2024 Free Agency

[Slim Tubby]

In one hour, 11:01 PM CDT, teams are allowed to renegotiate with their own free agents.

Expect to hear that several players are extending, maybe even Gobert.

Is it correct that Gobert is signed through next year. Extension would mean he opt out of his 46m 2025-2026.
I think he signs a 3 to 4 year deal starting 2025-2026 season with something like 30M a year for 4 years.

I think something starting around 32-35 is realistic.

I'd be worried about extending Rudy for more than three (3) years unless the 4th year is a Team Option. I would expect we get something done with a deal that averages around $35M per year.

He had a special season and keeps himself in great shape which would lessen the concern on a 4-year extension.

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[Colbinii]

Is it correct that Gobert is signed through next year. Extension would mean he opt out of his 46m 2025-2026.
I think he signs a 3 to 4 year deal starting 2025-2026 season with something like 30M a year for 4 years.

I think something starting around 32-35 is realistic.

I'd be worried about extending Rudy for more than three (3) years unless the 4th year is a Team Option. I would expect we get something done with a deal that averages around $35M per year.

He had a special season and keeps himself in great shape which would lessen the concern on a 4-year extension.

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Well we need to incentivize him to not take his 2025-2026 Option. Rudy is due 47 Million in 2025-2026. The entire premise he will "take 30 Million AAV" is laughable [Per TimberKat] as that's a 35% pay cut in 2025-2026.

Here is what to expect, under the following premise:

1) Gobert wants to be in Minnesota
2) The cap is going up ~10% AAV
3) Gobert wants his 47 Million

Have Rudy decline his Player Option and give him a deal which ends at his player option amount of 47 Million. This is exactly what Jrue Holiday did this year. Jrue Holiday declined a 37 Million Player Option for 2024-2025 and instead extended for 4 years and moved that player option to the end of his new extension.

Rudy's potential Extension:

2025-2026: 36.9 Million (23.8% of Cap) 155 170.6 187.7 206.4
2026-2027: 39.8 Million (23.3% of Cap)
2027-2028: 43.0 Million (22.9% of Cap)
2028-2029: 46.5 Million (22.5% of Cap)

You could also shorten it and really give him just 2 more years after 2025-2026.

2025-2026: 39.8 Million (25.6% of Cap)
2026-2027: 43.0 Million (25.2% of Cap)
2027-2028: 46.5 Million (24.8% of Cap)

There are a lot of possibilities with Rudy Gobert, but it is very obvious if this team wishes to keep most of the core intact, it needs to avoid the 2nd Apron in 2025-2026, and in order to do that, restructuring and extending Rudy's contract makes a ton of sense.

Now, maybe the evaluation on Rudy is really closer to 35 Million AAV, which means he is taking a 12 Million paycut in 2025-2026. Extend that 12 Million over 3 years at 4 Million per year.

2025-2026: 39 Million (25.6% of Cap)
2026-2027: 39 Million (22.9% of Cap)
2027-2028: 39 Million (20.1% of Cap)

I think something like this [or similarly starting lower and going up to 43-44 Million] is probably in line with what both sides want. But remember, it is Rudy with the bargaining power here since he has the Player Option of 47 Million.

[Note30]

In one hour, 11:01 PM CDT, teams are allowed to renegotiate with their own free agents.

Expect to hear that several players are extending, maybe even Gobert.

Is it correct that Gobert is signed through next year. Extension would mean he opt out of his 46m 2025-2026.
I think he signs a 3 to 4 year deal starting 2025-2026 season with something like 30M a year for 4 years.

I think something starting around 32-35 is realistic.

His market value is no where close to that. There's not a team out there that would pay him that in 2026. 20-24 mill is more like it.

[Colbinii]

Is it correct that Gobert is signed through next year. Extension would mean he opt out of his 46m 2025-2026.
I think he signs a 3 to 4 year deal starting 2025-2026 season with something like 30M a year for 4 years.

I think something starting around 32-35 is realistic.

His market value is no where close to that. There's not a team out there that would pay him that in 2026. 20-24 mill is more like it.

I think Nic Claxton will help set the stage, and I would bet Gobert for the next 3-4 years is a better basketball player than Nic Claxton.

We just saw Gobert be quite comfortably a Top 10 impact player in the post-season. It will be Gobert's ages 33-36 season(s).

Jimmy Butler recently signed a 3 year, 146 Million extension in 2023. That is 48-49 Million AAV.

Domantas Sabonis is making 44 Million AAV over the next 4 seasons. Gobert is a similar caliber player as Sabonis [albeit older]. I think it is fair to say Gobert will command well over 20-24 Million, unless everyone in the NBA forgets just how good Rudy Gobert is, including Rudy Gobert himself

[minimus]

Rudy Gobert doesn't have skills that will allow him to age gracefully. He doesn't shoot the ball well, he doesn't pass, he doesn't score around rim with advanced footwork and soft touch. Yes, he has exceptional length but it only works when he is mobile and agile (see his struggle last season).

[Klomp]

There is a rule about that an "extension" has to be like 80% of his last year, and I think the option year factors into it.

[Klomp]

Rudy Gobert doesn't have skills that will allow him to age gracefully. He doesn't shoot the ball well, he doesn't pass, he doesn't score around rim with advanced footwork and soft touch. Yes, he has exceptional length but it only works when he is mobile and agile (see his struggle last season).

Mutombo, Willis, etc were able to keep their careers going pretty far....

[Note30]

Rudy Gobert doesn't have skills that will allow him to age gracefully. He doesn't shoot the ball well, he doesn't pass, he doesn't score around rim with advanced footwork and soft touch. Yes, he has exceptional length but it only works when he is mobile and agile (see his struggle last season).

Mutombo, Willis, etc were able to keep their careers going pretty far....

Did they take up a huge chunk of the cap?

[BlacJacMac]

Rudy Gobert doesn't have skills that will allow him to age gracefully. He doesn't shoot the ball well, he doesn't pass, he doesn't score around rim with advanced footwork and soft touch. Yes, he has exceptional length but it only works when he is mobile and agile (see his struggle last season).

Mutombo, Willis, etc were able to keep their careers going pretty far....

Did they take up a huge chunk of the cap?

In 2002, at age 36 Mutombo made 16.5M. The salary cap was 40M.

It was the 2nd year of a 4/65M contract.

[shrink]

Mutombo, Willis, etc were able to keep their careers going pretty far....

Did they take up a huge chunk of the cap?

In 2002, at age 36 Mutombo made 16.5M. The salary cap was 40M.

It was the 2nd year of a 4/65M contract.

Thanks for looking that up, BlacJacMac.

30% of the cap. Max deals started in 1999.

[cmoss84]

More valuable: Klay or Rudy?
Rudy...right?
What do you all value them at per year?

[cmoss84]

(I've got Klay at 18 and Rudy at 30)

[minimus]

Rudy Gobert doesn't have skills that will allow him to age gracefully. He doesn't shoot the ball well, he doesn't pass, he doesn't score around rim with advanced footwork and soft touch. Yes, he has exceptional length but it only works when he is mobile and agile (see his struggle last season).

Mutombo, Willis, etc were able to keep their careers going pretty far....

I understand the optimism, but it was a different era, different basketball... We could protect Rudy at some degree in these playoffs with Towns, McDaniels, Anderson, NAW and Edwards , but I guess his current DPOY trophy with this group is apex of his career. I think current roster construction should be considered as big factor, in other words Rudy needs this roster as much as MIN need him.

[shrink]

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-nba-free-agent-rankings-top-players-available-this-summer/

Here’s hoopshype’s free agent list. If you’re looking for free agents that might play here for the vet min, scroll from the bottom.

[frankenwolf]

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-nba-free-agent-rankings-top-players-available-this-summer/

Here’s hoopshype’s free agent list. If you’re looking for free agents that might play here for the vet min, scroll from the bottom.

First - Alex Len is still playing?? I thought he retired a couple of years ago!
Second - Pascal signed (will re-sign) with the Pacers, making good money.

[Norseman79]

Here is my free agent wish list:
PG: Fultz/Smith Jr.
PF: Xavier Tillman
C: James Wiseman

Cheap depth, especially if we run it back

Conley Jr, Fultz, rookie
Edwards,Naw, Clark
McDaniels, Miller, Minott
Towns, Reid, Tillman
Gobert, Wiseman

[MN7725]

curious if Evan Fournier looks like he has anything left in the tank during Olympics
31, but hasn't done much in NBA for couple seasons

[Klomp]

curious if Evan Fournier looks like he has anything left in the tank during Olympics
31, but hasn't done much in NBA for couple seasons

Definitely could be a realistic target for the minimum, a good name to keep an eye on

[MN7725]

curious if Evan Fournier looks like he has anything left in the tank during Olympics
31, but hasn't done much in NBA for couple seasons

Definitely could be a realistic target for the minimum, a good name to keep an eye on

I was never a big fan, but he was/is pretty skilled, could get offense in half court
so potentially could be someone that could boost a lineup with like Gobert/NAW/Jaden for example

I'm not sure if Batum is at vet minimum level as a player yet or could get a bigger deal, but that would be some built in French team, 10+ yr chemistry too

[Note30]

curious if Evan Fournier looks like he has anything left in the tank during Olympics
31, but hasn't done much in NBA for couple seasons

Definitely could be a realistic target for the minimum, a good name to keep an eye on

I was never a big fan, but he was/is pretty skilled, could get offense in half court
so potentially could be someone that could boost a lineup with like Gobert/NAW/Jaden for example

I'm not sure if Batum is at vet minimum level as a player yet or could get a bigger deal, but that would be some built in French team, 10+ yr chemistry too

Didn't he say he was gonna retire after this season? Batum that is.