Atlanta picking 1st and 3rd

[Whole Truth]

What if Atlanta decided to cash it all in and go full rebuild.

Rockets trade Jalen Green, Adams, #3
Rockets receive Okongwu, Murray
Atlanta is not giving up Murray without getting something more valuable back, thus Green and #3. Adams is a straight swap with Okongwu.

Miami trades Herro, #15
Miami receives Adams, Green
Cost savings from Herro's contract, get a backup for Adebayo. Both on 1-year deals so either resign or let go at end of year.

Spurs trade Graham, Collins, #4, Hawks 25 FRP, Hawks 27 FRP
Spurs receive Young
Spurs send off #4 in this draft and return the Hawks' FRPs (except for swaps) for Young. Spurs get a running mate for Wemby, retain defensive players to cover for Young.

Hawks trade Murray, Okongwu and Young
Hawks receive Herro, Collins, Graham, #3 #4, #15, and 25/27 FRPs returned.
Hawks go ahead and bite the rebuild bullet and build around Herro/Johnson. At #1 they take Sarr, #3 and #4 they take 2 of Topic/Castle/Buzelis/Clingan/Knecht and at #15 either Ware/da Silva/Salaun. Sure it is a weak draft, but if Atlanta can get the role players in this draft and to put around Johnson and still have salary cap room to absorb some overpriced players while adding assets, why not do it now rather than spin in purgatory.
Go for a complete rebuild with tradeable pieces in Capela, Hunter and Bogdanovich.

Posters on the Spurs board rumored the Hawks asking price for Young was Vessell & 5 FRP's.

[Whole Truth]

Atlanta cannot go with a rebuild or even a "reload" since they don't control their upcoming picks. I don't see them trying to acquire more picks. If anything, they are looking to trade out of #1 for veteran help.

Agree, I don't think Hawks can afford to go high risk/potential with this pick. There's no margin for error.

[Xman]

SA gets Tate, Capela, 44, two future seconds from Houston.
Houston gets Murray
Atl gets 3, Landale, JeffGreen, $20 mil tpe

Atl keeps core. Can go risacher/Clingan or Sarr/clingan.
SA sells cap space

[jayjaysee]

While what you say is a possibility, you also need a trade target & their availability, timing. NO's traded Jrue to Bucks for a pick package for the same purpose. Jrue went on to win 2 championships the last 3-4 yrs & NO's are still holding the draft assets.

I don't give you wrong, nor do I claim to be an authority of what's right. It may pan out for you but I think you're banking on a lot of risk. I believe we position ourselves for luck, good or bad. I don't agree with your positioning but I can't say with certainty it won't work,

I think NOP is in an amazing position, increasing their win total by at least 6 games each of the last 3 years. They need to make a final consolidation move to get over the hump, yeah. But they still can.

Atlanta would be happy to be comparable to a 49 win team with an asset surplus.

But I think Atlanta should be more willing to take a step back on the win now talent, build a better roster for Trae-ball, and see how it develops for a year and be able to trade for pretty much anyone in the league... The current group didn’t work, doesn’t mean you don’t have time to build differently and Trae ball can keep you respectable.

The pick debt wouldn’t factor into my decision on getting the best piece long term for Atlanta. Can make a desperation move for Grant or whoever and still keep 3rd..

[Whole Truth]

While what you say is a possibility, you also need a trade target & their availability, timing. NO's traded Jrue to Bucks for a pick package for the same purpose. Jrue went on to win 2 championships the last 3-4 yrs & NO's are still holding the draft assets.

I don't give you wrong, nor do I claim to be an authority of what's right. It may pan out for you but I think you're banking on a lot of risk. I believe we position ourselves for luck, good or bad. I don't agree with your positioning but I can't say with certainty it won't work,

I think NOP is in an amazing position, increasing their win total by at least 6 games each of the last 3 years. They need to make a final consolidation move to get over the hump, yeah. But they still can.

Atlanta would be happy to be comparable to a 49 win team with an asset surplus.

But I think Atlanta should be more willing to take a step back on the win now talent, build a better roster for Trae-ball, and see how it develops for a year and be able to trade for pretty much anyone in the league... The current group didn’t work, doesn’t mean you don’t have time to build differently.

Jonas was a big contributor the last 3yrs & was let go for a gapping hole at C. The incremental wins you mention coincide with Zion's health, where Jonas & BI contributed big in injuries, which remains an uncertainty, with both Jonas & BI now probably gone. NO's are planning to experiment with Murphy over BI because of the financial situation they've found themselves in extending CJ to a max contract & don't know how that will ultimately play out.

IMO they not ready yet & a soft reset would set them up better to move forward. My goal is to get the best fitting C next to Zion I possibly think I can. That's not Claxton, Allen who doesn't take 3's. My plan is to trade risk proven value for unproven to find that ideal fit & think that target is Sarr. As a result of Zion's uncertainty, I also prefer the cost & control of the target before making any investment to go all in.

I think there's going to be a step back & trying to force fit to win now will prove costly

[louc1970]

What if Atlanta decided to cash it all in and go full rebuild.

Rockets trade Jalen Green, Adams, #3
Rockets receive Okongwu, Murray
Atlanta is not giving up Murray without getting something more valuable back, thus Green and #3. Adams is a straight swap with Okongwu.

Miami trades Herro, #15
Miami receives Adams, Green
Cost savings from Herro's contract, get a backup for Adebayo. Both on 1-year deals so either resign or let go at end of year.

Spurs trade Graham, Collins, #4, Hawks 25 FRP, Hawks 27 FRP
Spurs receive Young
Spurs send off #4 in this draft and return the Hawks' FRPs (except for swaps) for Young. Spurs get a running mate for Wemby, retain defensive players to cover for Young.

Hawks trade Murray, Okongwu and Young
Hawks receive Herro, Collins, Graham, #3 #4, #15, and 25/27 FRPs returned.
Hawks go ahead and bite the rebuild bullet and build around Herro/Johnson. At #1 they take Sarr, #3 and #4 they take 2 of Topic/Castle/Buzelis/Clingan/Knecht and at #15 either Ware/da Silva/Salaun. Sure it is a weak draft, but if Atlanta can get the role players in this draft and to put around Johnson and still have salary cap room to absorb some overpriced players while adding assets, why not do it now rather than spin in purgatory.
Go for a complete rebuild with tradeable pieces in Capela, Hunter and Bogdanovich.

Posters on the Spurs board rumored the Hawks asking price for Young was Vessell & 5 FRP's.

And it will never happen. Ask for the world early, settle on reality when you really want to deal.

[Geaux_Hawks]

Atlanta would be happy to be comparable to a 49 win team with an asset surplus.

But I think Atlanta should be more willing to take a step back on the win now talent, build a better roster for Trae-ball, and see how it develops for a year and be able to trade for pretty much anyone in the league... The current group didn’t work, doesn’t mean you don’t have time to build differently and Trae ball can keep you respectable.

The pick debt wouldn’t factor into my decision on getting the best piece long term for Atlanta. Can make a desperation move for Grant or whoever and still keep 3rd..

Ultimately, this is my stance on our off-season as well, and landing the #1 overall pick made it seem even more palatable. Nobody can completely reshape an entire roster in one off-season, and we completely need to reshuffle. Even Dallas had to start at the TDL last year, and continue making moves thru this years TDL.

For me, if we can burn a year developing a roster that fits around Trae better with Sarr and say Castle coming from the draft as your main talent influx, then the future pick debt will seem irrelevant.

If the Spurs ended up with pick 10-14 next year, chose not to swap in '26, and gained pick 20+ in '27, then the Hawks essentially lost a late lotto pick and a late FRP for the flexibility to build a better overall team around their star player.

[jayjaysee]

For me, if we can burn a year developing a roster that fits around Trae better with Sarr and say Castle coming from the draft as your main talent influx, then the future pick debt will seem irrelevant.

This is where I’m at though. The pick debt is irrelevant.

If the team can land a good fitting secondary star this offseason, sure.

Bu I’m not just labeling Ingram that just because SAS owns picks. Maybe Atlanta loves Ingram and then go ahead do the DJM/Ingram based deal.