New York and Caruso

Post #1 » by **Texas Chuck** » Wed Jun 19, 2024 8:49 pm

So this deal for me is contingent on OG re-signing--I know there is noise about that, but Knicks were so good with him that I think they just hope the health concerns don't catch them in the playoffs again and pay the man. I also think they got to pay IH the most they can if he will take it(if he walks, Knicks can adjust still).

Which makes them expensive. With Brunson due a raise and McBride a free agent in a year. But this is New York City. You have a really good team. Pay the bills.

So if they keep OG and IH, to me the questions are can you/should you upgrade Randle as the 2nd option and adding a defensive guard. Randle has been done so let's pivot to Caruso.

I think the reported Chicago asks are silly, but he's still a Bull which means the asks have been high because a team would have paid a "fair" price for him last year for sure.

So what does it take? Does the best of the 25 firsts(likely not that great) the Knicks own and the 26 Knicks 1st(top 4) get it done? Allows the Bulls to sell their fans on "we got 2 first round picks".

So my offer is Bojan/Best of MIL/NYK/WAS/DET 1st(protections mean almost certainly best of MIL/NYK)/26 NYK 1st(top 4 for 3 years, 2 2nds) for Caruso/Carter. Chicago still probably fights for a top 10 spot and Bojan still has offensive juice left I would guess. Knicks eat Carter as part of the cost of business, but now lock up that missing piece.

Too much? Not enough to get Chicago to bite? Wrong idea for NY?

esvl · Post #2 » by **esvl** » Wed Jun 19, 2024 9:57 pm

While Caruso is a “nice to have” player for every team in the league, I don’t feel that he is that “missing” piece for NYK. I would rather expect them to target a scoring wing similar to BB.

Astaluego · Post #3 » by **Astaluego** » Wed Jun 19, 2024 10:00 pm

I think the Knicks need a little more size on the Wing, a 3/4 at least 6'7 especially if Bojan is traded...they already have Hart/Donte/Mcbridge taking up a lot of minutes...DFS/Hunter that type of profile

Post #4 » by **Texas Chuck** » Wed Jun 19, 2024 10:03 pm

Astaluego wrote:I think the Knicks need a little more size on the Wing, a 3/4 at least 6'7 especially if Bojan is traded...they already have Hart/Donte/Mcbridge taking up a lot of minutes...DFS/Hunter that type of profile

I counted Hart as more of a 3/4 despite his height. He plays bigger and isn't as ideal against quicker guards.

But you may well be right as to what they need.

Richard4444 · Post #5 » by **Richard4444** » Wed Jun 19, 2024 10:08 pm

We are not trading our own picks. We are saving to give them all unprotected in a trade for a star.

R-DAWG · Post #6 » by **R-DAWG** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 1:02 am

A 1 year rental of Carusso, or being in a position to massively overpay him, is not worth 2 picks for the Knicks.

I guess in theory Carusso steps into the starting lineup and DDV moves to a 6th man role to provide scoring off the bench - the role he was originally signed for. But this doesn't move the needle enough to justify moving picks and being a 2nd apron team for the foreseeable future.

Colbinii · Post #7 » by **Colbinii** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 1:16 am

What about #24 + Bojan for Bogdan?

Post #8 » by **Texas Chuck** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:08 am

Colbinii wrote:What about #24 + Bojan for Bogdan?

I was targeting defense. Brunson, DDV, Mcbride all give them offense from the guard spot, so I was targeting a defender. I don't mind the value at all and Bogdan is a nice player, just not the target I was after.

Colbinii · Post #9 » by **Colbinii** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:24 am

Texas Chuck wrote:
Colbinii wrote:What about #24 + Bojan for Bogdan?

I was targeting defense. Brunson, DDV, Mcbride all give them offense from the guard spot, so I was targeting a defender. I don't mind the value at all and Bogdan is a nice player, just not the target I was after.

That makes sense.

Godaddycurse · Post #10 » by **Godaddycurse** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:32 am

if IH leaves then i think a Bogey + best 2025 FRP for DFS + Sharpe makes sense.

JeffFosters · Post #11 » by **JeffFosters** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:42 am

Richard4444 wrote:We are not trading our own picks. We are saving to give them all unprotected in a trade for a star.

I suspect the Knicks will hang on to BB’s expiring to facilitate such a trade. The Knicks are ready to swing for the fence, not make a sideways trade.

cgf · Post #12 » by **cgf** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:59 pm

Bogey + 2 FRPs...none of them future Knicks picks...still makes sense to me. I know it seems crazy but AC is such a defensive monster that our defense would just be dominant with him & OG flanking Brundle in our closing lineup. I can't help but drool while thinking about anyone trying to score on a crunch-time group of:

Brunson - Caruso - Anunoby - Randle - RobinHart