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Re: More Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#881 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:20 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:How about Nerlens Noel and Frank?

That's all the Knicks can afford, apparently
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Post#882 » by Richard4444 » Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:23 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:How about Nerlens Noel and Frank?


Taj, Knox, Dennis Smith Jr, and Ryan should be available as well.

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Re: More Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#883 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:26 am

Richard4444 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:How about Nerlens Noel and Frank?


Taj, Knox, Dennis Smith Jr, and Ryan should be available as well.

Super Mario may come back to the NBA. It looks like he has learned to shoot 3s...

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That would be a great 2nd unit. Sub in all 5 at once, Hubie Brown style
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Post#884 » by Richard4444 » Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:39 am

Jeffrey wrote:
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Some Jeremy"s takes.

- He is high on Okoro. He views Okoro as a great defender who is improving shots 3s. He thinks we can make a sign and trade with the Cavs (who need to control their costs due to Donovan"s and Mobley's potential max salary) in exchange for a SRP and MLE money.

- He is high on Rokas. He thinks he is tired of being a bench player in Barcelona and would accept a second-round salary to play around 15 minutes a game.

- He is optimistic about Precious accepting a 5M/y salary because he is a tweener who can not shoot.

- He is pessimistic about a rookie cracking into the rotation this year.

- He can see Washington trade Deni for relatively cheap (I disagree). But he does not trust his shooting entirely.

- He does not like Oubre. Bad shooter and a mediocre defender.

- He thinks Caruso is getting old and will demand a huge salary (around 20M/y) to be our 7th player. Besides, Chicago would not trade for a couple of our garbage picks.

- Monte Morris is a great shooter but he can not drive and his size would not fit next to Brunson.

- He thinks Hayward and Batum are too old; Tobias Harris will get better offers than MLE; Olynik is an awful defender; Looney would not want to be our third center; Derrick Jones is poor as an offensive player; Fontecchio" 's offer would be matched by Detroit (RFA).


Got to say no to Precious. A stretch 4 would be nice for his spot... oh wait thats Bojan Bodanovic.


If we get Okoro in a sign and trade, it would be hard to keep Bojan because we would be hard-capped in the first apron (178M) and with OG, IHart and Bojan, our payroll would hit 170M (9 players). If we are using the MLE to sign Okoro, we will have to waive Bojan. Otherwise, we surely would pass.
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Re: More Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#885 » by The KnicksFix » Tue Jun 18, 2024 3:01 am

The Knicks are so damn close, Boston made two huge moves this offseason, one with KP, the other with jrue. We dont need two moves, we need one more piece… if even that
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Post#886 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Jun 18, 2024 3:05 am

Richard4444 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:How about Nerlens Noel and Frank?


Taj, Knox, Dennis Smith Jr, and Ryan should be available as well.

Super Mario may come back to the NBA. It looks like he has learned to shoot 3s...

Once a Knick, always a Knick.

They have more of a chance of playing under Thibs than some late first round pick in a poor draft.
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Post#887 » by The KnicksFix » Tue Jun 18, 2024 3:13 am

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thebuzzardman wrote:Knicks are trading Bogs and picks for Markkanen


We need to strike and Markenen would be a big get. Bogs McBride and 4FRPs for Markenen. His salary is only 18.6 and won't qualify for a crazy super max contract after it expires


Who will leave the rotation? OG, Donte? I doubt Thibs would play Randle or Lauri as a Center.


Sixth or seventh man
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Re: More Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#888 » by Jeffrey » Tue Jun 18, 2024 3:26 am

Richard4444 wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:

Some Jeremy"s takes.

- He is high on Okoro. He views Okoro as a great defender who is improving shots 3s. He thinks we can make a sign and trade with the Cavs (who need to control their costs due to Donovan"s and Mobley's potential max salary) in exchange for a SRP and MLE money.

- He is high on Rokas. He thinks he is tired of being a bench player in Barcelona and would accept a second-round salary to play around 15 minutes a game.

- He is optimistic about Precious accepting a 5M/y salary because he is a tweener who can not shoot.

- He is pessimistic about a rookie cracking into the rotation this year.

- He can see Washington trade Deni for relatively cheap (I disagree). But he does not trust his shooting entirely.

- He does not like Oubre. Bad shooter and a mediocre defender.

- He thinks Caruso is getting old and will demand a huge salary (around 20M/y) to be our 7th player. Besides, Chicago would not trade for a couple of our garbage picks.

- Monte Morris is a great shooter but he can not drive and his size would not fit next to Brunson.

- He thinks Hayward and Batum are too old; Tobias Harris will get better offers than MLE; Olynik is an awful defender; Looney would not want to be our third center; Derrick Jones is poor as an offensive player; Fontecchio" 's offer would be matched by Detroit (RFA).


Got to say no to Precious. A stretch 4 would be nice for his spot... oh wait thats Bojan Bodanovic.


If we get Okoro in a sign and trade, it would be hard to keep Bojan because we would be hard-capped in the first apron (178M) and with OG, IHart and Bojan, our payroll would hit 170M (9 players). If we are using the MLE to sign Okoro, we will have to waive Bojan. Otherwise, we surely would pass.


I like Okoro. Why would the Cavs sign-and-trade him for 12m per year? Every year he has improved and his defense has been above average.
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Re: More Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#889 » by WargamesX » Tue Jun 18, 2024 3:34 am

Jeffrey wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:
Got to say no to Precious. A stretch 4 would be nice for his spot... oh wait thats Bojan Bodanovic.


If we get Okoro in a sign and trade, it would be hard to keep Bojan because we would be hard-capped in the first apron (178M) and with OG, IHart and Bojan, our payroll would hit 170M (9 players). If we are using the MLE to sign Okoro, we will have to waive Bojan. Otherwise, we surely would pass.


I like Okoro. Why would the Cavs sign-and-trade him for 12m per year? Every year he has improved and his defense has been above average.


It doesn't make sense to me either. However, they are guessing just as much as we do. They just have the courage to do it on camera. With that said the overall analysis was great like normal KFS strength is analysis, not sources. Begley is great for sources except when he decides to knick for clicks.

Which is why as well thought out as their argument is, Begley saying they plan to keep Bojan and go over the second apron holds more weight.
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Re: More Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#890 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Jun 18, 2024 3:35 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:How about Nerlens Noel and Frank?


Taj, Knox, Dennis Smith Jr, and Ryan should be available as well.

Super Mario may come back to the NBA. It looks like he has learned to shoot 3s...

Once a Knick, always a Knick.

That would be a great 2nd unit. Sub in all 5 at once, Hubie Brown style


Ryan actually has a skill we could use. Isn’t he the one who made some defensive 3 second calls against our opponents from the bench?
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Post#891 » by Richard4444 » Tue Jun 18, 2024 3:37 am

Jeffrey wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:
Got to say no to Precious. A stretch 4 would be nice for his spot... oh wait thats Bojan Bodanovic.


If we get Okoro in a sign and trade, it would be hard to keep Bojan because we would be hard-capped in the first apron (178M) and with OG, IHart and Bojan, our payroll would hit 170M (9 players). If we are using the MLE to sign Okoro, we will have to waive Bojan. Otherwise, we surely would pass.


I like Okoro. Why would the Cavs sign-and-trade him for 12m per year? Every year he has improved and his defense has been above average.


Jeremy thinks Cavs will be in a salary cap hell in 2025 after Donovan and Mobley get their max.

I think Cavs should re-sign him for cheap and trade him next season if they need to. But I can see the Cavs sign and trading him if the negotiations are tough. But the price should be at least a late FRP.
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Post#892 » by Richard4444 » Tue Jun 18, 2024 3:38 am

The KnicksFix wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
We need to strike and Markenen would be a big get. Bogs McBride and 4FRPs for Markenen. His salary is only 18.6 and won't qualify for a crazy super max contract after it expires


Who will leave the rotation? OG, Donte? I doubt Thibs would play Randle or Lauri as a Center.


Sixth or seventh man


Lauri is not playing a reserve role. He is after a max next season.
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Post#893 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Jun 18, 2024 3:55 am

Richard4444 wrote:
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Richard4444 wrote:
Who will leave the rotation? OG, Donte? I doubt Thibs would play Randle or Lauri as a Center.


Sixth or seventh man


Lauri is not playing a reserve role. He is after a max next season.


Correct.

There are a bunch of folks here who are going to be very disappointed in this offseason. Not me. My expectations are in check.
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Post#894 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Jun 18, 2024 4:10 am

If we lose I-Hart, Bitdazi is a 24 year old free agent.

Other options:

Drummond?

Valencunas?

Looney?

Capela?
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Post#895 » by sol537 » Tue Jun 18, 2024 4:12 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:If we lose I-Hart, Bitdazi is a 24 year old free agent.

Drummond?

Valencunas?

Looney?

Capela?


If we lose IHart, we should look to Looney as a “cheap”back up and then use that “freed up” money to strengthen our bench.
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Post#896 » by Jeffrey » Tue Jun 18, 2024 4:32 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:If we lose I-Hart, Bitdazi is a 24 year old free agent.

Other options:

Drummond?

Valencunas?

Looney?

Capela?


Mason Plumlee?

If iHart leaves, I'm hoping for a player that is willing to sign for a year or two.
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Post#897 » by Knick4Real » Tue Jun 18, 2024 6:02 am

Wildcat wrote:
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Let's bring in Halifraud and Joel while you're at it.


Respect your position, and I get it, too. Like, no matter what, there's no way that I would ever want to watch Kyrie Irving play in a Knick uniform. However, if we're restricting entrance to anyone who hasn't pissed off Knicks fans, then this is going to be a very very short list.

That said, I think if we're arguing Randle v KAT, then everyone who can play the SF/PF position is fair game. KD, Lebron, Paul George, etc. Lebron makes us a better team, and I'd argue a much much better one. If we have one more season before extensions kick in, and the tax apron comes into effect, then this is the time to make those tough moves.


I generally agree with you, but the optics are bringing in someone like LeBron seems like a culture killer to me. He wins a championship in NY -- or even just signs or get traded here -- instantly makes it more about LeBron than it is about the NYK.

There's zero chance he's leaving LA, anyway.


Never say never.

If a team outside of Los Angeles were to draft Bronny, Lebron would be all but gone from the Lakers.

I just don't want that team to be us. KNICKS can do without Lebron.
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Post#898 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:52 am

Jeffrey wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:If we lose I-Hart, Bitdazi is a 24 year old free agent.

Other options:

Drummond?

Valencunas?

Looney?

Capela?


Mason Plumlee?

If iHart leaves, I'm hoping for a player that is willing to sign for a year or two.


I forgot about him. He goes on the list too.
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Post#899 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:53 am

Knick4Real wrote:
Wildcat wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
Respect your position, and I get it, too. Like, no matter what, there's no way that I would ever want to watch Kyrie Irving play in a Knick uniform. However, if we're restricting entrance to anyone who hasn't pissed off Knicks fans, then this is going to be a very very short list.

That said, I think if we're arguing Randle v KAT, then everyone who can play the SF/PF position is fair game. KD, Lebron, Paul George, etc. Lebron makes us a better team, and I'd argue a much much better one. If we have one more season before extensions kick in, and the tax apron comes into effect, then this is the time to make those tough moves.


I generally agree with you, but the optics are bringing in someone like LeBron seems like a culture killer to me. He wins a championship in NY -- or even just signs or get traded here -- instantly makes it more about LeBron than it is about the NYK.

There's zero chance he's leaving LA, anyway.


Never say never.

If a team outside of Los Angeles were to draft Bronny, Lebron would be all but gone from the Lakers.

I just don't want that team to be us. KNICKS can do without Lebron.


Philly has a ton of cap space.

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Post#900 » by HopelessKnick » Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:13 am

Wildcat wrote:
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Why on Earth would you start Bog over DD?


Bojan is really bad defensively so we wouldn’t start him based on that alone. He could get some bench minutes though if we go into the season with him on the roster still and maybe look for a deadline deal if nothing happens this summer.


Yeah, that's where I'm getting at. And I'm absolutely fine with him as a bench piece. I thought he was getting into a groove and getting that stroke back before that hand injury (and the ankle injury). I think he vibes off Josh well, too.


"Start the season" aka "be on the Knicks as the season starts".....was not intended to mean that he should be a starter....obviously starting Randle and Bogdan alongside each other would be bad defensively and push OG to the 2. I do think however a McBride-Hart-Bogdan-Mitch bench unit could be pretty lethal....you have great defense along with some shotmaking and slashing ability next to Bogdan.

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