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Post#1061 » by sol537 » Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:32 pm

1) Extend OG starting at $32.5m per
2) Extend iHart starting at $16m per; final year player option
3) Extend Thibs 3 years @ $11m per (Hurley takes over after?)
4) Don't guarantee Bogs; Let Precious, Burks walk
5) Sign Naji Marshall 4 years via MLE starting at $11m but descending each year
6) Sign Rokas 4 years via BAE at $3.3m per
7) Draft Ware (#24), Dunn (#25), Nikola Djurisic (#38)

iHart / Mitch / Ware (#24)
Randle / Hart / Dunn (#25)
OG / Marshall
DDV / McBride
Brunson / Rokas

Under the first apron. Warchest still intact. 55+ win team. LFGK.
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Post#1062 » by BowlRips » Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:33 pm

aggo wrote:kat at 4yr 224m
or
randle at 4yr 181m


basically if you are posed with that question it is actually a good litmus test to whether or not you know ball.


Which is why if you could make that swap tomorrow you would.
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Post#1063 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:48 pm

Let me bring up Jerami Grant again…
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Post#1064 » by WaltFrazier » Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:07 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:Let me bring up Jerami Grant again…

Grant or Kuzma would make a great three man rotation for the SF - PF spots with Randle and OG. But vets like that are expensive and tough to bring off the bench. Need to find a young athletic 3/4 man on the rise, who could spell off Randle and OG .

Or else hope Precious develops a reliable three point shot over the summer but that may be a stretch.
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Post#1065 » by Appleshampoo » Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:33 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:OG sign with Philly and iShart sign with OKC yet?


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Post#1066 » by Appleshampoo » Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:43 pm

BowlRips wrote:
aggo wrote:kat at 4yr 224m
or
randle at 4yr 181m


basically if you are posed with that question it is actually a good litmus test to whether or not you know ball.


Which is why if you could make that swap tomorrow you would.


224M-181M= 43M. 181/4= 45.25M | 224/4= 56M ... genuinely curious, what is the point you're making? I don't keep tabs on who hates who.
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Post#1067 » by douggood » Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:01 pm

sol537 wrote:1) Extend OG starting at $32.5m per
2) Extend iHart starting at $16m per; final year player option
3) Extend Thibs 3 years @ $11m per (Hurley takes over after?)
4) Don't guarantee Bogs; Let Precious, Burks walk
5) Sign Naji Marshall 4 years via MLE starting at $11m but descending each year
6) Sign Rokas 4 years via BAE at $3.3m per
7) Draft Ware (#24), Dunn (#25), Nikola Djurisic (#38)

iHart / Mitch / Ware (#24)
Randle / Hart / Dunn (#25)
OG / Marshall
DDV / McBride
Brunson / Rokas

Under the first apron. Warchest still intact. 55+ win team. LFGK.

it barely barely barely works, also you would be hardcapped at the 1st apron. (plus BAE is only for 2 year max)

$103(6 signed players) + $49 (og+ihart) + 2 (bogs buyout), + 11 naji + 3.3 rokas, 5.5 (picks for the 1st rounders)

thats 174 for 12 players, hard cap would be at $178
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Post#1068 » by sol537 » Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:06 pm

douggood wrote:
sol537 wrote:1) Extend OG starting at $32.5m per
2) Extend iHart starting at $16m per; final year player option
3) Extend Thibs 3 years @ $11m per (Hurley takes over after?)
4) Don't guarantee Bogs; Let Precious, Burks walk
5) Sign Naji Marshall 4 years via MLE starting at $11m but descending each year
6) Sign Rokas 4 years via BAE at $3.3m per
7) Draft Ware (#24), Dunn (#25), Nikola Djurisic (#38)

iHart / Mitch / Ware (#24)
Randle / Hart / Dunn (#25)
OG / Marshall
DDV / McBride
Brunson / Rokas

Under the first apron. Warchest still intact. 55+ win team. LFGK.

it barely barely barely works, also you would be hardcapped at the 1st apron. (plus BAE is only for 2 year max)

$103(6 signed players) + $49 (og+ihart) + 2 (bogs buyout), + 11 naji + 3.3 rokas, 5.5 (picks for the 1st rounders)

thats 174 for 12 players, hard cap would be at $178


Our cap wizards could make it work…
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Post#1069 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:05 pm

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Post#1070 » by WargamesX » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:10 pm

sol537 wrote:
douggood wrote:
sol537 wrote:1) Extend OG starting at $32.5m per
2) Extend iHart starting at $16m per; final year player option
3) Extend Thibs 3 years @ $11m per (Hurley takes over after?)
4) Don't guarantee Bogs; Let Precious, Burks walk
5) Sign Naji Marshall 4 years via MLE starting at $11m but descending each year
6) Sign Rokas 4 years via BAE at $3.3m per
7) Draft Ware (#24), Dunn (#25), Nikola Djurisic (#38)

iHart / Mitch / Ware (#24)
Randle / Hart / Dunn (#25)
OG / Marshall
DDV / McBride
Brunson / Rokas

Under the first apron. Warchest still intact. 55+ win team. LFGK.

it barely barely barely works, also you would be hardcapped at the 1st apron. (plus BAE is only for 2 year max)

$103(6 signed players) + $49 (og+ihart) + 2 (bogs buyout), + 11 naji + 3.3 rokas, 5.5 (picks for the 1st rounders)

thats 174 for 12 players, hard cap would be at $178


Our cap wizards could make it work…


Does using the MLE cap lock them into the 1st apron or the BAE?
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Post#1071 » by Juco24 » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:10 pm

Windy was interesting today... mentioned possibility of Pail George to the Knicks. No rumor or anything, just mentioned the possibility
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Post#1072 » by WargamesX » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:12 pm

Juco24 wrote:Windy was interesting today... mentioned possibility of Pail George to the Knicks. No rumor or anything, just mentioned the possibility


He doesn’t have the most sources. He’s not fully dependent on Klutch like Shams but he doesn’t really have sources on the Knicks either.
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Post#1073 » by dakomish23 » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:15 pm

Top 50 FA per Hoopshype

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2024/06/top-50-nba-free-agents-of-2024.html

Knicks players

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5. OG Anunoby, F, Knicks (player option)
If there were a version of Anunoby who was a lock to play 75 games every year, he’d probably be a legitimate maximum-salary candidate. Teams will be reluctant to make that sort of commitment to this version. As dynamic a three-and-D player as Anunoby is, injuries have cost him 29, 34, 15, and 32 games in the past four seasons. Still, it’s hard to overstate the impact he had on the Knicks following a midseason trade from Toronto. New York’s net rating during his 802 regular season minutes was an eye-popping +21.7. Both the Knicks’ offensive rating (122.6) and defensive rating (100.9) during those minutes would’ve ranked first in the NBA.


13. Isaiah Hartenstein, C, Knicks
After an up-and-down first season in New York, Hartenstein had a career year in 2023/24, stepping in as the Knicks’ starting center following Mitchell Robinson‘s ankle injury and playing strong defense while setting new career highs in several categories, including rebounds (8.3), assists (2.5), and steals (1.2) per game. Like Monk, Hartenstein only has Early Bird rights, so the Knicks’ offer can’t exceed approximately $72.5MM over four years. It seemed unlikely just a few months ago that the big man would get anything close to that, but the center market will be relatively sparse, especially if Claxton re-signs with the Nets, and one report suggested a deal in the $80-100MM range isn’t out of the realm of possibility for Hartenstein.


37. Precious Achiuwa, F/C, Knicks (RFA)
Consistency has been an issue for Achiuwa, but he was given a chance to play meaningful minutes on an injury-plagued roster in New York and held his own against bigger frontcourt players, averaging 7.6 points, 7.2 rebounds, and 1.1 blocks in 24.2 minutes per game with the Knicks. Achiuwa is an intriguing small-ball center, since he’s athletic enough to switch onto quicker players. We’ll see how his market develops — he won’t be the Knicks’ highest priority in free agency, so he could end up getting squeezed if his qualifying offer remains in place and no club wants to take its chances with an offer sheet.


Former Knicks players

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7. Immanuel Quickley, G, Raptors (RFA)
It may be surprising to see Quickley rank this high, but he’s going to get paid this offseason. Recent rookie scale extension recipients like Tyler Herro (four years, $120MM), Jordan Poole (four years, $123MM), and Devin Vassell (five years, $135MM) are a few points of comparison for Quickley, who was the centerpiece of Toronto’s return in the Anunoby trade and averaged 18.6 points, 6.8 assists, and 4.8 rebounds per game with a .395 3PT% in his first 38 games as a Raptor. I fully expect Quickley’s new deal to be in the nine figures.


26. Obi Toppin, F, Pacers (RFA)
A starter until Christmas, Toppin was moved to the second unit in an effort to improve the Pacers’ defense, then continued to come off the bench after the team traded for Siakam. Still, it was a career year for the former lottery pick, who cracked double-digit scoring (10.3 PPG) for the first time while bumping his shooting efficiency to new heights (.573 FG%, .403 3PT%). Toppin, who remained a reliable rotation piece throughout three playoff series, may not project as a starter long-term, but he looks like at least a high-level reserve for the foreseeable future.
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Post#1074 » by Fury » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:15 pm

Juco24 wrote:Windy was interesting today... mentioned possibility of Pail George to the Knicks. No rumor or anything, just mentioned the possibility


With or without OG?
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Post#1075 » by navyblue » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:15 pm

WargamesX wrote:
sol537 wrote:
douggood wrote:it barely barely barely works, also you would be hardcapped at the 1st apron. (plus BAE is only for 2 year max)

$103(6 signed players) + $49 (og+ihart) + 2 (bogs buyout), + 11 naji + 3.3 rokas, 5.5 (picks for the 1st rounders)

thats 174 for 12 players, hard cap would be at $178


Our cap wizards could make it work…


Does using the MLE cap lock them into the 1st apron or the BAE?

Both trigger hard cap.
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Post#1076 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:16 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:Let me bring up Jerami Grant again…

Grant or Kuzma would make a great three man rotation for the SF - PF spots with Randle and OG. But vets like that are expensive and tough to bring off the bench. Need to find a young athletic 3/4 man on the rise, who could spell off Randle and OG .

Or else hope Precious develops a reliable three point shot over the summer but that may be a stretch.

The oh so bad contract looks quite good on him actually though…
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Post#1077 » by Fury » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:16 pm

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Post#1078 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:21 pm

Juco24 wrote:Windy was interesting today... mentioned possibility of Pail George to the Knicks. No rumor or anything, just mentioned the possibility

I already mentioned the possibility of KAT, Bridges, Grant, Markkanen, Sexton, Doncic, Sabonis, DeRozan to the Knicks lol
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Post#1079 » by Riot Randolph » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:38 pm

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Post#1080 » by WargamesX » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:45 pm

navyblue wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
sol537 wrote:
Our cap wizards could make it work…


Does using the MLE cap lock them into the 1st apron or the BAE?

Both trigger hard cap.


Ok in that case I could see an argument for going into the second apron by keeping Bojan and not using the MLE because as restrictive as it is, at least you wouldn’t be “hard capped”.

I could also see a scenario where they say “we’re close and very likely going to be a second apron team next year. Let’s avoid it to give ourselves room to mitigate the long term damage that being over the second apron causes.”

I also could see them moving up a few spots on the draft to consolidate rookie money by trading the two first rounders for just one. Raptors at 19 & 31 look real good because they can always sign the second rounder for 1.5 mil for a few years. Wizards at 20 looks good too since they also have a youth movement in need of more youth.

I could also see a scenario where the aren’t looking for Rokas to come over (again) and use the MLE and then maybe put a QO on precious for about 6 mil a year, and then run it back with him as Randle’s backup.
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