Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2

[stormi]

Stanley Johnson wouldn't be the worst gamble in the world on a vet min.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/gleague/players/j/johnsst01d.html

I don't know what the Showcase Cup is, but in the regular season he shot 40% from deep on 5+ attempts per game and in the playoffs he shot 42% from 3 on 9+ attempts per game (only two games lol).

Big time stock numbers, a very good rebounder for the position and a 6'6 athlete that can defend and help us on transition on both sides of the ball.

[Mik317]

Hold up he might be cooking

This is the type of **** I be on

I of course am not a pro gm but still

[the_process]

Is 4-year, $160 mil outrageous for OG? That starts at $35 mil, leaving us about 25-30 mil cap depending on if we keep or trade #16.

Edit: this obviously pairs perfect with a Lauri trade ($18 mil) and a starting guard with the $7-12 mil remaining (again depending on #16).

Lauri and OG together would be a nice outcome for this offseason.

[Kobblehead]

Giving max contracts to role players has NEVER worked in the past for this franchise. Why even offer something to OG?

[fkd215]

I think NY will give that and more to OG. But I'd do it.

[mjkvol]

Giving max contracts to role players has NEVER worked in the past for this franchise. Why even offer something to OG?

I don't disagree that it hasn't been a successful method here, but isn't that also a reflection of who the role player was and what his fit would be? OG is a perfect fit with Embiid and Maxey both on the court and age-wise, and if signing him leaves room to add more than the vet mins we would be able to get after signing one of these "3rd star max deal" types, I'm all in.

[Monix]

I would 100% prefer Anunoby at his max to George/Butler/Ingram

[blazehound]

I would 100% prefer Anunoby at his max to George/Butler/Ingram

100%%%%

[ProcessDoctor]

At the end of the day, between the $60 mil cap space, room exception, and #16 we ought to have 6 legit playoff-worthy players. Goerge or LeBron at $50 mil make that really tough unless you nail #16. Butler at $50 mil plus picks makes it almost impossible.

[Eyeamok]

So did I read that right. OG's agent is the son of Leon Rose who has the final say on Knick deals?

[SixthStreet]

Didn't realize Ingram is an expiring. If you think OG's max deal looks ugly, imagine trading picks for the privilege of paying Ingram $55m beginning in 25-26.

Ingram is THE worst outcome this offseason and number 2 isn't close (well, I'm not counting Bridges).

[GoSixersBro]

Didn't realize Ingram is an expiring. If you think OG's max deal looks ugly, imagine trading picks for the privilege of paying Ingram $55m beginning in 25-26.

Ingram is THE worst outcome this offseason and number 2 isn't close (well, I'm not counting Bridges).

I’ve seen plenty of Tatum fake star comments this month, but damn, a player like Ingram fits that label like a glove.

[ProcessDoctor]

Wrong thread

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I'm on board with Anunoby. He's a big time difference maker at the wing position and the perfect player to put in between Maxey and Embiid.

[Wilfried]

I'm on board with Anunoby. He's a big time difference maker at the wing position and the perfect player to put in between Maxey and Embiid.

But at what cost?

And would we be fine to go after Mikal Bridges (trade) f.i. after signing OG?

Maxey
Bridges
Oubre
OG
Embiid

Nice ... but we depend on Embiid and Maxey to be the guys to push us over the limit than

Or can we not depend on Embiid enough and should we go after a PG13 (and is he the guy to take over?)

[Jhawk03]

Didn't realize Ingram is an expiring. If you think OG's max deal looks ugly, imagine trading picks for the privilege of paying Ingram $55m beginning in 25-26.

Ingram is THE worst outcome this offseason and number 2 isn't close (well, I'm not counting Bridges).

The major concern this offseason is directly in front of us... and that is...

I'm on board with Anunoby. He's a big time difference maker at the wing position and the perfect player to put in between Maxey and Embiid.

But at what cost?

And would we be fine to go after Mikal Bridges (trade) f.i. after signing OG?

Maxey
Bridges
Oubre
OG
Embiid

Nice ... but we depend on Embiid and Maxey to be the guys to push us over the limit than

Or can we not depend on Embiid enough and should we go after a PG13 (and is he the guy to take over?)

Like how is Morey supposed to spend the max money? That's the elephant in the room, I mean he has to spend it.

Now I agree that OG is a terrific fit for this team. Unfortunately the cost is a little ridiculous. Just a little. I mean I'm almost at the point where I would bring in LeBron (PG be damned) and give him the keys to recruit and do his LeGm in order to give him a shot at #5... because the cost of these "role players" vs "aged stars" is hilarious to the point of being ironic. Like if it's not a big 3 then it's building a team with competent role players. Yet both options are currently overpriced?? It's a joke

[Wilfried]

Didn't realize Ingram is an expiring. If you think OG's max deal looks ugly, imagine trading picks for the privilege of paying Ingram $55m beginning in 25-26.

Ingram is THE worst outcome this offseason and number 2 isn't close (well, I'm not counting Bridges).

The major concern this offseason is directly in front of us... and that is...

I'm on board with Anunoby. He's a big time difference maker at the wing position and the perfect player to put in between Maxey and Embiid.

But at what cost?

And would we be fine to go after Mikal Bridges (trade) f.i. after signing OG?

Maxey
Bridges
Oubre
OG
Embiid

Nice ... but we depend on Embiid and Maxey to be the guys to push us over the limit than

Or can we not depend on Embiid enough and should we go after a PG13 (and is he the guy to take over?)

Like how is Morey supposed to spend the max money? That's the elephant in the room, I mean he has to spend it.

Now I agree that OG is a terrific fit for this team. Unfortunately the cost is a little ridiculous. Just a little. I mean I'm almost at the point where I would bring in LeBron (PG be damned) and give him the keys to recruit and do his LeGm in order to give him a shot at #5... because the cost of these "role players" vs "aged stars" is hilarious to the point of being ironic. Like if it's not a big 3 then it's building a team with competent role players. Yet both options are currently overpriced?? It's a joke

Thing is: throwing money at PG13 (or even LeBron) means you're stuck with them for the rest of that contract (or will have to give the keys to the house with him to get rid).

OG (still has to become 27) and will be tradeable (without giving up too much) if necessary. You have to take that in account too

A trio of Maxey - OG - Embiid as your max contracts isn't that bad to build around. You could argue that it's as good as Brown - Tatum - KP. It's about the other players you put around them that complement them.
PG13 is maybe better for 1 or max 2 seasons but than it's done. And he isn't healthy. LeBron is not realistic imo

But I prefer OG over Ingram, that's for sure

[Jhawk03]

Didn't realize Ingram is an expiring. If you think OG's max deal looks ugly, imagine trading picks for the privilege of paying Ingram $55m beginning in 25-26.

Ingram is THE worst outcome this offseason and number 2 isn't close (well, I'm not counting Bridges).

The major concern this offseason is directly in front of us... and that is...

But at what cost?

And would we be fine to go after Mikal Bridges (trade) f.i. after signing OG?

Maxey
Bridges
Oubre
OG
Embiid

Nice ... but we depend on Embiid and Maxey to be the guys to push us over the limit than

Or can we not depend on Embiid enough and should we go after a PG13 (and is he the guy to take over?)

Like how is Morey supposed to spend the max money? That's the elephant in the room, I mean he has to spend it.

Now I agree that OG is a terrific fit for this team. Unfortunately the cost is a little ridiculous. Just a little. I mean I'm almost at the point where I would bring in LeBron (PG be damned) and give him the keys to recruit and do his LeGm in order to give him a shot at #5... because the cost of these "role players" vs "aged stars" is hilarious to the point of being ironic. Like if it's not a big 3 then it's building a team with competent role players. Yet both options are currently overpriced?? It's a joke

Thing is: throwing money at PG13 (or even LeBron) means you're stuck with them for the rest of that contract (or will have to give the keys to the house with him to get rid).

OG (still has to become 27) and will be tradeable (without giving up too much) if necessary. You have to take that in account too

A trio of Maxey - OG - Embiid as your max contracts isn't that bad to build around. You could argue that it's as good as Brown - Tatum - KP. It's about the other players you put around them that complement them.
PG13 is maybe better for 1 or max 2 seasons but than it's done. And he isn't healthy. LeBron is not realistic imo

But I prefer OG over Ingram, that's for sure

i agree, mostly because Ingram will cost a little more. Maxey OG and Joel as the trio is totally fine, although I'd rather be more of a threat to beat the Celtics vs being close to equal competitively speaking.

A side note, but it's kinda weird we're fresh off the Tobias contract and yet it's as if nobody is expressing PTSD from that contract... to the point where doubling down (OG is a better player, but keep in mind the context when Tobias was signed he was about the same age as OG is now)

[the_process]

The major concern this offseason is directly in front of us... and that is...



Like how is Morey supposed to spend the max money? That's the elephant in the room, I mean he has to spend it.

Now I agree that OG is a terrific fit for this team. Unfortunately the cost is a little ridiculous. Just a little. I mean I'm almost at the point where I would bring in LeBron (PG be damned) and give him the keys to recruit and do his LeGm in order to give him a shot at #5... because the cost of these "role players" vs "aged stars" is hilarious to the point of being ironic. Like if it's not a big 3 then it's building a team with competent role players. Yet both options are currently overpriced?? It's a joke

Thing is: throwing money at PG13 (or even LeBron) means you're stuck with them for the rest of that contract (or will have to give the keys to the house with him to get rid).

OG (still has to become 27) and will be tradeable (without giving up too much) if necessary. You have to take that in account too

A trio of Maxey - OG - Embiid as your max contracts isn't that bad to build around. You could argue that it's as good as Brown - Tatum - KP. It's about the other players you put around them that complement them.
PG13 is maybe better for 1 or max 2 seasons but than it's done. And he isn't healthy. LeBron is not realistic imo

But I prefer OG over Ingram, that's for sure

i agree, mostly because Ingram will cost a little more. Maxey OG and Joel as the trio is totally fine, although I'd rather be more of a threat to beat the Celtics vs being close to equal competitively speaking.

A side note, but it's kinda weird we're fresh off the Tobias contract and yet it's as if nobody is expressing PTSD from that contract... to the point where doubling down (OG is a better player, but keep in mind the context when Tobias was signed he was about the same age as OG is now)

No I think people are expressing their PTSD about the Tobias contract. It' weighs into why there is such pushback against signing PG13 IMO.

OG by himself would be pointless. He doesn't have enough of an impact to justify the salary. Where he makes a ton of sense is if you are trading for a star on a lesser salary, like Lauri. Then you can justify overpaying him and he would slip right into his role, the Sixers would have 4 starters locked up and a little bit of room left to sign a SG, then bring back Oubre with the room exception and hope to cobble together a little bit of depth with 8 vet mins. This is pretty much what Boston did last offseason.

[youngcrev]

Didn't realize Ingram is an expiring. If you think OG's max deal looks ugly, imagine trading picks for the privilege of paying Ingram $55m beginning in 25-26.

Ingram is THE worst outcome this offseason and number 2 isn't close (well, I'm not counting Bridges).

The major concern this offseason is directly in front of us... and that is...

But at what cost?

And would we be fine to go after Mikal Bridges (trade) f.i. after signing OG?

Maxey
Bridges
Oubre
OG
Embiid

Nice ... but we depend on Embiid and Maxey to be the guys to push us over the limit than

Or can we not depend on Embiid enough and should we go after a PG13 (and is he the guy to take over?)

Like how is Morey supposed to spend the max money? That's the elephant in the room, I mean he has to spend it.

Now I agree that OG is a terrific fit for this team. Unfortunately the cost is a little ridiculous. Just a little. I mean I'm almost at the point where I would bring in LeBron (PG be damned) and give him the keys to recruit and do his LeGm in order to give him a shot at #5... because the cost of these "role players" vs "aged stars" is hilarious to the point of being ironic. Like if it's not a big 3 then it's building a team with competent role players. Yet both options are currently overpriced?? It's a joke

Thing is: throwing money at PG13 (or even LeBron) means you're stuck with them for the rest of that contract (or will have to give the keys to the house with him to get rid).

OG (still has to become 27) and will be tradeable (without giving up too much) if necessary. You have to take that in account too

A trio of Maxey - OG - Embiid as your max contracts isn't that bad to build around. You could argue that it's as good as Brown - Tatum - KP. It's about the other players you put around them that complement them.
PG13 is maybe better for 1 or max 2 seasons but than it's done. And he isn't healthy. LeBron is not realistic imo

But I prefer OG over Ingram, that's for sure

Why is healthy a concern for Paul George and not OG?

OG
23/24 - 50 games played
22/23 - 67 games played
21/22 - 48 games played
20/21 - 40 games played

He's consistently missed a lot of time due to injury.

Paul George over the same period: 77, 56, 31, 54.

He's averaged 3 more regular season games per year over that time period, while playing considerably more playoff games (that 31 game season came after a 19 game postseason)