2025 NBA Draft Class

[_jin]

What’s the lowdown on Demin’s game?

He's a PG in a SF body who plays like a SG. He's 6'9", he's mostly a scorer, good shooter from 3 and midrange. Used to drive a lot more and more effectively but as he's getting older and facing better competition his speed is becoming a problem against most guards, he's fast for a 6'9" guy but not fast enough to blow by guards. He's a decent passer with good vision but will look for his shot before passing. He averaged 18p 9r 3a in the ANGT finals, had a game against MEGA where he took almost 20 shots and didnt have an assist. His defense is pretty good but needs a lot of work. He's the kind of player who catches the eye because he's very skilled with the ball and has great handles. He's mostly played PG but he's probably a NBA SG or SF.
I dont really like the move to BYU for him from a basketball and improvement standpoint but considering he's russian it also makes sense.

[SeattleJazzFan]

What’s the lowdown on Demin’s game?

He's a PG in a SF body who plays like a SG. He's 6'9", he's mostly a scorer, good shooter from 3 and midrange. Used to drive a lot more and more effectively but as he's getting older and facing better competition his speed is becoming a problem against most guards, he's fast for a 6'9" guy but not fast enough to blow by guards. He's a decent passer with good vision but will look for his shot before passing. He averaged 18p 9r 3a in the ANGT finals, had a game against MEGA where he took almost 20 shots and didnt have an assist. His defense is pretty good but needs a lot of work. He's the kind of player who catches the eye because he's very skilled with the ball and has great handles. He's mostly played PG but he's probably a NBA SG or SF.
I dont really like the move to BYU for him from a basketball and improvement standpoint but considering he's russian it also makes sense.

on this point, it's impossible to say. hard to beat big12 competition for a guy wanting to play against the best, but kevin young's offense and ability to develop 18 year olds at that level is a mystery. the nice thing about BYU is he will be playing 28-32 minutes a night guaranteed and his teammates will be good enough where the team will be able to compete every night and he won't be on an island.

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really this class is also extremely lucky that Flagg reclassed and (so far) Traore, Hugo and Demin look legit. otherwise it would've been another disaster.

I think it’d still be better than this year’s without Flagg. Bailey has more potential than someone like Holland who was his equivalent at this point last year. I think Bailey has outlier athleticism, whereas I’ve always thought Holland was overrated as an athlete, much like Scoot last year.

It is a bit lacking after that though (in terms of American prospects). If Harper shows he can be a star (rather than an NBA 3rd option), that’d help. Tre Johnson’s the other one in my eyes who could elevate to that level if his offensive game translates as elite.

[RyugaFan]

I don't consider Ace an outlier athlete, just a very good one. He may have have a higher ceiling than Holland due to his shotmaking potential.

[Chuck Everett]

I'm still most intrigued for Asa Newell of the HS class. Also VJ Edgecombe should be a walking highlight reel at Baylor. Much better athlete than JaKobe Walter is.

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on this point, it's impossible to say. hard to beat big12 competition for a guy wanting to play against the best , but kevin young's offense and ability to develop 18 year olds at that level is a mystery. the nice thing about BYU is he will be playing 28-32 minutes a night guaranteed and his teammates will be good enough where the team will be able to compete every night and he won't be on an island.

Staying in Europe and playing in an adult pro league???? Coming over might help him get drafted higher though.

[Pokuokic]

Filip Jovic (no relation to Nikola), has had 3 good to great games in the KLS semi-finals against a Euroleague squad in Partizan, I would say he's a more athletic blend of Tyler Hansbourgh and Eduardo Najara/really really crap Sabonis, he's a bit smallish at 6'8 as a PF/C with primitive but effective skills and extremely physical despite not looking strong.

His energy/motor is elite he plays with insane intensity, he's good pushing the ball in a straight line with his speed, his shoot is not bad but slow. I think one more season with Mega and him being one of the main guys and getting even stronger this upcoming season will make or break him in terms of NBA but at worst (barring injury) I think he will be a Euroleague player with some potential as a energy big who can cause chaos off the bench in the NBA.

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[clyde21]

i love serbs but man yall gotta diversify your name portfolio

[SeattleJazzFan]

on this point, it's impossible to say. hard to beat big12 competition for a guy wanting to play against the best , but kevin young's offense and ability to develop 18 year olds at that level is a mystery. the nice thing about BYU is he will be playing 28-32 minutes a night guaranteed and his teammates will be good enough where the team will be able to compete every night and he won't be on an island.

Staying in Europe and playing in an adult pro league???? Coming over might help him get drafted higher though.

if that's his argument, then his issue isn't that he's choosing to play for BYU, it's that he's choosing college basketball.

[Catchall]

Cooper Flagg is going to be better than Tatum. He plays more forcefully and already has more of an in-between game.

[babyjax13]

I'm so excited to watch this draft class instead of 2024 lol. Right now I think there are 6 guys who look like better prospects than Sarr (guessing it doesn't finish with that many), and at least 8-12 guys better than the # 2 guy on my board, Kyshawn George (but I could say this about Ron Holland, Nikola Topic, etc. who are more typical choices). Again, probably doesn't end with quite that many, but this looks like a good group of players at the moment.

Not sure it is an outlier class, though, I'm thinking more likely just above average, but that could change if a lot of these guys translate to their next level (college, etc.). 2026 is the draft that really looks special to me: Dybantsa, Boozer, and Quaintance all look really nice.

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Is Gavalyugov a legit prospect? He just committed to Villanova...

[pohani komarac]

Ivan Bogdanović 6'8 19 year old cousin of Bojan Bogdanović started to bloom lately. Next season he could have break out season. Some NBA scouts got hyped about his late development

https://youtu.be/_8QtWcjr76A?si=mkfjk_kMV96GsccB

[clyde21]

Berke Buyuktuncel -> Nebraska
Coleman Hawkins -> Kansas St
Sion James -> Duke
Jaxson Robinson -> Kentucky
Wooga Poplar -> Villanova
Norchad Omier -> Baylor
Miro Little -> Utah
Ugonna Onyenso -> Kansas St
Felix Okpara -> Tennessee

[Chuck Everett]

FYI, Dink Pate is ineligible for the 2024 NBA draft (as was expected), but this has been confirmed. He has to play elsewhere (G-League, NBL, Europe) for one more year before the 2025 draft.

[SeattleJazzFan]

Kanon Catchings to BYU. Prototypical NBA size, athleticism and skillset. I think he could very easily sneak into the lottery.

[clyde21]

i've pretty much officially moved to this class at this point

few quick notes

- if Carter Bryant's athleticism catches up his body look out...a lot to like there just needs to hit that athletic threshold
- kinda the same boat for Freeman, good baseline but needs hit more of a core strength threshold
- Jackson/Johnson/Bethea/Edgecombe all look overranked to me...standard issue combo guys who will look good scoring the ball but kinda meh otherwise
- McNeely looks okay, possibility that he's not a 1AD type
- big class looks putrid if your top guys are either Maluach or two undersized guys in JQ and Queen - gonna most likely have to rely on returning players for this position (Ivisic? Bradshaw?)

[clyde21]

without the benefit of seeing how these guys are in college how many 25 guys would go ahead of every 24 guy if everyone was in the same draft today?

i'd say at least 3 in Flagg, Traore and Bailey all would go 1-2-3 in this draft

[FarBeyondDriven]

without the benefit of seeing how these guys are in college how many 25 guys would go ahead of every 24 guy if everyone was in the same draft today?

i'd say at least 3 in Flagg, Traore and Bailey all would go 1-2-3 in this draft

I mean this is a ridiculous convo, you're ranking these 2025 guys before they play a single dribble in college against class post college...that's not how any of this works. (see how silly this sounds?)

[clyde21]

without the benefit of seeing how these guys are in college how many 25 guys would go ahead of every 24 guy if everyone was in the same draft today?

i'd say at least 3 in Flagg, Traore and Bailey all would go 1-2-3 in this draft

I mean this is a ridiculous convo, you're ranking these 2025 guys before they play a single dribble in college against class post college...that's not how any of this works. (see how silly this sounds?)

no **** it's not how it works, that's why it's a hypothetical

if teams were given a chance today to draft anyone from the 2025 draft, how many would go above any player in this class? if your answer is zero that's fine, say zero.