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Post#1061 » by gambitx777 » Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:23 am

mhd wrote:Interesting idea from the trade board. A GSW fan was wanting to dump the last year of Payton's deal. We have the Monte Morris exception slot that Payton could fit into. I offered to lower the protections from top 20 protected to top 14 protected for the 2030 first rounder and the GSW fan accepted it. I think it is a great trade as it gives us another movable expiring in GP3 in a BOYD deal near the deadline while giving us increased odds on getting a future 1st in 2030.
Since ducking tax and super tax penalties are gonna be so valuable moving on.

I'd say it's gonna cost them a second and lowering the protections to top 5 protected.

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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1062 » by payitforward » Wed Jun 19, 2024 2:10 pm

tsvqt wrote:Portland trades: Delano Banton, picks #7, #14, #34
Wizards trade: Picks #2, #26, #52

I've proposed more or less the same trade -- except we get their #40, which I would by far prefer instead of Blanton.
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Post#1063 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:22 pm

I’m starting to think we should trade Corey.
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Post#1064 » by dckingsfan » Wed Jun 19, 2024 8:34 pm

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:I’m starting to think we should trade Corey.

Well, depending on the FO draft plans, I would "ass"u "me" that the FO would make Kispert, Holmes and Bagley available for future assets?

I would think that would allow some that want to dodge the luxury tax in 2025 of moving assets for expiring contracts.

@Nate (or others), how much salary can we take on (in a rational sense) this year for draft assets without moving a player?
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Post#1065 » by nate33 » Wed Jun 19, 2024 8:48 pm

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SUPERBALLMAN wrote:I’m starting to think we should trade Corey.

Well, depending on the FO draft plans, I would "ass"u "me" that the FO would make Kispert, Holmes and Bagley available for future assets?

I would think that would allow some that want to dodge the luxury tax in 2025 of moving assets for expiring contracts.

@Nate (or others), how much salary can we take on (in a rational sense) this year for draft assets without moving a player?

We don't really have any meaningful cap room after we account for the cap hit of our two draft picks. (It's something like $6M assuming we waive Tyus and Shamet). Our ability to trade cap room for assets is due to a couple of substantial TPE's that we have ($12.4M, $9.8M, and $5.3M). Those TPE's will be equally as useful whether or not we trade away Kispert. So there's no argument to trade Kispert for the sake of cap space. The only argument to trade him is if the return, by itself, is perceived as more valuable than Kispert.

In Summer 2025, our cap situation gets even better. We will have a payroll of just $103M plus the cost of Kispert resigned and our 2025 draft pick. So assuming $15M and $12M respectively, that will bring our payroll up to $130M while the salary cap limit will be $155M. So that's $25M in cap room even after accounting for a resigned Kispert. Heck, we will probably be looking to sign someone else just to meet the salary floor.

The TLDR version is that there is no compelling cap room argument to trade Kispert. Sure, trade Kispert if you think the return you will get is better than Kispert himself. But don't go looking for reasons to trade him. He is a good player, a good fit in the locker room, and at the moment, an integral fit on the court as one of the few guys who can reliably provide spacing. We are the 6th worst 3-point shooting team in the league.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1066 » by nate33 » Wed Jun 19, 2024 8:51 pm

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:I’m starting to think we should trade Corey.

I don't see why.

If you can get a really good return, then, sure, anyone can be traded. But I don't really see any team out there that is in position to value Kispert significantly more than we value him, so I doubt there is a mutually beneficial trade available.
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Post#1067 » by 9 and 20 » Wed Jun 19, 2024 9:14 pm

I'd trade 2/26 for 4/8, but not 2 for 7/14. 7/14 seems way too cheap to trade into the top of the draft.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1068 » by spaceman_E » Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:42 am

nate33 wrote:
SUPERBALLMAN wrote:I’m starting to think we should trade Corey.

I don't see why.

If you can get a really good return, then, sure, anyone can be traded. But I don't really see any team out there that is in position to value Kispert significantly more than we value him, so I doubt there is a mutually beneficial trade available.


wouldn't any of the "all-in" 2nd apron teams love to save money and acquire anyone that is cheap and can play? Wiz would have to take on a Connaughton, Little or Nnaji contract of course and we don't seem to value distant unprotected picks.
And I hope your 25 cap projection does not include 4th years of Johnny or PBJ :upset:
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Post#1069 » by tontoz » Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:48 am

9 and 20 wrote:I'd trade 2/26 for 4/8, but not 2 for 7/14. 7/14 seems way too cheap to trade into the top of the draft.


The top of this draft it's weak point. Pretty sure nobody in this draft would have gone top 5 in last years draft.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1070 » by dckingsfan » Thu Jun 20, 2024 1:40 am

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dckingsfan wrote:
SUPERBALLMAN wrote:I’m starting to think we should trade Corey.

Well, depending on the FO draft plans, I would "ass"u "me" that the FO would make Kispert, Holmes and Bagley available for future assets?

I would think that would allow some that want to dodge the luxury tax in 2025 of moving assets for expiring contracts.

@Nate (or others), how much salary can we take on (in a rational sense) this year for draft assets without moving a player?

We don't really have any meaningful cap room after we account for the cap hit of our two draft picks. (It's something like $6M assuming we waive Tyus and Shamet). Our ability to trade cap room for assets is due to a couple of substantial TPE's that we have ($12.4M, $9.8M, and $5.3M). Those TPE's will be equally as useful whether or not we trade away Kispert. So there's no argument to trade Kispert for the sake of cap space. The only argument to trade him is if the return, by itself, is perceived as more valuable than Kispert.

In Summer 2025, our cap situation gets even better. We will have a payroll of just $103M plus the cost of Kispert resigned and our 2025 draft pick. So assuming $15M and $12M respectively, that will bring our payroll up to $130M while the salary cap limit will be $155M. So that's $25M in cap room even after accounting for a resigned Kispert. Heck, we will probably be looking to sign someone else just to meet the salary floor.

The TLDR version is that there is no compelling cap room argument to trade Kispert. Sure, trade Kispert if you think the return you will get is better than Kispert himself. But don't go looking for reasons to trade him. He is a good player, a good fit in the locker room, and at the moment, an integral fit on the court as one of the few guys who can reliably provide spacing. We are the 6th worst 3-point shooting team in the league.

Very helpful, thanks.

I guess that goes for Holmes and Bagley as well. Either we get a "better asset(s)" back or they just contribute to having cap flexibility the following year. I would think that all three might be helpful around a trade deadline move as well.

Pretty good place to be really.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1071 » by dckingsfan » Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:01 am

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nate33 wrote:
SUPERBALLMAN wrote:I’m starting to think we should trade Corey.

I don't see why.

If you can get a really good return, then, sure, anyone can be traded. But I don't really see any team out there that is in position to value Kispert significantly more than we value him, so I doubt there is a mutually beneficial trade available.

wouldn't any of the "all-in" 2nd apron teams love to save money and acquire anyone that is cheap and can play? Wiz would have to take on a Connaughton, Little or Nnaji contract of course and we don't seem to value distant unprotected picks.
And I hope your 25 cap projection does not include 4th years of Johnny or PBJ :upset:

Without accounting for our draft picks in '25 we would have (but maybe I am missing something?!?

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Jordan Poole     $31,848,215
Kyle Kuzma       $21,477,272
Deni Avdija      $14,375,000
Bilal Coulibaly   $7,275,600
Patrick Baldwin   $4,420,156
Jared Butler      $2,381,501
Payroll Total    $81,777,744


With Coulibaly, Baldwin and Butler being team options.
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Post#1072 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:55 am

Kuzma to Kings?

https://lastwordonsports.com/basketball/2024/06/18/nba-rumors-kings-wizards-discuss-kyle-kuzma-trade/

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NBA Rumors: West Contender to Discuss Kyle Kuzma Trade

Washington Wizards forward Kyle Kuzma, Sacramento Kings trade target

The Sacramento Kings and Washington Wizards “are expected to renew conversations” about forward Kyle Kuzma this offseason, per Action Network’s Matt Moore. The teams are rumored to have discussed deals surrounding Kuzma since last summer.


Kings to Discuss Kyle Kuzma Trade

For the Kings, the motivation to acquire Kuzma is simple.

A go-to scorer with playmaking skills, he can lighten the load for De’Aaron Fox and Domantas Sabonis. He can also do damage from the perimeter, converting 39.1 percent of his career corner 3s. As he’s not the best off-ball threat, there will be some ‘my turn, your turn’ offense. Nonetheless, because of the way his passing ability can blend with Fox’s growth as a 3-point shooter and Sabonis’s three-level scoring, they’ll be comfortable putting the ball in his hands.

Zaccharie Risacher’s Importance
If the Wizards end up selecting 2024 NBA Draft prospect Zaccharie Risacher, Kuzma will likely become more attainable.

Washington already has three other starting-caliber forwards in their rotation in Deni Avdija, Corey Kispert, and Bilal Coulibaly. However, Risacher has their best parts of their skillset and few of their weaknesses. Furthermore, Kispert will be on the final year of his contract in 2024-25. Even more to the point, though Kispert is the most efficient 3-point threat among their forward rotation, he’s also the group’s worst defender. As a result, he’s likely regarded as expendable, especially if they can replace him with a player who has Risacher’s skillset.

Lastly, the French connection is obvious. In fact, Coulibaly has already talked up his countryman and potential teammate, saying Risacher’s “got a lot of talent.” If Coulibaly and Risacher are the Wizards’ future wings, their defense will help lift Washington into playoff contention.

The Deni Avdija Variable
None of that means that they’ll trade Kuzma. However, with Avdija’s growth in the back half of the 2023-24 season, he may have earned his spot as a full-time starter. After averaging 13.8 points per game prior to the All-Star Break, he averaged 17.1 points per game after it. Either mark would’ve been good enough for a career-high. With increased responsibility and continued development, the Wizards may transform him into a legitimate volume scorer.

What the Kings Are Offering
The Kings’ proposed trade package of Harrison Barnes, Kevin Huerter and draft compensation won’t make or break the roster, especially if they draft Risacher. However, there’s no doubt Sacramento would get the best offensive player. To that point, while Kuzma averaged 22.2 points and 4.2 assists per game last season, Barnes posted 12.2 points per game and Huerter finished with less than that (10.2 points per game). Furthermore, due to Barnes’ age (32), he could request a buyout to join a contender.

Essentially, Huerter is the only player guaranteed to have a part in their future affairs.

Kevin Huerter Helps, No Matter What
Whether Jordan Poole is able or ready to lead the team as their point guard is still unknown. At this point, he simply appears to be more comfortable and natural in a sixth man role. Conversely, Huerter’s off-ball shooting is ideal for a team that ranked 25th in 3-point percentage (.348) last season. A sharpshooter, Huerter has converted 38.2 percent of his 3s over the course of his career. Thus, he could start and dramatically improve the team’s play.

However, for argument’s sake, say Huerter comes off the bench behind Coulibaly.

A perimeter unit of Poole, Coulibaly, Risacher, and Avdija has plenty of shooting potential. Their ceiling is that much higher with Huerter coming in to spell Coulibaly, Risacher, or Avdija, who have all been streaky jump shooters throughout their basketball journey. Because of that trio’s positional flexibility, Huerter can slot in as the two-guard while the other two man the forward spots. That being said, though he could start, he’s a great safety net to have on the bench as well.

Ultimately, he helps the Wizards no matter what.


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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1073 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:47 am

nate33 wrote:
SUPERBALLMAN wrote:I’m starting to think we should trade Corey.

I don't see why.

If you can get a really good return, then, sure, anyone can be traded. But I don't really see any team out there that is in position to value Kispert significantly more than we value him, so I doubt there is a mutually beneficial trade available.



Yes I agree I like Kispert, seems like a great dude, good teammate etc. But my thinking is, he's entering the final year of his contract. Kispert is a 1-dimensional player, 39% from 3, but his one dimension is a valuable and sought after commodity. He is going to get paid. And he's a luxury item more valuable and necessary to a contending team more so than to a rebuilding team.

I'm not saying that I WANT to get rid of Corey. He's a great floor spacer, especially if we add a player like Sarr, that would be great to have. But is he a long term piece? Can we find a younger and cheaper replacement to come off the bench who is more of a 3 & D rather than just a 3 & no D?

Maybe draft someone like 6-7 F Jaylen Wells from Washington State projected 2nd round (42% 3pt).


A team like The Bucks could be a good trade partner. They have picks 23 & 33 in the draft.

https://wisportsheroics.com/milwaukee-bucks-news-corey-kispert-trade/

Milwaukee Bucks Address Shooting Woes With 'Sleeper Target' In Intriguing Proposal

By Angelo GuinhawaJune 16, 2024Updated:June 17, 2024

The Milwaukee Bucks need capable shooters to space the floor for two-time MVP Giannis Antetokounmpo and elevate the team’s offense in the process. In this regard, going for Washington Wizards’ Corey Kispert might be the ideal move to make for the franchise.

Kispert, the 15th overall pick in the 2021 NBA Draft, has established himself as a three-point shooting specialist with the Washington Wizards. From the outset, he showcased his prowess from beyond the arc, connecting on 38.3% of his attempts this season.

Milwaukee Bucks, Corey Kispert

The Wizards forwards’ willingness to launch threes, rather than just his percentage, has been crucial in distorting opposing defenses. In fact, he ranked among the top 25 players in the league in three-point attempts per possession.

Beyond his three-point shooting, Kispert has also proven to be an efficient scorer, posting a career-best effective field goal percentage of 60.2%. He has been particularly effective around the rim, converting 78.7% of his attempts, and has also found success in the floater range, shooting 52.5% from 3-10 feet.

While Kispert is a thoroughly modern player, with 80% of his shots coming from the preferred spots on the floor, he does possess certain limitations. His impact on the defensive end and his playmaking abilities are somewhat restricted, and his rebounding is also a concern. Nonetheless, for the right team, the forward’s outstanding shooting prowess can still hold significant value, particularly in the regular season.

Washington Wizards Corey Kispert Named as Potential Trade Target for Milwaukee Bucks
Milwaukee Bucks, Corey Kispert
Apr 9, 2024; Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA; Washington Wizards forward Corey Kispert (24) gets by Minnesota Timberwolves forward Kyle Anderson (1) for the basket in the first quarter at Target Center. Mandatory Credit: Matt Blewett-USA TODAY Sports
For Antetokounmpo to be effective on the court, he must be surrounded by talented shooters. The Bucks’ front office can do just that by acquiring Kispert, as detailed in an article by Tyler Watts for Behind The Buck Pass.

“Kispert’s minutes dipped in year three, despite Washington leaning into rebuilding. His counting stats improved, but the lack of playing time may be a sign that he is not part of the Wizards’ future. The 6’7 forward averaged 13.4 points, 2.8 rebounds, and 2.0 assists in 25.8 minutes per game, while shooting 48.6 percent from the field and 38.3 percent on his 3-point attempts.

Kispert struggles on defense and has produced a negative value over replacement level (VORP) in two of his first three NBA seasons. The Wizards have been a mess in recent years and the 15th overall pick in 2021 may blossom in a winning situation. His impact may come strictly as a floor spacer and offensive weapon, but the Bucks need any help possible.

With limited draft capital and the second tax apron looming, the Milwaukee Bucks must take what they can get. It may even involve buying low on a struggling option in hopes he can turn things around,” Watts wrote.

Getting Kispert and having him integrated into head coach Doc Rivers‘ system may do wonders for his career. If given the chance to produce for a winning team, the former Gonzaga star may prove to be a reliable floor space on the offensive end and a capable defender on the other end.

It remains to be seen whether Kispert may find a new home in Milwaukee, stays in Washington, or lands in a new city. In any case, the Bucks should keep a close eye on the forward if he becomes available.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1074 » by willbcocks » Thu Jun 20, 2024 7:35 am

Kispert on a fair-market contract is unlikely to ever contribute to a Wizards playoff run. And he will never have the defense to be a starter anyway. If we can get a first rounder pick for him, even a late one, I take it.
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Post#1075 » by nate33 » Thu Jun 20, 2024 11:50 am

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SUPERBALLMAN wrote:I’m starting to think we should trade Corey.

I don't see why.

If you can get a really good return, then, sure, anyone can be traded. But I don't really see any team out there that is in position to value Kispert significantly more than we value him, so I doubt there is a mutually beneficial trade available.


wouldn't any of the "all-in" 2nd apron teams love to save money and acquire anyone that is cheap and can play? Wiz would have to take on a Connaughton, Little or Nnaji contract of course and we don't seem to value distant unprotected picks.
And I hope your 25 cap projection does not include 4th years of Johnny or PBJ :upset:

If they're an apron team, they would only be able to afford Kispert's final rookie contract year and wouldn't be able to extend him. How much are they going to value a one-year rental of Kispert?

Also, most "all-in" apron teams have already traded away all their picks through 2030.
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Post#1076 » by nate33 » Thu Jun 20, 2024 11:56 am

willbcocks wrote:Kispert on a fair-market contract is unlikely to ever contribute to a Wizards playoff run. And he will never have the defense to be a starter anyway. If we can get a first rounder pick for him, even a late one, I take it.

I'm guessing his fair market value is the MLE. I envision signing him to a 4-year deal at just over the MLE, but with descending annual salaries. In the first two seasons, he will make just above the MLE, in years when we are not at all worried about our salary situation. In the final two years, he will be a 6th-man role player making sub-MLE money for a team that should hopefully be a playoff contender. A guy like Kispert making 80% of the MLE is a very good contract. I'd value that over a couple of SRP's or one FRP in the late 20's. If we can trade Kispert for a pick in the 15-22 range, I might reconsider.
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Post#1077 » by nate33 » Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:06 pm

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Kuzma to Kings?

https://lastwordonsports.com/basketball/2024/06/18/nba-rumors-kings-wizards-discuss-kyle-kuzma-trade/

June 18, 2024 Quenton S. Albertie

NBA Rumors: West Contender to Discuss Kyle Kuzma Trade

Washington Wizards forward Kyle Kuzma, Sacramento Kings trade target

The Sacramento Kings and Washington Wizards “are expected to renew conversations” about forward Kyle Kuzma this offseason, per Action Network’s Matt Moore. The teams are rumored to have discussed deals surrounding Kuzma since last summer.


Kings to Discuss Kyle Kuzma Trade

For the Kings, the motivation to acquire Kuzma is simple.

A go-to scorer with playmaking skills, he can lighten the load for De’Aaron Fox and Domantas Sabonis. He can also do damage from the perimeter, converting 39.1 percent of his career corner 3s. As he’s not the best off-ball threat, there will be some ‘my turn, your turn’ offense. Nonetheless, because of the way his passing ability can blend with Fox’s growth as a 3-point shooter and Sabonis’s three-level scoring, they’ll be comfortable putting the ball in his hands.

Zaccharie Risacher’s Importance
If the Wizards end up selecting 2024 NBA Draft prospect Zaccharie Risacher, Kuzma will likely become more attainable.

Washington already has three other starting-caliber forwards in their rotation in Deni Avdija, Corey Kispert, and Bilal Coulibaly. However, Risacher has their best parts of their skillset and few of their weaknesses. Furthermore, Kispert will be on the final year of his contract in 2024-25. Even more to the point, though Kispert is the most efficient 3-point threat among their forward rotation, he’s also the group’s worst defender. As a result, he’s likely regarded as expendable, especially if they can replace him with a player who has Risacher’s skillset.

Lastly, the French connection is obvious. In fact, Coulibaly has already talked up his countryman and potential teammate, saying Risacher’s “got a lot of talent.” If Coulibaly and Risacher are the Wizards’ future wings, their defense will help lift Washington into playoff contention.

The Deni Avdija Variable
None of that means that they’ll trade Kuzma. However, with Avdija’s growth in the back half of the 2023-24 season, he may have earned his spot as a full-time starter. After averaging 13.8 points per game prior to the All-Star Break, he averaged 17.1 points per game after it. Either mark would’ve been good enough for a career-high. With increased responsibility and continued development, the Wizards may transform him into a legitimate volume scorer.

What the Kings Are Offering
The Kings’ proposed trade package of Harrison Barnes, Kevin Huerter and draft compensation won’t make or break the roster, especially if they draft Risacher. However, there’s no doubt Sacramento would get the best offensive player. To that point, while Kuzma averaged 22.2 points and 4.2 assists per game last season, Barnes posted 12.2 points per game and Huerter finished with less than that (10.2 points per game). Furthermore, due to Barnes’ age (32), he could request a buyout to join a contender.

Essentially, Huerter is the only player guaranteed to have a part in their future affairs.

Kevin Huerter Helps, No Matter What
Whether Jordan Poole is able or ready to lead the team as their point guard is still unknown. At this point, he simply appears to be more comfortable and natural in a sixth man role. Conversely, Huerter’s off-ball shooting is ideal for a team that ranked 25th in 3-point percentage (.348) last season. A sharpshooter, Huerter has converted 38.2 percent of his 3s over the course of his career. Thus, he could start and dramatically improve the team’s play.

However, for argument’s sake, say Huerter comes off the bench behind Coulibaly.

A perimeter unit of Poole, Coulibaly, Risacher, and Avdija has plenty of shooting potential. Their ceiling is that much higher with Huerter coming in to spell Coulibaly, Risacher, or Avdija, who have all been streaky jump shooters throughout their basketball journey. Because of that trio’s positional flexibility, Huerter can slot in as the two-guard while the other two man the forward spots. That being said, though he could start, he’s a great safety net to have on the bench as well.

Ultimately, he helps the Wizards no matter what.

Funny, I think the logic of trading Kuzma applies totally independent of whether we draft Risacher or not.

I think the big factor is Coulibaly. People still think of him as a SG/SF wing type of player - a Jaden McDaniels rather than a PF. I don't think people realize how big and tall Coulibaly is and how much he will fill out. The guy is going to built more like Siakam or Anunoby in a couple of years and he'll be a big forward. Deni is also big and strong, so the two of them will take all of the PF minutes plus half the SF minutes. Kuzma is also more of a 4 than a 3, making him redundant. (And we also have Vukcevic, who might play some PF.) Moving Kuzma will make sense regardless of who we draft this year. If he is moved for pick capital that lands us either a guard or a small forward, the roster will balance out just fine.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1078 » by nate33 » Thu Jun 20, 2024 1:22 pm

Orlando is rumored to be making a play for Paul George. They will need max money to sign him, which means they will need to unload one small contract, either Mo Wagner, Wendall Carter Jr., or Cole Anthony. We could absorb any of those guys with a TPE. I'd be interested in either big man if they threw in the 2025 DEN FRP they own.
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Post#1079 » by payitforward » Thu Jun 20, 2024 1:44 pm

9 and 20 wrote:I'd trade 2/26 for 4/8, but not 2 for 7/14. 7/14 seems way too cheap to trade into the top of the draft.

2 & 26 is not likely to get you 4 & 8 I don't think.
Think of it this way: that is giving up 2 spots to move your other pick from 26 to 8.

& I don't think 2 on its own gets you 7 & 14 either.

OTOH, 2 & 26 would be too much to give for 7 & 14, it seems to me.

The best move, IMO, continues to be the simplest: all o3 of our picks to Portland for all 4 of their picks.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

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