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Re: Paul George basically confirming he's out of there! 

Post#41 » by Tor_Raps » Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:45 am

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floppymoose wrote:Noooooooooo! I need Orlando to sign Klay. Dont kill my dream!!!!


A Warriors fan begging Klay to leave? Talk about no loyalty to the man lol.

Im hoping you guys re-sign Klay so you're forced to trade Wiggins to the Raptors to cut budget lol.


Why not both? Im happy to let Klay walk *and* trade Wiggins to the Raptors.


Well... we only want him if you guys are desperate to get off him. We're not giving anything of value to take his contract. We'd actually expect an asset back just for that lol.
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Post#42 » by Onlytimewilltel » Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:51 am

RookieStar wrote:Who is probably more expensive though? Him or Klay?

How is this a serious question
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Post#43 » by FarBeyondDriven » Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:10 am

JustBuzzin wrote:https://youtu.be/7VEbjNiZO1E?t=4710

;t=4710s

That was the end of the clip, but throughout the interview he talked about Pablo Banchero and the Orlando Magic a lot. I'm just putting pieces together, but that does seem like a team that plays the right way and not necessarily a contending team.

This is not suprising to me. PG has been my favorite player since his Indiana days. I have always said he's not necessarily looking for a championship. He basically admitted that in this clip.

I think PG is signing with Orlando.


Thoughts?


I mean, they are already a contender having made the playoffs. They've got one of the best young cores in the league. Paul George would give them a top 3 starting lineup in the NBA and they still have assets to make other moves.
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Post#44 » by GeorgeSears » Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:13 am

If PG goes to Orlando over Philly, that's a "comfort" move. Meaning, he's going there because of the weather and taxes, and not because he's serious about winning.

Not to disparage the Magic, who I picked as dark horse team before the season, but they're not ready yet to take that next step until Paolo really rounds out his game and some of their other players mature. They're still about 2-3 years away from scaring teams.

Philly's ready to win now. He would be playing alongside Embiid and Maxey. There would be little pressure on him to carry the load.
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Re: Paul George basically confirming he's out of there! 

Post#45 » by FarBeyondDriven » Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:16 am

Memories wrote:Magic would be an excellent fit for George. The only issue is that they would still have issues of not having a Point Guard at all, but this lineup is still very solid:

Jalen Suggs
Paul George
Franz Wagner
Paolo Banchero
Wendell Carter Jr

I think something does have to give with Suggs however, because I have a feeling with in that lineup, it would be too many cooks. They need a true facilitator, or someone to focus on spot up shooting at PG. Someone like DeAngelo Russell would work well here.


The offense runs through the wings so a traditional PG isn't necessary. What they'd need is more shooters and they have the assets to get one, maybe Monk
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Post#46 » by Pantsman » Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:16 am

I really hope PG is smart enough to not listen to that moron harden who has burnt every bridge he has come across.
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Re: Paul George basically confirming he's out of there! 

Post#47 » by RookieStar » Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:28 am

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RookieStar wrote:Who is probably more expensive though? Him or Klay?

How is this a serious question


What makes it not? Unless you are in the camps of these 2 players, we dont know the eaxct figure they might delude themselves of wanting and deserving.
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Post#48 » by Eyeamok » Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:29 am

Residual-Heat wrote:I have not listened to the full podcast, but PG being a 6'9 two way player that can do a little bit of everything.. I definitely think he's the type of player the Magic FO loves. Its a good destination for PG. Sixers are a great destination too, but there is this mess that happened between Morey and Harden that could affect his decision.

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I still dont really expect him to sign with the Magic though.


If he signs with Philly his contract would be guaranteed. So what's the worry? Morey paid Harden well throughout the years and when Harden could no longer produce as a max player Morey did not want to pay him max money. What is strange about that? Even if Morey "promised" Harden Max money and did not come through on his "promise", Morey's first obligation is to his employer, the 76ers. He made the right decision, But as I said none of these concerns are Paul George's concerns with signing with Philly.

Also if PG is not concerned with winning a title then what is the point of a team signing him to a max near max contract? Just so he can play well in the regular season and then mail it in during the playoffs?
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Re: Paul George basically confirming he's out of there! 

Post#49 » by Chuck Everett » Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:44 am

GeorgeSears wrote:If PG goes to Orlando over Philly, that's a "comfort" move. Meaning, he's going there because of the weather and taxes, and not because he's serious about winning.

Not to disparage the Magic, who I picked as dark horse team before the season, but they're not ready yet to take that next step until Paolo really rounds out his game and some of their other players mature. They're still about 2-3 years away from scaring teams.

Philly's ready to win now. He would be playing alongside Embiid and Maxey. There would be little pressure on him to carry the load.


I partially agree, but I don't believe Orlando is as far away as the collective may think. If PG started next to Suggs/Paolo and Franz, with their elite defense already, they would have the kind of talent that could theoretically go blow for blow with Boston, even while being younger. He would actually have less pressure than he would in Philadelphia. If he went to Philly, the expectation is that they need to be a title contender and if he doesn't live up to a MAX deal at his advancing age, the media/fans will eviscerate him. In Orlando, his job would be more talented sage vet.

Basically, I am saying if PG signs with Orlando, they vault to top 3 in the East (behind Boston and healthy New York) in my rankings.
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Post#50 » by doogie_hauser » Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:45 am

GeorgeSears wrote:If PG goes to Orlando over Philly, that's a "comfort" move. Meaning, he's going there because of the weather and taxes, and not because he's serious about winning.

Not to disparage the Magic, who I picked as dark horse team before the season, but they're not ready yet to take that next step until Paolo really rounds out his game and some of their other players mature. They're still about 2-3 years away from scaring teams.

Philly's ready to win now. He would be playing alongside Embiid and Maxey. There would be little pressure on him to carry the load.


Philly haven't made it past the 2nd round of the East playoffs since 2001.

I hardly think they are in any position to say they are closer to contention than Orlando, esp as Embiid is getting older and more injury prone.

You are not even a top 4 team in the East anymore, right now it's (in order) Celtics, Knicks, Bucks and Pacers.
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Post#51 » by pipfan » Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:10 am

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GeorgeSears wrote:If PG goes to Orlando over Philly, that's a "comfort" move. Meaning, he's going there because of the weather and taxes, and not because he's serious about winning.

Not to disparage the Magic, who I picked as dark horse team before the season, but they're not ready yet to take that next step until Paolo really rounds out his game and some of their other players mature. They're still about 2-3 years away from scaring teams.

Philly's ready to win now. He would be playing alongside Embiid and Maxey. There would be little pressure on him to carry the load.


I partially agree, but I don't believe Orlando is as far away as the collective may think. If PG started next to Suggs/Paolo and Franz, with their elite defense already, they would have the kind of talent that could theoretically go blow for blow with Boston, even while being younger. He would actually have less pressure than he would in Philadelphia. If he went to Philly, the expectation is that they need to be a title contender and if he doesn't live up to a MAX deal at his advancing age, the media/fans will eviscerate him. In Orlando, his job would be more talented sage vet.

Basically, I am saying if PG signs with Orlando, they vault to top 3 in the East (behind Boston and healthy New York) in my rankings.

I think Orl gets better next year, just for their youth improving
You add PG13, who can coast in the RS there, they might be the best team in the East, or 2nd best. I'd take them over everyone but Boston for sure

Problem in Philly is no depth, and PG13 would be depending on Embiid-who's an incredible player but his playoff performances have to be doubted
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Re: Paul George basically confirming he's out of there! 

Post#52 » by Onlytimewilltel » Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:32 am

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RookieStar wrote:Who is probably more expensive though? Him or Klay?

How is this a serious question


What makes it not? Unless you are in the camps of these 2 players, we dont know the eaxct figure they might delude themselves of wanting and deserving.


It’s just not. Did you watch the season? Paul George is still an all star, and Klay looks like he should be playing in China for Pete’s sake :lol: That’s why it’s not a serious question
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Post#53 » by ejftw » Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:38 am

GeorgeSears wrote:If PG goes to Orlando over Philly, that's a "comfort" move. Meaning, he's going there because of the weather and taxes, and not because he's serious about winning.

Not to disparage the Magic, who I picked as dark horse team before the season, but they're not ready yet to take that next step until Paolo really rounds out his game and some of their other players mature. They're still about 2-3 years away from scaring teams.

Philly's ready to win now. He would be playing alongside Embiid and Maxey. There would be little pressure on him to carry the load.


Orlando is young and has other avenues of improving besides organic growth from the youth.

Philly would be little different than staying at home with his childhood club, as they'd be one PG or Joel injury away from play in status.
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Re: Paul George basically confirming he's out of there! 

Post#54 » by shi-woo » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:41 am

Grown men in their 30's are not signing on to play with a team that has the average age of a college junior. PG is not that dude.

I'm still shocked that there are still people who think this guy still cares about basketball. He's like Drey at this point, he's moved on from the game and is more focused on being a celebrity than being it star. He cares about money, not winning. Achieving fame not glory.

He told us a decade ago he was going home to LA, and he did just that. He's not leaving, even if the team was lottery bound and winning single digit games. This is just a play to get as much years from the Clips as he can. He knows they have the new arena, and Kawhi is a sunk cost contract. He wants his money, and he wants the years, and he wants it in LA surrounded by beaches and bitches. Nothing more nothing less.

This dude is already retired from the game, mentally, and has been for a long time.
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Post#55 » by yoadknux » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:42 am

Unpopular opinion but I don't believe professional athlethes should have side careers, I don't want a star player to maintain a podcast / online content creation or release records. Once this happens it all becomes about the brand and not about competing/improving/winning
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Post#56 » by TheAlchemist » Thu Jun 20, 2024 7:07 am

I kind of want him to go to the Knicks, maybe a sign and trade for Randle? Or sign PG not OG?

Would look pretty good helping Brunson out.
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Post#57 » by 7r5ur » Thu Jun 20, 2024 7:16 am

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All I heard was the part where he said he didn't care about being on a contender :lol:
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Re: Paul George basically confirming he's out of there! 

Post#58 » by FeatheryTouch » Thu Jun 20, 2024 8:19 am

If I'm Orlando I steer clear of giving a declining PG a huge bag and keep my cap clean for a younger player (a point guard, let's be real)that's a better match for their timeline and needs.

IMO the Magic should consider using assets to try to snag Garland from the Cavs, he might be available and would be a much better long-term fit.
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Re: Paul George basically confirming he's out of there! 

Post#59 » by RookieStar » Thu Jun 20, 2024 8:34 am

Onlytimewilltel wrote:
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Onlytimewilltel wrote: How is this a serious question


What makes it not? Unless you are in the camps of these 2 players, we dont know the eaxct figure they might delude themselves of wanting and deserving.


It’s just not. Did you watch the season? Paul George is still an all star, and Klay looks like he should be playing in China for Pete’s sake :lol: That’s why it’s not a serious question


It is. If Klay declined GSW earlier proposal and eecided to enter FA, theb that would mean he is ( rightly or wrongly ) deluded himself that he is worth more. Thats why i asked the question, not who is deserving but who is more expensive in their asking price.
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Post#60 » by Almond2Oak » Thu Jun 20, 2024 8:36 am

GeorgeSears wrote:If PG goes to Orlando over Philly, that's a "comfort" move. Meaning, he's going there because of the weather and taxes, and not because he's serious about winning.


Then he should sign with Dallas, TX has no income taxes.

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