og15 wrote:jengmann3 wrote:I mean I really don't want to see pg go. It did sound like he was leaning towards leaving on the podcast. I liked the pg kawhi pairing and tho it's been burdened by injury 20 and 21 were pretty close to what I expected to see out of them. Joe Ingles changed basketball history, jk. The last two years have been pretty good for them production wise but it did always feel they were battling injury and I think both are half a step slower.
But I don't mind the idea of rebuilding or trying something else out. Jvg and ty lue love basketball and r good basketball minds.
I still think with no picks u go for it. No super long term deals. The toughest part is the lack of assets. I know the Celtics r the most talented team in the league basically and brad Stevens was a mad scientist but I like how they have 5 threats on the floor. Even when u plug in Al Horford or Pritchard it's still 5 solid ball players. I hope the Clips can move towards that. Obviously extremely hard but it's really about the right pieces. The playoffs always make u think of two ways pieces or elite defenders.
Celtics were set up by a terrible Billy King trade, they are just not a replicable type of roster for 99 percent of situations and without some serious luck. It's the same as a team like the 03-04 Pistons.
You have to get players the caliber of Billups and Ben on bargain contracts and then have a guy like Sheed traded to your for peanuts. The KD Warriors, a guy like Steph on a discount contract due to early career injuries and then a cap spike to allow you to sign that player.
You can't really plan for those types of teams, but if you get one you have to milk it to the fullest extent.
Celtics are headed towards paying a 9-figure luxury tax, like the Warriors and Clippers have been paying. That may be ultimately what keeps them from having a long run at titles.
Adam Silver clearly wants parity like the NFL where even the worst teams can rebuild themselves into playoff teams in 3-4 seasons, because the idea is that it ultimately is the best for the economic prospects of the league.
His predecessor thought opposite, wanted the biggest stars to have rivalries (Magic vs. Bird) so he tilted the competitive terrain towards have a long rivalry between the biggest superstars.
Silver has engineered the CBA so that the cap can't move up too much, even though the NBA is on the verge of finalizing an almost tripling of TV money.
So the financial incentives are to start dismantling rosters (shed salaries to get under the aprons) by the time teams have at least 2 players taking up 35% of the cap each.
The way franchises can have long runs as contenders in the future will be GM malpractice of the type Billy King is guilty of or on a lower level, the Wizards giving away certain players (Porzingis) and giving out max contracts to others like Beale.
