Best Offers for Darius Garland

[jbk1234]

Idk if this is in reference to me or not in mentioning #1 Sarr in trade.

If it is, I'm suggesting BI for Garland so NO's can get the 19yo 2yrs away, for 2 reasons.

History shows, Zion is unlikely to stay healthy so at some point they will be turning to development where BI used to carry the team in Zion's absence, if they deal him for Garland. Murphy cannot do that. Murphy is a spacing chemistry fit with Zion who doesn't have BI's talent to carry a team. By targeting Sarr, NO's can pivot direction in case of a Zion injury, to development & draft. Notice I'm trading the Lakers 1st not NO's for control over draft.

To satisfy any goal to contend for Zion, sign or trade for a C that will bridge a gap between contention & development. Zion is still only 23/24 & can afford a 2yr soft reset to raise back the ceiling that the CJ trade collapsed. It will also allow NO's to find out if ZIon is actually worth building around. With far less risk based in a lack of control over value.

It's not, the Ingram trade is entirely dependent upon his salary expectations. The Pelicans are being very, very clear they're not offering him a max extension. The trade partners are publicly non-plussed about the idea. So he's going to process that how and when he's going to process that.

The specific issue with your specific trade is you're using Garland to get No. 4 and I don't see the Cavs pulling the trigger before the draft.

Ok, I wanted to clarify because I don't think anyone else mentioned Sarr.

What do you think would hold up the deal, BI's extension ?, Cavs wanting to explore more options ? etc..

Things that probably need to happen before the Cavs even entertain the idea of trading him: (1) Mitchell actually signs an extension; (2) the Cavs hire a coach; and (3) they sit down with Garland in a room and talk it out.

If the trade involves BI, then a 4th thing needs to happen.

[Godaddycurse]

So we get a bunch of "reports" this time of year. It's always interesting to me when we choose to believe only the ones that match our pre-existing positions to give credence to.

There is way more we don't know for sure than we do, but some of you definitely know exactly how multiple players, teams, and agencies are thinking at any given time.

I have no idea what Cleveland is going to do from largely running it back with moves around the fringes, an attempt to upgrade SF only, or something major involving one of the big 4. But I don't see how we could rule out anything other than maybe Mobley is very unlikely to go.

Maybe you say?? OKC is on the phone!

[Texas Chuck]

So we get a bunch of "reports" this time of year. It's always interesting to me when we choose to believe only the ones that match our pre-existing positions to give credence to.

There is way more we don't know for sure than we do, but some of you definitely know exactly how multiple players, teams, and agencies are thinking at any given time.

I have no idea what Cleveland is going to do from largely running it back with moves around the fringes, an attempt to upgrade SF only, or something major involving one of the big 4. But I don't see how we could rule out anything other than maybe Mobley is very unlikely to go.

Maybe you say?? OKC is on the phone!

Oh pretty sure I actually posted that trade here a month or so ago? And I love the idea. But Cavs fans don;t/ Most of them are still all in on him as a star. I don't see that. But I do see a very good defensive big who would fit beautifully in OKC.

[Godaddycurse]

So we get a bunch of "reports" this time of year. It's always interesting to me when we choose to believe only the ones that match our pre-existing positions to give credence to.

There is way more we don't know for sure than we do, but some of you definitely know exactly how multiple players, teams, and agencies are thinking at any given time.

I have no idea what Cleveland is going to do from largely running it back with moves around the fringes, an attempt to upgrade SF only, or something major involving one of the big 4. But I don't see how we could rule out anything other than maybe Mobley is very unlikely to go.

Maybe you say?? OKC is on the phone!

Oh pretty sure I actually posted that trade here a month or so ago? And I love the idea. But Cavs fans don;t/ Most of them are still all in on him as a star. I don't see that. But I do see a very good defensive big who would fit beautifully in OKC.

i think it was wolveswin..

but if they trade

mobley for jalen williams
garland for Lebron

Mitchell
Strus
Williams
Lebron
Allen

that is a heck of a lineup to win in the next 2-3 yrs

[Whole Truth]

It's not, the Ingram trade is entirely dependent upon his salary expectations. The Pelicans are being very, very clear they're not offering him a max extension. The trade partners are publicly non-plussed about the idea. So he's going to process that how and when he's going to process that.

The specific issue with your specific trade is you're using Garland to get No. 4 and I don't see the Cavs pulling the trigger before the draft.

Ok, I wanted to clarify because I don't think anyone else mentioned Sarr.

What do you think would hold up the deal, BI's extension ?, Cavs wanting to explore more options ? etc..

Things that probably need to happen before the Cavs even entertain the idea of trading him: (1) Mitchell actually signs an extension; (2) the Cavs hire a coach; and (3) they sit down with Garland in a room and talk it out.

If the trade involves BI, then a 4th thing needs to happen.

Would Cavs fire a coach out of preference without knowing Mitchell would sign. Why is there rumors he doesn't want them to trade Allen if he doesn't plan to sign. Sounds like he's stating preferences to his stay to me. I think his extension is a foregone conclusion.

That said, I agree with what you're saying & these things do take time & due diligence.

[Monky15]

I to think the Cavs should listen to offers for Mobley. Can the Cavs offer Allen a 2yr extension this offseason? If he is locked in for 4 years total at a reasonable figure it makes it easier to move Mobley.

[jayjaysee]

I think KAT is the best player coming back. But I’d want to flip him if I’m Cleveland.

DJM+Hunter for Garland+Niang kind of trade and see what else I can get Atlanta to add. Don’t care if it’s pick(s), Cleveland can do the work as long as you get Mitchell/Murray, Hunter not a bad fit to give some size on wings…

Atlanta can dump Capela on a 4th team to solve their tax issues, and still take back Niang. I’d probably trade back from 1st after that and just put defenders all around the roster. But that’s a different path

[Monky15]

Why not a Garland for Bridges type deal?

Was thinking about this but would need a 3rd team for Garland.

Garland to Orlando for Black and Picks
Orlando get a young pgof for non core pieces.

Picks to Charlotte for Bridges in a SnT
Charlotte doesn't lose Bridges for nothing.

Cavs send out Garland for Black, Bridges.
Black is an interesting prospect who can play with the other players on the roster. Bridges gives them an above average forward who matches their timeline.

[jbk1234]

Why not a Garland for Bridges type deal?

Was thinking about this but would need a 3rd team for Garland.

Garland to Orlando for Black and Picks
Orlando get a young pgof for non core pieces.

Picks to Charlotte for Bridges in a SnT
Charlotte doesn't lose Bridges for nothing.

Cavs send out Garland for Black, Bridges.
Black is an interesting prospect who can play with the other players on the roster. Bridges gives them an above average forward who matches their timeline.

Wrong Bridges.

[Monky15]

Wrong Bridges.

Doesn't have to be.

As to Brooklyn Bridges because of their whole draft pick situation I feel a Thomas/ Bridges lead team could win more regular season games than a Thomas/ Garland one.
If they are trading Bridges it needs to be for a foundation piece a contender isn't willing to wait to develop vs a mystery pick platter. (They should of taken the rumoured Houston offer of having their picks back)

[jbk1234]

Wrong Bridges.

Doesn't have to be.

As to Brooklyn Bridges because of their whole draft pick situation I feel a Thomas/ Bridges lead team could win more regular season games than a Thomas/ Garland one.
If they are trading Bridges it needs to be for a foundation piece a contender isn't willing to wait to develop vs a mystery pick platter. (They should of taken the rumoured Houston offer of having their picks back)

The Cavs aren't going to trade Garland for Miles Bridges. That’s delusional.

[mcfly1204]

Wrong Bridges.

Doesn't have to be.

As to Brooklyn Bridges because of their whole draft pick situation I feel a Thomas/ Bridges lead team could win more regular season games than a Thomas/ Garland one.
If they are trading Bridges it needs to be for a foundation piece a contender isn't willing to wait to develop vs a mystery pick platter. (They should of taken the rumoured Houston offer of having their picks back)

The Cavs aren't going to trade Garland for Miles Bridges. That’s delusional.

Any situation involving Cam Thomas and winning games feels like a lost cause, so you might be on to something.

[jbk1234]

Doesn't have to be.

As to Brooklyn Bridges because of their whole draft pick situation I feel a Thomas/ Bridges lead team could win more regular season games than a Thomas/ Garland one.
If they are trading Bridges it needs to be for a foundation piece a contender isn't willing to wait to develop vs a mystery pick platter. (They should of taken the rumoured Houston offer of having their picks back)

The Cavs aren't going to trade Garland for Miles Bridges. That’s delusional.

Any situation involving Cam Thomas and winning games feels like a lost cause, so you might be on to something.

Yeah, Cam Thomas as a starter will win one out of every 3 games regardless of who you put out there with him. He'll also lose the other two of the 3 games regardless of who you put out there with him.

[phraoh]

Someone mentioned Cavs flipping KAT if received for Garland. I would want to keep KAT...he is perfect fit for Cavs. They desperately need a scoring big to balance their team even IF they keep Allen and Mobley. Trade makes perfect sense and I think for both teams as Minnesota has creaky old and finished Conley at PG.

[wolves_89]

Someone mentioned Cavs flipping KAT if received for Garland. I would want to keep KAT...he is perfect fit for Cavs. They desperately need a scoring big to balance their team even IF they keep Allen and Mobley. Trade makes perfect sense and I think for both teams as Minnesota has creaky old and finished Conley at PG.

I'd disagree pretty strongly on Garland making sense in Minnesota. On offense Garland needs the ball to be effective and that's not going to happen when he's paired with Ant. Looking at how the Garland/Mitchell pairing worked makes me have no interest in creating a Garland/Ant one. On the other end, his subpar defense doesn't fit with the Wolves defensive identity.

[DowJones]

Maybe you say?? OKC is on the phone!

Oh pretty sure I actually posted that trade here a month or so ago? And I love the idea. But Cavs fans don;t/ Most of them are still all in on him as a star. I don't see that. But I do see a very good defensive big who would fit beautifully in OKC.

i think it was wolveswin..

but if they trade

mobley for jalen williams
garland for Lebron

Mitchell
Strus
Williams
Lebron
Allen

that is a heck of a lineup to win in the next 2-3 yrs

I would rather flip Garland for Ingram. Mitchell-Williams-Ingram-Wade-Allen is a very nice team for the next 3-5 years.