Houston trade - (#3, Tate, Landale, Houston/Nets FRP) for (Bridges)
Nets trade - (Bridges) for (BI, Houston FRP Nets draft rights)
Hawks trade - (#1) for (#3 Clingan, #21, NO's/Lakers 25)
NO's trade - (BI, #21, NO's/Lakers 25) for (Tate, Landale, #1)
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Whole Truth wrote:Houston trade - (#3, Tate, Landale, Houston/Nets FRP) for (Bridges)
Nets trade - (Bridges) for (BI, Houston FRP Nets draft rights)
Hawks trade - (#1) for (#3 Clingan, #21, NO's/Lakers 25)
NO's trade - (BI, #21, NO's/Lakers 25) for (Tate, Landale, #1)
If Clingan really is our guy and lord i hope he's not and it's a bluff. We need to quit being dumb sit at 1 and take Sarr. But if we are determined to get Clingan then #3 + 21 and a lottery chance next year isn't a bad return. This one i could get with for sure and would probably use that 21 + something else to try and move back up for a another good young player that might fall some.
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Threezus wrote:Whole Truth wrote:Houston trade - (#3, Tate, Landale, Houston/Nets FRP) for (Bridges)
Nets trade - (Bridges) for (BI, Houston FRP Nets draft rights)
Hawks trade - (#1) for (#3 Clingan, #21, NO's/Lakers 25)
NO's trade - (BI, #21, NO's/Lakers 25) for (Tate, Landale, #1)
If Clingan really is our guy and lord i hope he's not and it's a bluff. We need to quit being dumb sit at 1 and take Sarr. But if we are determined to get Clingan then #3 + 21 and a lottery chance next year isn't a bad return. This one i could get with for sure and would probably use that 21 + something else to try and move back up for a another good young player that might fall some.
I'm following the Hawk board, reports are saying he crushed his workout, while he's the "safe" option to Sarr being potential & needing time.
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Whole Truth wrote:Threezus wrote:Whole Truth wrote:Houston trade - (#3, Tate, Landale, Houston/Nets FRP) for (Bridges)
Nets trade - (Bridges) for (BI, Houston FRP Nets draft rights)
Hawks trade - (#1) for (#3 Clingan, #21, NO's/Lakers 25)
NO's trade - (BI, #21, NO's/Lakers 25) for (Tate, Landale, #1)
If Clingan really is our guy and lord i hope he's not and it's a bluff. We need to quit being dumb sit at 1 and take Sarr. But if we are determined to get Clingan then #3 + 21 and a lottery chance next year isn't a bad return. This one i could get with for sure and would probably use that 21 + something else to try and move back up for a another good young player that might fall some.
I'm following the Hawk board, reports are saying he crushed his workout, while he's the "safe" option to Sarr being potential & needing time.
Yeah forget the safe option i want a chance at a guy that can become a superstar if he hits. Very few 7 ft+ guys can do what Sarr can with the ball in his hands. He is already a top notch perimeter defender which is the Hawks biggest issue on defense. I can live with using the #1 pick on a guy with superstar upside and he just doesn't reach it. I can't get behind taking a lesser talented and more limited player at the #1 overall pick because he is thought to be safer. Atleast with Sarr if he hits that can be team/franchise changing player. Clingan moves you from the #10 seeded team to #5 or 6 seeded team at best if he hits he just raises the floor is all.
I know who most Hawks fans want we got a poll going and Sarr is like 50 votes to 4 for clingan to 7 trade for a vet star. It's not even remotely close XD. But i fully expect the Hawks to do what they do best and bypass the guy with the most upside everyone expects them to pick. Then go with someone to try and be smarter than everyone else. We did it with Cp3, did it with deron, did it with luka, and i expect them to do it with Sarr with all these reports lately.
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At this point, Net fan probably think Dallas needs to attach picks in a Doncic for Bridges swap
This trade assumes Houston is the desperate party at the very least, and we've seen no indication that's the case. If Brooklyn trades Bridges to anyone else they won big time because they have the swap, if they don't do anything they're probably a 12 seed again still with the chance that they accidently give them another high pick.
Meanwhile, the west is still loaded and their kids haven't really totally developed while their cap situation is reasonably clear, oh and they also just extended he GM.
Any objective look at this would say the Marks is far more likely on the hot seat than Stone, yet most of these trades are structured the other way around.
This trade assumes Houston is the desperate party at the very least, and we've seen no indication that's the case. If Brooklyn trades Bridges to anyone else they won big time because they have the swap, if they don't do anything they're probably a 12 seed again still with the chance that they accidently give them another high pick.
Meanwhile, the west is still loaded and their kids haven't really totally developed while their cap situation is reasonably clear, oh and they also just extended he GM.
Any objective look at this would say the Marks is far more likely on the hot seat than Stone, yet most of these trades are structured the other way around.
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A deal with the 2025 pick swap going to the Nets and Bridges going out means that the Nets can tank (and get a great player in next year's draft or by trading that pick) and both the Nets and Houston will have a better overall outcome for the two teams combined.
If Houston keeps the pick swap the Nets have no incentive to tank and will need more coming back to deal Bridges as they will want to win this year.
Even if the Nets miss the playoffs next year there is no guarantee the ping pong balls go their way.
With the Nets trying to win, next year's pick could be in the 10-15 range instead of the top three.
If Houston keeps the pick swap the Nets have no incentive to tank and will need more coming back to deal Bridges as they will want to win this year.
Even if the Nets miss the playoffs next year there is no guarantee the ping pong balls go their way.
With the Nets trying to win, next year's pick could be in the 10-15 range instead of the top three.
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RollingWave wrote:At this point, Net fan probably think Dallas needs to attach picks in a Doncic for Bridges swap
This trade assumes Houston is the desperate party at the very least, and we've seen no indication that's the case. If Brooklyn trades Bridges to anyone else they won big time because they have the swap, if they don't do anything they're probably a 12 seed again still with the chance that they accidently give them another high pick.
Meanwhile, the west is still loaded and their kids haven't really totally developed while their cap situation is reasonably clear, oh and they also just extended he GM.
Any objective look at this would say the Marks is far more likely on the hot seat than Stone, yet most of these trades are structured the other way around.
Hyperbole much? The value in owning your own picks is that you have the ability to tank hard and try to get a high pick. If you're unwilling to win less than 20 games by design, then control of your own pick isn't then amazing return some here believe it to be.
If the Nets move Bridges, I think they more likely pursue young players with upside that don't mesh with their current team's timeline. I'd look at teams Indy and OKC that may want to accelerate their timeline or rebalance their future cap sheet. Is there a young player(s) stuck behind win now vets or young players coming off their rookie deal soon that their team may not be willing to commit big, long term money to?
I don't think the Nets are willing to be terrible for multiple years. Getting players with potential that have already been through the worst of their growing pains may be more palatable. It's what they did in '17 when they traded their best player (Lopez) for DLo.
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TheNetsFan wrote:RollingWave wrote:At this point, Net fan probably think Dallas needs to attach picks in a Doncic for Bridges swap
This trade assumes Houston is the desperate party at the very least, and we've seen no indication that's the case. If Brooklyn trades Bridges to anyone else they won big time because they have the swap, if they don't do anything they're probably a 12 seed again still with the chance that they accidently give them another high pick.
Meanwhile, the west is still loaded and their kids haven't really totally developed while their cap situation is reasonably clear, oh and they also just extended he GM.
Any objective look at this would say the Marks is far more likely on the hot seat than Stone, yet most of these trades are structured the other way around.
Hyperbole much? The value in owning your own picks is that you have the ability to tank hard and try to get a high pick. If you're unwilling to win less than 20 games by design, then control of your own pick isn't then amazing return some here believe it to be.
If the Nets move Bridges, I think they more likely pursue young players with upside that don't mesh with their current team's timeline. I'd look at teams Indy and OKC that may want to accelerate their timeline or rebalance their future cap sheet. Is there a young player(s) stuck behind win now vets or young players coming off their rookie deal soon that their team may not be willing to commit big, long term money to?
I don't think the Nets are willing to be terrible for multiple years. Getting players with potential that have already been through the worst of their growing pains may be more palatable. It's what they did in '17 when they traded their best player (Lopez) for DLo.
It's not a choice, Houston own Nets picks through 27. If Nets trade for young players to develop, that directional choice only benefits Houston.
My reasoning behind trading BI, the NO/s Lakers pick & not Nets draft rights, is because I wanted it to be both a win now trade because Houston do own multiple draft years, with some asset collection for possible progression, instead of breaking down your best players without control of draft. Whether the value is correct or not is debatable but that was the intent.
I think BI will do a better job of carry the Nets offensively & Bridges while being an elite 3D wing, is amore complimentary player. For this tradeoff, I'm sending a future pick in 25 with some lotto projection to help give Nets an avenue for progression without having to be bad. Whereas keeping Bridges & Houston owning draft rights there's less opportunity for progress.
I'm thinking BI + FRP with some lotto projection > Bridges & Houston owning draft rights.
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