2024 NBA Draft Prospects

Moderators: Inigo Montoya, FJS

User avatar
babyjax13
RealGM
Posts: 35,608
And1: 18,094
Joined: Jul 02, 2006
Location: Fresno, eating Birria
     

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#281 » by babyjax13 » Sat Jun 15, 2024 12:06 am

SoCalJazzFan wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:
SoCalJazzFan wrote:Any reason Rob Dillingham doesn't become Darius Garland?

They are nearly the same size coming out of college. Very similar college stats too.

Dillingham is smaller and has worse court vision.
Rob: 6-1 164lbs with a narrow frame and 6-3 wingspan
Garland: 6-1 192lbs with a much more stout frame

Part of the reason Garland struggled this year was losing 15lbs from having his jaw wired shut. I don't think Rob is a similar player - perhaps if EVERYTHING breaks right he is something between Aaron Brooks and Kemba Walker.

Garland coming out of college weighed less than 175 lbs, it took him several years in the NBA to get his current body.
I admit that Garland is a better passer. However, Dillingham might be the better scorer.
Here are their college stats (scroll down):
https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Darius-Garland/Comparison/81685/Rob-Dillingham/162009

At the end of the day, you might be right, but if you watch pre-draft videos of each, the similarities are crazy.

I'm not sure if anyone in this class becomes an All Star, but if I had to create a short list of those who might, Dillingham is on it.

15lbs is a huge difference at that size and Rob has a very narrow frame. I do think Rob has an outside chance of being one of the best prospects in the draft.
Image

JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.

JColl
User avatar
Inigo Montoya
Forum Mod - Jazz
Forum Mod - Jazz
Posts: 17,174
And1: 8,445
Joined: May 31, 2012

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#282 » by Inigo Montoya » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:16 pm

Read on Twitter
Draft Nate Wolters - FAILED
Keep Nate Wolters - FAILED
Image
KqWIN wrote:Why are we talking about Middleton, Harris, and Porter?

The real decision the Jazz FO is making is between Continuity, Cap Flexibility, and Cash Considerations.
Catchall
RealGM
Posts: 20,575
And1: 11,159
Joined: Jul 06, 2008
     

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#283 » by Catchall » Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:02 am

Quick Mock Draft Per Rumors...
1 ATL - Risacher
2 WAS - Sarr
3 HOU - Sheppard
4 SAS - Castle
5 DET - Williams
6 CHA - Buzelis
7 POR - Clingan
8 SAS - Salaun
9 MEM - Carter

If the Jazz stay at 10, they are likely looking at Knecht, Holland, Topic or Edey, unless they just spontaneously fall in love with McCain. Both Holland and McCain are working out with the Jazz this week. Edey and Knecht worked out with the Jazz last week.

Jazz's options are to trade up with Houston to chase Sheppard or Castle, trade up with Detroit to chase Williams, or sit at 10 and wait for Holland or Topic to slide to them. I'm a bit skeptical that the Jazz would take Edey at #10.
AingesBurner
RealGM
Posts: 15,254
And1: 3,910
Joined: Jan 18, 2013
   

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#284 » by AingesBurner » Wed Jun 19, 2024 8:33 pm

Catchall wrote:Quick Mock Draft Per Rumors...
1 ATL - Risacher
2 WAS - Sarr
3 HOU - Sheppard
4 SAS - Castle
5 DET - Williams
6 CHA - Buzelis
7 POR - Clingan
8 SAS - Salaun
9 MEM - Carter

If the Jazz stay at 10, they are likely looking at Knecht, Holland, Topic or Edey, unless they just spontaneously fall in love with McCain. Both Holland and McCain are working out with the Jazz this week. Edey and Knecht worked out with the Jazz last week.

Jazz's options are to trade up with Houston to chase Sheppard or Castle, trade up with Detroit to chase Williams, or sit at 10 and wait for Holland or Topic to slide to them. I'm a bit skeptical that the Jazz would take Edey at #10.


Edey at 10 is like what his face at 28 or 29 when what’s his face was on the board.
User avatar
Jampod
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,338
And1: 10
Joined: May 29, 2009

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#285 » by Jampod » Wed Jun 19, 2024 9:52 pm

Read on Twitter


Just gonna leave this here.
Image
AingesBurner
RealGM
Posts: 15,254
And1: 3,910
Joined: Jan 18, 2013
   

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#286 » by AingesBurner » Wed Jun 19, 2024 11:21 pm

Jampod wrote:
Read on Twitter


Just gonna leave this here.


Kid doesn’t have any hair on his peaches, fake sauces.
SoCalJazzFan
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,479
And1: 1,078
Joined: Jul 29, 2009

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#287 » by SoCalJazzFan » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:14 am

^^ Edey being promised top 10, if true, is just wow!

Do the Blazers take him and push another desirable player to 10 for the Jazz to select?

Is it the Jazz who view Edey as a Kessler on roids? Edey can’t defend to the 3 pt line or shoot outside shots, so that would shoot down the theory that Hardy wants to play 5 out.
SoCalJazzFan
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,479
And1: 1,078
Joined: Jul 29, 2009

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#288 » by SoCalJazzFan » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:20 am

Question:
Do you think that combining 29 and 32 with either 10 or each other enable the Jazz to get a higher pick (above 10 or in the 20s)?

If so, which team would be interested in these picks and why?

If the Jazz don’t use all three picks, under what scenario do they trade one away?
User avatar
Inigo Montoya
Forum Mod - Jazz
Forum Mod - Jazz
Posts: 17,174
And1: 8,445
Joined: May 31, 2012

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#289 » by Inigo Montoya » Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:00 pm

I don't think Edey has a promise from the Jazz. He did work out with other teams and it's quite possible that if he does have a promise in the top-10 then it's either from the Blazers or from a team that has a trade in place to move up to the top 10.
Draft Nate Wolters - FAILED
Keep Nate Wolters - FAILED
Image
KqWIN wrote:Why are we talking about Middleton, Harris, and Porter?

The real decision the Jazz FO is making is between Continuity, Cap Flexibility, and Cash Considerations.
User avatar
Inigo Montoya
Forum Mod - Jazz
Forum Mod - Jazz
Posts: 17,174
And1: 8,445
Joined: May 31, 2012

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#290 » by Inigo Montoya » Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:07 pm

SoCalJazzFan wrote:Question:
Do you think that combining 29 and 32 with either 10 or each other enable the Jazz to get a higher pick (above 10 or in the 20s)?

If so, which team would be interested in these picks and why?

If the Jazz don’t use all three picks, under what scenario do they trade one away?

I doubt that 10+29+32 helps the Jazz to move up. They'll probably have to package #10 with either a player or a future pick.

I suppose some teams may be interested in each of the picks, probably ones that have a big payroll and a lack of picks. I could see a team like Minnesota who has Tim Conley who is good at finding value in later picks, either trying to get another pick or do 27 for 29+32.

Maybe the Suns would do 22 for 29+32 due to their lack of depth and huge payroll. Something along those lines, or the Jazz get future seconds for either picks from someone.
Draft Nate Wolters - FAILED
Keep Nate Wolters - FAILED
Image
KqWIN wrote:Why are we talking about Middleton, Harris, and Porter?

The real decision the Jazz FO is making is between Continuity, Cap Flexibility, and Cash Considerations.
Catchall
RealGM
Posts: 20,575
And1: 11,159
Joined: Jul 06, 2008
     

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#291 » by Catchall » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:56 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:I don't think Edey has a promise from the Jazz. He did work out with other teams and it's quite possible that if he does have a promise in the top-10 then it's either from the Blazers or from a team that has a trade in place to move up to the top 10.


Portland and Memphis are reportedly trying to trade up to #3 with Houston. They wouldn't be doing that if they promised their pick to someone.
User avatar
Jampod
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,338
And1: 10
Joined: May 29, 2009

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#292 » by Jampod » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:24 pm

I don’t think the Jazz would make a promise to any player much less Zach Edey. I think it was either Tony Jones or Sarah Todd that tweeted out they were still doing private workouts with players a couple days ago. If Zach Edey jumps into the lottery, however, then a lot of different scenarios could be available to us.
Image
Catchall
RealGM
Posts: 20,575
And1: 11,159
Joined: Jul 06, 2008
     

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#293 » by Catchall » Thu Jun 20, 2024 8:05 pm

Jampod wrote:I don’t think the Jazz would make a promise to any player much less Zach Edey. I think it was either Tony Jones or Sarah Todd that tweeted out they were still doing private workouts with players a couple days ago. If Zach Edey jumps into the lottery, however, then a lot of different scenarios could be available to us.


There's another possibility, which is that the Jazz have an agreement to trade up with someone, and that team is trading back to #10 to draft Edey.
Hoops Addict
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,748
And1: 184
Joined: Apr 18, 2011

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#294 » by Hoops Addict » Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:32 pm

I am warming up to EDEY at 10. He could be a game changer. He’s coordinated and strong.
User avatar
MalonesElbows
Starter
Posts: 2,437
And1: 1,494
Joined: Sep 14, 2009
     

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#295 » by MalonesElbows » Thu Jun 20, 2024 11:37 pm

Hoops Addict wrote:I am warming up to EDEY at 10. He could be a game changer. He’s coordinated and strong.


In most drafts I wouldn't be for it, but don't really care this year given the field. His 7'11" wingspan dwarfs Gobert's and within an inch of Wemby. He a proven monster in college, averaging a 40 PER his last 3 years straight. He is slow but is also 285lbs to at least make him tough to post up.
SoCalJazzFan
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,479
And1: 1,078
Joined: Jul 29, 2009

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#296 » by SoCalJazzFan » Fri Jun 21, 2024 12:21 am

Catchall wrote:Quick Mock Draft Per Rumors...
1 ATL - Risacher
2 WAS - Sarr
3 HOU - Sheppard
4 SAS - Castle
5 DET - Williams
6 CHA - Buzelis
7 POR - Clingan
8 SAS - Salaun
9 MEM - Carter

If the Jazz stay at 10, they are likely looking at Knecht, Holland, Topic or Edey, unless they just spontaneously fall in love with McCain. Both Holland and McCain are working out with the Jazz this week. Edey and Knecht worked out with the Jazz last week.

Jazz's options are to trade up with Houston to chase Sheppard or Castle, trade up with Detroit to chase Williams, or sit at 10 and wait for Holland or Topic to slide to them. I'm a bit skeptical that the Jazz would take Edey at #10.

I could see it play out like this. Hopefully, the Jazz wouldn't draft Knecht.
User avatar
Inigo Montoya
Forum Mod - Jazz
Forum Mod - Jazz
Posts: 17,174
And1: 8,445
Joined: May 31, 2012

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#297 » by Inigo Montoya » Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:55 am

Catchall wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:I don't think Edey has a promise from the Jazz. He did work out with other teams and it's quite possible that if he does have a promise in the top-10 then it's either from the Blazers or from a team that has a trade in place to move up to the top 10.


Portland and Memphis are reportedly trying to trade up to #3 with Houston. They wouldn't be doing that if they promised their pick to someone.

Ededy worked out for the Raptors, Lakers, Heat, Bucks, Pelicans, and the Kings as well, so maybe one of them has a trade in place on draft day to move up to the top 10. There are also rumblings he's considered for the #1 pick or could go #2. In any case I think it's good for the Jazz if Clingan goes in the top 9, as it frees up another prospect the Jazz could pick.
Draft Nate Wolters - FAILED
Keep Nate Wolters - FAILED
Image
KqWIN wrote:Why are we talking about Middleton, Harris, and Porter?

The real decision the Jazz FO is making is between Continuity, Cap Flexibility, and Cash Considerations.
User avatar
Inigo Montoya
Forum Mod - Jazz
Forum Mod - Jazz
Posts: 17,174
And1: 8,445
Joined: May 31, 2012

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#298 » by Inigo Montoya » Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:58 am

I'm against drafting Edey or Knecht with the #10 pick. The Jazz need high upside players and while I think both can be decent players in the league, they don't give the Jazz upside. That's especially the case with Knecht--it would be like the Jazz tanked the season to draft an even older Agbaji.
Draft Nate Wolters - FAILED
Keep Nate Wolters - FAILED
Image
KqWIN wrote:Why are we talking about Middleton, Harris, and Porter?

The real decision the Jazz FO is making is between Continuity, Cap Flexibility, and Cash Considerations.
WinterSoldier
Senior
Posts: 572
And1: 260
Joined: Mar 28, 2015
 

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#299 » by WinterSoldier » Fri Jun 21, 2024 12:54 pm

Read on Twitter


This would make the draft a lot more interesting. If this happens it would push more options down to 10.
User avatar
Inigo Montoya
Forum Mod - Jazz
Forum Mod - Jazz
Posts: 17,174
And1: 8,445
Joined: May 31, 2012

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#300 » by Inigo Montoya » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:47 pm

WinterSoldier wrote:
Read on Twitter


This would make the draft a lot more interesting. If this happens it would push more options down to 10.

It would be very funny if after Castle's posturing about no wanting to go to a team with an established PG or his refusal working out for such teams he would end up in Atlanta where they have two of those already.
Draft Nate Wolters - FAILED
Keep Nate Wolters - FAILED
Image
KqWIN wrote:Why are we talking about Middleton, Harris, and Porter?

The real decision the Jazz FO is making is between Continuity, Cap Flexibility, and Cash Considerations.

Return to Utah Jazz