Free Agency

Post #661 » by **theBigLip** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:54 pm

SuperBad wrote:If Bridges wanted to come in on a hometown deal for at least 2 seasons before we pay him big to see where he’s really at, then I might good for getting Bridges, but that’s very doubtful.

I think Pistons could put clauses in the contract to remove any risk. Bridges has to be expecting that.

Post #662 » by **Snakebites** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:54 pm

I've been pretty consistent in saying I don't want Miles Bridges on this team.

zeebneeb · Post #663 » by **zeebneeb** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:24 pm

Claxton on this squad would be perfect. Hopefully, target #1.

bstein14 · Post #664 » by **bstein14** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:33 pm

zeebneeb wrote:Claxton on this squad would be perfect. Hopefully, target #1.

Historically our team has done a ton of favors for the Nets and the fact that Arn Tellum's son works for them makes me think that we 100% are not going after their FA.

Post #665 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:41 pm

theBigLip wrote:
SuperBad wrote:If Bridges wanted to come in on a hometown deal for at least 2 seasons before we pay him big to see where he’s really at, then I might good for getting Bridges, but that’s very doubtful.

I think Pistons could put clauses in the contract to remove any risk. Bridges has to be expecting that.

I'm expecting his agents to play hardball. If the contract could be risk hedged, Charlotte would happily do it and keep him.

I actually really like the idea of a big unguaranteed contract.

7r5ur · Post #666 » by **7r5ur** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 7:47 pm

bstein14 wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:Claxton on this squad would be perfect. Hopefully, target #1.

Historically our team has done a ton of favors for the Nets and the fact that Arn Tellum's son works for them makes me think that we 100% are not going after their FA.

I don't want to commit any big long-term money to centers that can't spread the floor anyways, but I don't see a world where Brooklyn is going to let a team like Detroit offer more money. Brooklyn doesn't control their own picks. They can't just punt an asset away and get worse overnight.

Claxton is very unlikely to see this situation as better than playing in NYC to the point where he'll choose the Pistons if money isn't a factor.

I also don't see Claxton as this one-man defensive game changer that I think people want him to be. He's an elite switcher for a 5 but that' because he has the bulk of a slim wing and can't guard 5's. He has plenty of flaws. I tend to think finding the right center to commit to will take patience. Would rather spend the money elsewhere and upgrade the center spot by moving Duren to the bench and starting Stewart at C for now.

Keep looking in the draft for a C that can protect the rim, stretch the floor, and be a lob threat. That's the missing link here that will unlock everything.

zeebneeb · Post #667 » by **zeebneeb** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:18 pm

Claxton is an elite rim protector. Hope the Pistons go above and beyond to nab him.

25 a year should do it.

Post #668 » by **theBigLip** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:31 pm

zeebneeb wrote:Claxton is an elite rim protector. Hope the Pistons go above and beyond to nab him.

25 a year should do it.

That leaves us w $35M. Do we need shooters more than a rim protector? I’m not against Claxton, just trying to figure out how to spread the free agency dollars around.

zeebneeb · Post #669 » by **zeebneeb** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:43 pm

theBigLip wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:Claxton is an elite rim protector. Hope the Pistons go above and beyond to nab him.

25 a year should do it.

That leaves us w $35M. Do we need shooters more than a rim protector? I’m not against Claxton, just trying to figure out how to spread the free agency dollars around.

I was just discussing this with my brother. Having that shot-blocking presence, and lob threat in one, is a must have. If your going to dedicate to Claxton, who fits alongside him?

Let's say Stewart starts back at the 5, and Claxton at the 4. You then have it all, to a certain degree. With that said, can you start Ausar alongside that frontcourt? I would love to somehow wrestle Markkanen out of Utah;

Cade

Ausar
Markkanen
Claxton

Thats not realistic, so what your going to need is a pure scorer at the 2, next to Cade. Maybe with the right coaching Ivey could be that guy, but is his shooting enough? Maybe a player like Lavine.

Cade
Lavine
Ausar
Claxton
Stewart

The team is so poorly built, its hard to mix and match.

joedumars1 · Post #670 » by **joedumars1** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:43 pm

This fa will be a little telling to me, but idk if anyone comes here. Season needs to start like tomorrow lol

7r5ur · Post #671 » by **7r5ur** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:56 pm

zeebneeb wrote:Claxton is an elite rim protector. Hope the Pistons go above and beyond to nab him.

25 a year should do it.

Defensive Field Goal % within 6 feet of the rim:

Duren: 63.1%
Claxton: 55.6%
Stewart: 52.3%
Gobert: 49.4%

There are levels to this. Pure shot blocking stats don't tell the whole story. Like I said, his elite skill is switching onto smaller players, which is nice to have, but he still gives up quite a lot inside.

TC-Flint · Post #672 » by **TC-Flint** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 10:12 pm

joedumars1 wrote:This fa will be a little telling to me, but idk if anyone comes here. Season needs to start like tomorrow lol

I would rather Duren start and Stewart be traded. In your scenario, I would then trade Duren.

zeebneeb · Post #673 » by **zeebneeb** » Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:14 am

Monk off the table already. 4/78 return to Sacramento. Welp, it begins.

Kalamazoo317 · Post #674 » by **Kalamazoo317** » Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:30 am

19.5 per is less than he would've cost us. No worries, though. Not enough D.

Pharaoh · Post #675 » by **Pharaoh** » Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:31 am

Thankful Monk is off the board.

He's awesome as a 6th Man but we'd be expecting him to be a starter here which takes him out of his perfect role.

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Post #676 » by **Snakebites** » Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:37 am

zeebneeb wrote:Monk off the table already. 4/78 return to Sacramento. Welp, it begins.

Yeah…

That cap space was never what it was cracked up to be. Strap in.

He took less than I figured it would cost too.

Post #677 » by **Snakebites** » Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:47 am

Pharaoh wrote:Thankful Monk is off the board.

He's awesome as a 6th Man but we'd be expecting him to be a starter here which takes him out of his perfect role.

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I generally think it’s bad for a team with cap space when someone resigns with their team.

TPA · Post #678 » by **TPA** » Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:52 am

Snakebites wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:Thankful Monk is off the board.

He's awesome as a 6th Man but we'd be expecting him to be a starter here which takes him out of his perfect role.

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I generally think it’s bad for a team with cap space when someone resigns with their team.

LaSheed · Post #679 » by **LaSheed** » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:14 am

Wow Monk off the board too. (I'm glad) Man o man Free Agency isn't what it once was that's for sure. Makes hitting on your draft picks that much more critical.

I just want to grab Caleb Martin & Naji Marshall and call it a day. Absorb bad deals but actually get an asset or over pay 1 year deals in FA.

Pharaoh · Post #680 » by **Pharaoh** » Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:07 am

LaSheed wrote:Wow Monk off the board too. (I'm glad) Man o man Free Agency isn't what it once was that's for sure. Makes hitting on your draft picks that much more critical.

I just want to grab Caleb Martin & Naji Marshall and call it a day. Absorb bad deals but actually get an asset or over pay 1 year deals in FA.

I can't recall a player leaving the Heat and maintaining their form but between Martin, Marshall, Monk, Melton, Jonas V, Bridges, Jones and Tobias we might actually be better served looking at teams at or above the tax apron and getting value players that way.

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