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Post#1221 » by Wildcat » Fri Jun 21, 2024 12:34 pm

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Both are outrageous ...because neither fit our team identity. One dude comes up empty when you need him the most, and the other prefers s a cushy environment -where he can ease into retirement - over winning.

Who do you suggest then?


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Post#1222 » by Guano » Fri Jun 21, 2024 12:39 pm

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Brunson is a legit superstar in his prime. He would no doubt not jump above him on the pecking order. Maybe you can make the case more on Randle. But if Randle is a #3 option you might as well not even have randle on the roster. He's not a catch and shoot floor spacing big.

PG is good. No one is arguing that. Someone always has to take a back seat when you have 3 options. That is why I said he would have to be ready for that .

This is Brunson team and whoever we get needs to compliment him.




You missing my point. As I said earlier it’s not about him jumping the pecking order. It’s about is he ready to accept the pecking order.my answer is no. And because of that he should stay away.

PG was still moving like he was #1 with Harden and Kwahi on the team I’m just saying.


Yeah that why I said the Knicks would need to do there due diligence as well. If PG isn't going to sacrifice and be willing to take on a different role. More C&S and more defensive role like his earlier INDY days. Then we should pass as well.

We are in an important crossroads where we have a star and an identity and you don't want to bring in someone that isn't going to fully buy in.


he was just on his pod sayin he "doesn't want to do the dirty work". that with a whole career of being a playoff loser is enough to keep him away from the knicks.
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Post#1223 » by mpharris36 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 12:43 pm

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You missing my point. As I said earlier it’s not about him jumping the pecking order. It’s about is he ready to accept the pecking order.my answer is no. And because of that he should stay away.

PG was still moving like he was #1 with Harden and Kwahi on the team I’m just saying.


Yeah that why I said the Knicks would need to do there due diligence as well. If PG isn't going to sacrifice and be willing to take on a different role. More C&S and more defensive role like his earlier INDY days. Then we should pass as well.

We are in an important crossroads where we have a star and an identity and you don't want to bring in someone that isn't going to fully buy in.


he was just on his pod sayin he "doesn't want to do the dirty work". that with a whole career of being a playoff loser is enough to keep him away from the knicks.



yeah pass...we need to be picky especially bringing in a big name not to upset the chemistry...if a guy doesn't want to do the little things to win when we just saw BOS big 2 defending and rebounding and doing everything...then that player isn't right for us.
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Post#1224 » by Guano » Fri Jun 21, 2024 12:46 pm

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Not possible, people have not had a chance to wrap their head around the new rules of the cba.

When you aquire more than 100% of outgoing trade you are hardcapped.

Or if you acquire a player in s&t you get hard capped.
This trade would put them way over hard cap.

Decline bogs, and then have randle + fillers to make a legal trade.

we're gonna get paul george and you'll like it

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Post#1225 » by Guano » Fri Jun 21, 2024 12:49 pm

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Yeah that why I said the Knicks would need to do there due diligence as well. If PG isn't going to sacrifice and be willing to take on a different role. More C&S and more defensive role like his earlier INDY days. Then we should pass as well.

We are in an important crossroads where we have a star and an identity and you don't want to bring in someone that isn't going to fully buy in.


he was just on his pod sayin he "doesn't want to do the dirty work". that with a whole career of being a playoff loser is enough to keep him away from the knicks.



yeah pass...we need to be picky especially bringing in a big name not to upset the chemistry...if a guy doesn't want to do the little things to win when we just saw BOS big 2 defending and rebounding and doing everything...then that player isn't right for us.


pg13 as an idea is awesome - a big versatile wing who can guard multiple positions, create and hit 3s - yes please. pg13 in practice is a max player, playoff loser who is more interested in his brand than winning. keep him away from the knicks
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Post#1226 » by Wildcat » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:00 pm

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he was just on his pod sayin he "doesn't want to do the dirty work". that with a whole career of being a playoff loser is enough to keep him away from the knicks.


yeah pass...we need to be picky especially bringing in a big name not to upset the chemistry...if a guy doesn't want to do the little things to win when we just saw BOS big 2 defending and rebounding and doing everything...then that player isn't right for us.


pg13 as an idea is awesome - a big versatile wing who can guard multiple positions, create and hit 3s - yes please. pg13 in practice is a max player, playoff loser who is more interested in his brand than winning. keep him away from the knicks


It's funny, because there's some weird parallels between LA and NYK with OG/Leonard and JB/Harden.
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Post#1227 » by Guano » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:03 pm

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yeah pass...we need to be picky especially bringing in a big name not to upset the chemistry...if a guy doesn't want to do the little things to win when we just saw BOS big 2 defending and rebounding and doing everything...then that player isn't right for us.


pg13 as an idea is awesome - a big versatile wing who can guard multiple positions, create and hit 3s - yes please. pg13 in practice is a max player, playoff loser who is more interested in his brand than winning. keep him away from the knicks


It's funny, because there's some weird parallels between LA and NYK with OG/Leonard and JB/Harden.


i can see the comparison but my concern is pg13 and randle being paired together in the playoffs with their track records.
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Post#1228 » by mpharris36 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:14 pm

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yeah pass...we need to be picky especially bringing in a big name not to upset the chemistry...if a guy doesn't want to do the little things to win when we just saw BOS big 2 defending and rebounding and doing everything...then that player isn't right for us.


pg13 as an idea is awesome - a big versatile wing who can guard multiple positions, create and hit 3s - yes please. pg13 in practice is a max player, playoff loser who is more interested in his brand than winning. keep him away from the knicks


It's funny, because there's some weird parallels between LA and NYK with OG/Leonard and JB/Harden.


JB is better than Harden who's tailing his prime...also our value is in our depth as well. They sold out for the aging core 3...we have those extra role players that compliment Brunson and our main pieces.
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Post#1229 » by Wildcat » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:17 pm

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pg13 as an idea is awesome - a big versatile wing who can guard multiple positions, create and hit 3s - yes please. pg13 in practice is a max player, playoff loser who is more interested in his brand than winning. keep him away from the knicks


It's funny, because there's some weird parallels between LA and NYK with OG/Leonard and JB/Harden.


i can see the comparison but my concern is pg13 and randle being paired together in the playoffs with their track records.


I have faith Randle is going to have a promising playoffs next season. But yeah, PG13 has enough sample size that you question his playoff performance. I'm not advocating him here, but I say in his defense he was stuck with someone not playing and another player disappearing in at key moments. I think PG13 at a 2nd/3rd option works here. But paying him 45-50 over 3/4 years seems a bit over the top. I rather him go to 76ers and screw up their cap situation.
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Post#1230 » by robillionaire » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:26 pm

My first reaction was to not want Paul George just because he’s too old and kinda mid. But I’d root for him if we got him. Also he’s friends with Randle apparently. But it’s not a move I’d make
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Post#1231 » by BowlRips » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:35 pm

Wildcat wrote:
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It's funny, because there's some weird parallels between LA and NYK with OG/Leonard and JB/Harden.


i can see the comparison but my concern is pg13 and randle being paired together in the playoffs with their track records.


I have faith Randle is going to have a promising playoffs next season. But yeah, PG13 has enough sample size that you question his playoff performance. I'm not advocating him here, but I say in his defense he was stuck with someone not playing and another player disappearing in at key moments. I think PG13 at a 2nd/3rd option works here. But paying him 45-50 over 3/4 years seems a bit over the top. I rather him go to 76ers and screw up their cap situation.


lol based on what.
Julius Randle career playoff averages are 17 pts on 34!!??!?!% shooting and 26?!?!?% from 3. Westbrook has been a better playoff performer the last 3 years.

Paul George averaged 20 a game on 41 percent this last playoffs and averaged 27 on 44 percent during the Clippers 2021 conference finals run.
Oh and he’s an elite defender who can match up with Tatum and Brown.

You can have your reasons for choosing Randle over PG, but it’s certainly not playoff performance.
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Post#1232 » by DaGawd » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:36 pm

still no greek rumors huh..
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Post#1233 » by sol537 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:43 pm

robillionaire wrote:My first reaction was to not want Paul George just because he’s too old and kinda mid. But I’d root for him if we got him. Also he’s friends with Randle apparently. But it’s not a move I’d make


If he opts into his final year and gets traded to us... it wouldn't be a S&T and that could be beneficially potentially. We could do a handshake agreement where we say we'll extend him by 2-3 years later on at a lower, but more reasonable rate.

If it takes Mitch, Bogs, McBride and the #25, and the MIL future 1st. Maybe the Clippers want to make a depth play and recoup some picks for later trades. Their big 3 experiment has not worked. It's certainly better for them to get a bunch of assets than having him walk for nothing...
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Post#1234 » by Richard4444 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:46 pm

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The smart thing to do would be to do just that, butttt with them going into the new arena next season Balmer seems determined to have a competitive team next season


I do not think they can rebuild without the control of their picks until 2029.

Their stars are old and would not land many good young players in a trade.

If they balance the roster, with chemistry and some luck (not get injuries during playoffs) they can be competitive.
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Post#1235 » by Guano » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:47 pm

DaGawd wrote:still no greek rumors huh..


imagine the knicks use their capital on pg13 and giannis demands a trade this season

ill be joining wingo's fire leon hive about that time
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Post#1236 » by Meat » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:47 pm

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i can see the comparison but my concern is pg13 and randle being paired together in the playoffs with their track records.


I have faith Randle is going to have a promising playoffs next season. But yeah, PG13 has enough sample size that you question his playoff performance. I'm not advocating him here, but I say in his defense he was stuck with someone not playing and another player disappearing in at key moments. I think PG13 at a 2nd/3rd option works here. But paying him 45-50 over 3/4 years seems a bit over the top. I rather him go to 76ers and screw up their cap situation.


lol based on what.
Julius Randle career playoff averages are 17 pts on 34!!??!?!% shooting and 26?!?!?% from 3. Westbrook has been a better playoff performer the last 3 years.

Paul George averaged 20 a game on 41 percent this last playoffs and averaged 27 on 44 percent during the Clippers 2021 conference finals run.
Oh and he’s an elite defender who can match up with Tatum and Brown.

You can have your reasons for choosing Randle over PG, but it’s certainly not playoff performance.

we get it, randle's not the kind of person able to carry a #1 load, no one is asking him to do that, He'll be fine as a #2 or #3
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Post#1237 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:56 pm

What is the contingency plan if OG actually does walk? Do we make an offer on Butler?
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Post#1238 » by Richard4444 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:57 pm

Wildcat wrote:
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yeah pass...we need to be picky especially bringing in a big name not to upset the chemistry...if a guy doesn't want to do the little things to win when we just saw BOS big 2 defending and rebounding and doing everything...then that player isn't right for us.


pg13 as an idea is awesome - a big versatile wing who can guard multiple positions, create and hit 3s - yes please. pg13 in practice is a max player, playoff loser who is more interested in his brand than winning. keep him away from the knicks


It's funny, because there's some weird parallels between LA and NYK with OG/Leonard and JB/Harden.


The difference is Randle.

With Randle in the team, PG13 might be the third option on the offense.

On defense, we would have a tired former 2 way player star, a "midget" and Randle. If Donte is hot, OG would be the only player in the team that plays winning defense.
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Post#1239 » by mpharris36 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:58 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:What is the contingency plan if OG actually does walk? Do we make an offer on Butler?


man I have no clue...I don't think there is one...who else defensively impacts the game on that level that would be available. That also can shoot it at a high clip and plays off Brunson perfectly?

I don't even want to imagine it because it would be a terrible look for Leon and Co.
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Post#1240 » by Wildcat » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:59 pm

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i can see the comparison but my concern is pg13 and randle being paired together in the playoffs with their track records.


I have faith Randle is going to have a promising playoffs next season. But yeah, PG13 has enough sample size that you question his playoff performance. I'm not advocating him here, but I say in his defense he was stuck with someone not playing and another player disappearing in at key moments. I think PG13 at a 2nd/3rd option works here. But paying him 45-50 over 3/4 years seems a bit over the top. I rather him go to 76ers and screw up their cap situation.


lol based on what.
Julius Randle career playoff averages are 17 pts on 34!!??!?!% shooting and 26?!?!?% from 3. Westbrook has been a better playoff performer the last 3 years.

Paul George averaged 20 a game on 41 percent this last playoffs and averaged 27 on 44 percent during the Clippers 2021 conference finals run.
Oh and he’s an elite defender who can match up with Tatum and Brown.

You can have your reasons for choosing Randle over PG, but it’s certainly not playoff performance.


C'mon, I'm rooting for our players on the team. Why is that wrong? Randle's playoff performance is a small sample size that's been greatly exaggerated in 2 seasons. 15 games. 5 on a scrub team that anyone with an ounce of coaching sense can shut down , and 10 on an ankle that needed surgery. If he's on this team, why wouldn't I hope he turns it around?

This isn't about Randle x PG13, though. Seems like the idea that's floating around is that Randle will still be on this team with PG13. And you're only as good as your last playoff performance if we're going hold Randle to that standard.

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