2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27

[machu46]

But they are all top priorities lol. Tough to make trades that take care of one need without creating another while sacrificing depth. If we could scout, draft, and develop worth a damn we might be able to check some boxes while adding youth to our geriatric squad

Sure, but we need the patience to let the youth grow and give it the opportunity to play. We have numerous youngsters that are ready to help us.

Also, if we didn't have Bobby, would one of your priorities be: get a PF who should only really play PF, but averages 20/10 when he starts as an injury replacement? I doubt it, and we have that now. That's a luxury, not a necessity.

Who is ready? AJ and Andre were good bench guys last year. I’m curious to see Tyty get an opportunity but so far all he has shown is a poor mans cam payne. Livingston probably needs another season in the g league. If MarJon doesn’t find a shooting touch this summer he’s probably done.

Without bobby our bigs are 36 year old Brook and Giannis. Also where are those 20 points coming from on our bench? Who is our sixth man? Is bench scoring a luxury? Sure we can space out khris, dame, and Giannis minutes but these guys aren’t youngsters like White, Brown, and Tatum. If we trade our picks and our depth to get a 5th starter then we are stuck with Pat Bev, Jae, and Gallo rounding out our bench and they all looked old in the playoffs. Chances are one of our starters will miss time in the playoffs AGAIN and again we will have nobody that can step up

All 3 of those guys you mention at the end are free agents right? Entirely possibly they all come back but if we were to make that kind of trade, I think we can probably get better players on minimum deals than someone like Gallo for example. Definitely not ideal but we’re not really in an ideal position right now since we haven’t really struck gold on our draft picks as our core has aged.


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[ShootingtheJ]

But they are all top priorities lol. Tough to make trades that take care of one need without creating another while sacrificing depth. If we could scout, draft, and develop worth a damn we might be able to check some boxes while adding youth to our geriatric squad

Sure, but we need the patience to let the youth grow and give it the opportunity to play. We have numerous youngsters that are ready to help us.

Also, if we didn't have Bobby, would one of your priorities be: get a PF who should only really play PF, but averages 20/10 when he starts as an injury replacement? I doubt it, and we have that now. That's a luxury, not a necessity.

Who is ready? AJ and Andre were good bench guys last year. I’m curious to see Tyty get an opportunity but so far all he has shown is a poor mans cam payne. Livingston probably needs another season in the g league. If MarJon doesn’t find a shooting touch this summer he’s probably done.

Without bobby our bigs are 36 year old Brook and Giannis. Also where are those 20 points coming from on our bench? Who is our sixth man? Is bench scoring a luxury? Sure we can space out khris, dame, and Giannis minutes but these guys aren’t youngsters like White, Brown, and Tatum. If we trade our picks and our depth to get a 5th starter then we are stuck with Pat Bev, Jae, and Gallo rounding out our bench and they all looked old in the playoffs. Chances are one of our starters will miss time in the playoffs AGAIN and again we will have nobody that can step up

I'm not cutting Bobby, I'm trading him. You think we get nothing in return?

I agree AJJ and AJG were good bench guys, now they need to play real minutes.

[Badgerlander]

Sure, but we need the patience to let the youth grow and give it the opportunity to play. We have numerous youngsters that are ready to help us.

Also, if we didn't have Bobby, would one of your priorities be: get a PF who should only really play PF, but averages 20/10 when he starts as an injury replacement? I doubt it, and we have that now. That's a luxury, not a necessity.

Who is ready? AJ and Andre were good bench guys last year. I’m curious to see Tyty get an opportunity but so far all he has shown is a poor mans cam payne. Livingston probably needs another season in the g league. If MarJon doesn’t find a shooting touch this summer he’s probably done.

Without bobby our bigs are 36 year old Brook and Giannis. Also where are those 20 points coming from on our bench? Who is our sixth man? Is bench scoring a luxury? Sure we can space out khris, dame, and Giannis minutes but these guys aren’t youngsters like White, Brown, and Tatum. If we trade our picks and our depth to get a 5th starter then we are stuck with Pat Bev, Jae, and Gallo rounding out our bench and they all looked old in the playoffs. Chances are one of our starters will miss time in the playoffs AGAIN and again we will have nobody that can step up

I'm not cutting Bobby, I'm trading him. You think we get nothing in return?

I agree AJJ and AJG were good bench guys, now they need to play real minutes.

Ok so we trade bobby’s 20ppg and all of our picks for a starting guard that gets 20ppg, better fit etc but unless we get khris middleton type throw in its ultimately a wash and we are once again relying on the oldest team in the league being healthy come playoff time.

I would expect AJ and Andre to get consistent bench minutes this year like they did at the end of last season. They aren’t starters though unless they make a leap this offseason.

[Badgerlander]

Sure, but we need the patience to let the youth grow and give it the opportunity to play. We have numerous youngsters that are ready to help us.

Also, if we didn't have Bobby, would one of your priorities be: get a PF who should only really play PF, but averages 20/10 when he starts as an injury replacement? I doubt it, and we have that now. That's a luxury, not a necessity.

Who is ready? AJ and Andre were good bench guys last year. I’m curious to see Tyty get an opportunity but so far all he has shown is a poor mans cam payne. Livingston probably needs another season in the g league. If MarJon doesn’t find a shooting touch this summer he’s probably done.

Without bobby our bigs are 36 year old Brook and Giannis. Also where are those 20 points coming from on our bench? Who is our sixth man? Is bench scoring a luxury? Sure we can space out khris, dame, and Giannis minutes but these guys aren’t youngsters like White, Brown, and Tatum. If we trade our picks and our depth to get a 5th starter then we are stuck with Pat Bev, Jae, and Gallo rounding out our bench and they all looked old in the playoffs. Chances are one of our starters will miss time in the playoffs AGAIN and again we will have nobody that can step up

All 3 of those guys you mention at the end are free agents right? Entirely possibly they all come back but if we were to make that kind of trade, I think we can probably get better players on minimum deals than someone like Gallo for example. Definitely not ideal but we’re not really in an ideal position right now since we haven’t really struck gold on our draft picks as our core has aged.


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Yes they are all FAs, probably keep Pat Bev who turns 36 in july. Oubre was probably the best FA signing by a playoff team last year, avg 13ppg in the playoffs against the knicks. We need to hit on two guys like that

[Fotis St]

I said that Horst will draft the most unsexy picks Kyle Filipowski and Ryan Dunn cause 1.
Filipowski isn't getting any faster, he is too slow for the modern Center position and for Dunn we don't have the time to learn anyone to shoot ...
Horst did the same @/upid thing drafting Marjon ... most here were daydreaming he has the potential to become the next Kawhi ... jesus ... shooting is a very tough skill to polish. Like Giannis is almost 30 years old , 12 years of working on his shooting ... what is the result ? This is why I love draft picks who can shoot the damn rock. Defense is somewhat fixable if someone is not a d/khe@d chucker, wants to win and has the size and speed to just stay in front of his man. Dunn is a 50% FT shooter... jesus ... he can become a non NBA pro , in EU or elsewhere were offensive talent is less and the best defender in the league doesn't get clowned by a streaky Himmy who goes full MJ for a series. I like two way players but he has to be a 40+ corner 3p shooter and 70+ FT%.

[BUCKnation]

I think Filipowski is pretty skilled for his size, but I think he'll get abused defensively.

[FrieAaron]

I think Filipowski is pretty skilled for his size, but I think he'll get abused defensively.

Yeah, but a LOT of rookies need to get stronger so I almost just disregard that as a negative. Think he'd be a good pickup if he's still on the board.

[SirChurros]

Don’t have much faith in Flip. He’s very much Matthew Hurt to me, but not as good of a shooter.

[FrieAaron]

Filipowski isn't getting any faster, he is too slow for the modern Center position

You're on record of liking Edey. Who exactly would be in your mind in this draft class as fast enough? Because Filipowski performed pretty decently on the combine agility drills compared to the others that may fall to us.

[JonHeist]

starting to like Missi more the more I look into him


always a fan of guys who picked up the game late and he's only been playing for 3 or 4 years


still can't look past Ware as my #1 guy tho

20 year old 7'1" 230lb dudes who move like small forwards and can kinda pass/shoot don't grow on trees, he's like a Kirkland brand wemby

[machu46]

starting to like Missi more the more I look into him


always a fan of guys who picked up the game late and he's only been playing for 3 or 4 years


still can't look past Ware as my #1 guy tho

20 year old 7'1" 230lb dudes who move like small forwards and can kinda pass/shoot don't grow on trees, he's like a Kirkland brand wemby

Yeah I understand the risk in terms of personality traits with Ware but I feel like we have to roll the dice if he’s there. Still think in a draft like this someone will take him relatively early though.


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[msiris]

If it came down to Jaylon Tyson and Shannon? who would you guys pick? I was leaning towards Jayion since he can back up Mids if he gets hurt and give you 2nd unit play and be a Mids replacement down the road.. League seems wing driven. Shannon might be able to fill tha sg spot. Both seem like alpha guys.

[Baddy Chuck]

I get the allure but personally the more I read/watch Ware the less I actually like him.

[machu46]

If it came down to Jaylon Tyson and Shannon? who would you guys pick? I was leaning towards Jayion since he can back up Mids if he gets hurt and give you 2nd unit play and be a Mids replacement down the road.. League seems wing driven. Shannon might be able to fill tha sg spot. Both seem like alpha guys.

Shannon for me. I have Tyson like 5 spots lower on my board I think. I have Scheierman sandwiched between those two as well.


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[emunney]

I get the allure but personally the more I read/watch Ware the less I actually like him.

Watching him get **** up by anybody who can remotely compete with him on raw talent is a huge bummer.

[Badgerlander]

I get the allure but personally the more I read/watch Ware the less I actually like him.

Watching him get **** up by anybody who can remotely compete with him on raw talent is a huge bummer.

Thats why givony having Ware and Smith is such a gut punch, because it just feels like such a Horsty move

[emunney]

I get the allure but personally the more I read/watch Ware the less I actually like him.

Watching him get **** up by anybody who can remotely compete with him on raw talent is a huge bummer.

Thats why givony having Ware and Smith is such a gut punch, because it just feels like such a Horsty move

I don't mind Smith. He competes.

[Rockmaninoff]

I'm okay with these guys list.

23:
Johnny Furphy
Kyle Filipowski
DaRon Holmes


33:
Dillion Jones
Tristen Newton
Cam Christie
Harrison Ingram

Furphy provides potential of youth, developable shooting, wing size, and Aussie fun. Year 2 contributor. Fringe all-star upside.

Filipowski is Jack of all trades that makes team better no matter the configuration. Day 1 contributor. Great role player upside.

Holmes is limited and older, but could pop in the right situation.

Also like McCain, Walter, and Carrington, but they're consensus mocked before 23.

[Badgerlander]

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[emunney]

I thought Dante pulled out and was lobbying for more eligiblity?