Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Darvin Returns

[emunney]

If Brook is this valuable, why are the Bucks interested in trading him? If they didn't have him, they'd probably be at the top of the list of teams looking to acquire him, right?

Are they interested in trading him? I haven't seen any indication of that. All the rumors at the deadline were about Bobby.

[JonHeist]

If Brook is this valuable, why are the Bucks interested in trading him? If they didn't have him, they'd probably be at the top of the list of teams looking to acquire him, right?

exactly, which is why we probably won't trade him -- and definitely won't be attaching an asset to him for Bruce Brown

[yb90]

Bruce Brown is a 3 and D guy who doesn't really shoot the 3 well. He's a poor man's Josh Hart.

[raferfenix]

Are they interested in trading him? I haven't seen any indication of that. All the rumors at the deadline were about Bobby.

KOC hearing “rumblings” about the Bucks wanting to be more versatile on defense is one thing.

He then says it “raises the question of whether Brook Lopez has a future there” which seems more speculative.

If we were to trade Lopez it’s not like running with Bobby more would improve our defense. We’d need another move at least.

Bucks could also just bring Brook off the bench and still make a bigger change on D.

[raferfenix]

I'm not a Brook guy but I haven't engaged in Brook trades as I didn't think the Bucks would consider it.

Bobby definitely has been linked to more trades.

But that was also before the 2nd apron. It’d be simpler for us not to have to duck it just to aggregate salaries.

There could also be teams who are still win now but would value Lopez’s big ending contract (and bird rights if they want to resign him at a steep discount).

Golden State comes to mind in particular if they keep Klay and prefer to drop Wiggins’ salary.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

If Brook is this valuable, why are the Bucks interested in trading him? If they didn't have him, they'd probably be at the top of the list of teams looking to acquire him, right?

I don't think it is that BroLo is that valuable, more so we don't think a guy who has been a part-time starter his whole career and is a bad shooter / undersized is that valuable. That is why Brown has bounced around the league a lot and has been traded multiple times.

[Dick Tate]

The Bucks shouldn't need to attach a draft pick if they elected to trade Brook's expiring contract.
Bobby or Pat on the other hand... those player options put out a bad odor.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

What would our lineup be with Brown? I feel we would either suck defensively or have bad spacing?

Bobby
Giannis
Midds
Brown
Dame?

Giannis
Midds
Brown
Beas
Dame?

[Ron Swanson]

The best way is still a Bobby trade that nets you a legit 3&D guy at SG or AJJ/Marjon developing into that dude. But flipping Brook for Bruce Brown and then drafting Ryan Dunn pretty much instantly solves your "switching defense" problem both now and in the immediate future. I've long maintained that finding a "Brook replacement" was always going to be a futile cause. You're not replacing such a uniquely impactful player with late draft picks and vet minimum contracts, so why bother wasting what little assets we have on the idea? Just pivot to Giannis as your primary big and sign/acquire a cheaper 7-footer to eat the minutes when he's off the floor.

[DingleJerry]

And going from having the slowest big in the NBA to the most athletic one (brook to Giannis) helps a lot with the "team seems slow and unathletic" issue

[fansinceforever]

If the prevailing opinion around here is that all we need is a legit 3/D guy, shouldn't we just be looking to pair both picks with Bobby to get that player?

That isn't my belief at all but if that's your opinion then why create another hole by moving Brook? We can't start Bobby.

Just use Bobby, picks and whatever young guy they might have interest in to get X player.

[Baddy Chuck]

If Brook is this valuable, why are the Bucks interested in trading him? If they didn't have him, they'd probably be at the top of the list of teams looking to acquire him, right?

Maybe they think another "valuable" player could present them with a better opportunity to win, crazy I know.

[ReasonablySober]

The best way is still a Bobby trade that nets you a legit 3&D guy at SG or AJJ/Marjon developing into that dude. But flipping Brook for Bruce Brown and then drafting Ryan Dunn pretty much instantly solves your "switching defense" problem both now and in the immediate future. I've long maintained that finding a "Brook replacement" was always going to be a futile cause. You're not replacing such a uniquely impactful player with late draft picks and vet minimum contracts, so why bother wasting what little assets we have on the idea? Just pivot to Giannis as your primary big and sign/acquire a cheaper 7-footer to eat the minutes when he's off the floor.

It's a good idea in theory, but Giannis has yet to give any indication he's fine being the primary big on the court.

[SupremeHustle]

Could easily see the Bucks moving #23 and Lopez for Brown.

Gross. There shouldn't be any need for us to throw a 1st in here. They'd be flipping Brook to a 3rd team for another draft asset, and there's no way that Bruce Brown is worth multiple 1st round picks.

We have to give Toronto a pick if we trade with them. It's the Greivis Vásquez rule.

[SupremeHustle]

What would our lineup be with Brown? I feel we would either suck defensively or have bad spacing?

Bobby
Giannis
Midds
Brown
Dame?

Giannis
Midds
Brown
Beas
Dame?

Beas coming back? I don't see it.

[ShootingtheJ]

The Bucks shouldn't need to attach a draft pick if they elected to trade Brook's expiring contract.
Bobby or Pat on the other hand... those player options put out a bad odor.

Bobby's player option is bad? He's opting out, he'll double his money.

[JayMKE]

Not trading Brook for Brown straight let alone attaching a pick, team would still suck ass defensively on perimeter and would have zero rim protection other than Giannis.

[ShootingtheJ]

I'm not a Brook guy but I haven't engaged in Brook trades as I didn't think the Bucks would consider it.

Bobby definitely has been linked to more trades.

But that was also before the 2nd apron. It’d be simpler for us not to have to duck it just to aggregate salaries.

There could also be teams who are still win now but would value Lopez’s big ending contract (and bird rights if they want to resign him at a steep discount).

Golden State comes to mind in particular if they keep Klay and prefer to drop Wiggins’ salary.

I'm guessing the desire to move Brook didn't happen until Doc saw him get smoked in the playoffs. Teams are far more willing to adjust and attack in a playoff series than they are in the regular season.

Based on the latest news, I wouldn't be surprised if they move both. I'll be shocked if they keep Bobby. It would be bad use of a good asset.

[machu46]

I would have thought Toronto would be including an asset in the Brook-Brown swap if anything. Doesn’t feel like a good use of Brook to me but if that’s the sort of philosophical shift they want to make, it is what it is.


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[jimmybones]

I'm so all in on the use Giannis as primary big train, I wish he'd go for it.

It also doesn't have to mean Brook is gone, he's be a great backup big