTang_CMB · Post #1907 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:46 pm

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Dalek · Post #1908 » by **Dalek** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:48 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
Dalek wrote:
alpngso wrote:Glad some like Ajay Mitchell. One of the guys i like at 31

I really like his potential but it is all about how he performs in a workout because his conference stunk and he rarely played good teams. My hope comes from the combine where he showed well amongst the real peers in his class.

I think the shooting translates and he was one of the better at self-creation in this class. He had 47 FTR, 28 AST% and 31 Usage so he took care of the ball and got to the basket. People will doubt his shot because it was low volume on threes. Given his size and ability, it is not impossible for him to be like a Andrew Nembhard type but it is a stretch.

Another player I really like at 31. He just seems to play the right way. I don’t think he’ll hurt you in the NBA. I’d say on the low end he’s Garrett Temple and on the high end he’s Derrick White. Not bad for the 2nd round imo

I am not sure his defense gets to any of those player's levels. In some ways he reminds me of Grant Riller who was such a great scorer but never translated, but I think Ajay will be good. He is kind of unusual being one of the rare Belgian prospects but Toumani Camera was great last year, so there is hope.

grant101 · Post #1909 » by **grant101** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:52 pm

Morse Code wrote:Not sure what people see in Collier. To me, he's a fast, strong guard that's short, has no vertical athleticism (which will limit his finishing in the NBA) and has a bad jumper. He doesn't even in playmaking either. A less athletic John Wall type is a guy that could be out of the league in a few years IMO. Leif Thulin and Richard Stayman think he's got bust written all over him as well.

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And there are an equal number of (IMO, better) analysts that think he's got all-star talent. He's far more than fast and strong. He is shifty with a great change of pace. Like i mentioned, he routinely gets by his man without a pick, and generates a ton of pressure on the defence. He gets to the rim routinely and either finishes or gets fouled at a very good rate (again, on a team with horrible spacing). He's a one-man offence.

Also, saying that he doesn't have playmaking just shows that you haven't really watched him play. He might be the best playmaker in the draft. A true pg in a draft with very few of them. His vision is elite. He can definitely get a little too ambitious with his passes (ala Scottie his first couple of years), but I'd rather he be a little too creative than not seeing the floor.

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #1910 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:54 pm

TimeForChange wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:the guy who posted about Edey's 3 pt numbers and how his workout was a display of "child abuse" deleted his post

sounds like someone from the organization might have asked him to take it down TBH

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I knew it.

The language he used was strong. Edey is a serious basketball talent.

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #1911 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:01 pm

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This guy is either a huge troll or his posts are all validating where I have guys on my big board

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #1912 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:02 pm

Scheierman is a lights out shooter when he's wide open so it doesn't surprise me. I made the call a while ago already but Scheierman > Knecht.

SpezNc · Post #1913 » by **SpezNc** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:03 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:
SpezNc wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Flat

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I think it should make the trade somewhat easier not harder .

Apparently teams outside and at the back end of the lottery are valuing a lottery pick this year as the 7th or 8th man on a roster, and feel there is little difference in terms of value in the front and back end.

If you're a team with a lottery pick and all you're getting offered is a bench player, you probably just make the pick, as for most of these teams - outside of a Houston or a Memphis - a bench player does nothing for their timeline.

Maybe not for a Roster player for a pick straight

But for a trade to move up or down a couple spots it should make stuff easier IMO

WuTang_CMB · Post #1914 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:08 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Scheierman is a lights out shooter when he's wide open so it doesn't surprise me. I made the call a while ago already but Scheierman > Knecht.

I would love to come out of this draft with both edey / baylor

PhilBlackson · Post #1915 » by **PhilBlackson** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:08 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:

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This guy is either a huge troll or his posts are all validating where I have guys on my big board

I'm not sure I'm ready to say he'll be better than Knecht BUT I like him A LOT that it wouldn't surprise me either.

Said it already (and I'm sure you obv feel the same) but I'd welcome taking him with the 18th. I don't think he'll be a star but he seems like a guaranteed solid rotation piece a la Podz, Jacquez (again guys I know you liked too lol). But out of every wing in our range (TDS, Tyson, Furphy)...I think BS (lol) would be the most seamless fit offensively AND possibly the most upside of the bunch. I really, really like the way he reads the bball court. Idk much about his defence but IQ, Dick & Bay would be a fantastic fit offensively.

ForeverTFC · Post #1916 » by **ForeverTFC** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:16 pm

SpezNc wrote:
ForeverTFC wrote:
SpezNc wrote:
I think it should make the trade somewhat easier not harder .

Apparently teams outside and at the back end of the lottery are valuing a lottery pick this year as the 7th or 8th man on a roster, and feel there is little difference in terms of value in the front and back end.

If you're a team with a lottery pick and all you're getting offered is a bench player, you probably just make the pick, as for most of these teams - outside of a Houston or a Memphis - a bench player does nothing for their timeline.

Maybe not for a Roster player for a pick straight

But for a trade to move up or down a couple spots it should make stuff easier IMO

If it's true that people think there is no difference between 10 and 20 and that 70% of the league are sellers, no one is going to offer much pre-draft just to move up a few spots. Maybe on draft day, we might see some movement with a 2nd round attached to get a team to move down.

BoyzNTheHood · Post #1917 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:26 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:

Read on Twitter

This guy is either a huge troll or his posts are all validating where I have guys on my big board

I don’t think he’s trolling. That kid can ball. Knecht is a good prospect too, but I prefer the guy who can do more than just score.

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #1918 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:27 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:

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This guy is either a huge troll or his posts are all validating where I have guys on my big board

I'm not sure I'm ready to say he'll be better than Knecht BUT I like him A LOT that it wouldn't surprise me either.

Said it already (and I'm sure you obv feel the same) but I'd welcome taking him with the 18th. I don't think he'll be a star but he seems like a guaranteed solid rotation piece a la Podz, Jacquez (again guys I know you liked too lol). But out of every wing in our range (TDS, Tyson, Furphy)...I think BS (lol) would be the most seamless fit offensively AND possibly the most upside of the bunch. I really, really like the way he reads the bball court. Idk much about his defence but IQ, Dick & Bay would be a fantastic fit offensively.

If Klay is going to Orlando it changes their depth up a bit since they then have Juwan's kid too but they are in such desperate need of capable scorers that they should double down even with Jett coming back.

Jett's rebounding improved a bit at the g-league level but he's still an atrocious rebounder for someone his size. He also had a 121.8 DRTG in the g-league last year, will his defense ever get to BS's level? I think Baylor would be really good competition, let them duke it out and may the best man win while the other can serve as a bench piece.

LoveMyRaps · Post #1919 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:41 pm

youreachiteach wrote:Brown and the 25 pick (unprotected) for DeAndre Hunter and the #1 2024? Then Draft Cody Williams!!

it's time to logout

Psubs · Post #1920 » by **Psubs** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:51 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:

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This guy is either a huge troll or his posts are all validating where I have guys on my big board

I don’t think he’s trolling. That kid can ball. Knecht is a good prospect too, but I prefer the guy who can do more than just score.

I think we should trust BS's 3pt shooting with his FT shooting. He should like 43-44% in a small conference transferred and shot high 30's in the tough Big East. Knecht has shot high 30's through out and his FT shooting is high 70's.

Knect is clearly a SG with an A/T of 1, whereas BS could be like a Bane SG/PG with an A/T of 1.77.