Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 6.0

[Knightro]

Melton is a fine player, but not really a needle mover in any respect.

He's just a solid role player who, unfortunately, has also had some injury issues over the years.

[OrlChamps2030]

I am a little worried about our front office and free agency. I don't recall any moves they've made in free agency.

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To be fair, during Weltman’s tenure the team has never really been in a spot where free agency acquisitions are needed because expectations were non-existent

But we have an awesome front court that’s ready right now.. and a miserable backcourt (even with Suggs’ significant improvement as a shooter).. it would be seriously underwhelming to “run it back” and rely on internal improvements

It would be seriously

[JBSouthpaw]

IF Chicago is having a fire sale, overpay and trade our 1st for Ayo Dosunmu.
I'd run him and Suggs in the backcourt all day.
look at his post all-star splits from last season. 17ppg, 38% from 3, over 5 Assists and 1.2 steals

[Skybox]

I've been all about Simons and, to a lesser degree, Monk...but a post in the TnT forum has me giving a longer look at Sexton. I think he's not a great defender, but he's more athletic and long than I realized and I see a lot of Dawg in him. I love Simons' skillset and length, especially the super-elite long range bombing, but I can't seem to find evidence of the same level of ferocity that would look so good next to Suggs.

Looking at the trade market...my faves are Murray, Sexton, or Simons...farther back, CJ Mccollum...for the starting Lead Guard spot
1)I really like a trade with Cole and picks going out (to maintain plenty of cap space for another addition)
2) I'd love to pick up another late frp/early srp for THIS draft, because we have slots to fill and there are some upperclassmen there
3) With all of the remaining cap space, I'd like to sign Tyus Jones to a fair but declining deal. He'll be a rock-solid PG off the bench and a reliable producer for years. I don't want to build around him, but I love the stability he provides in a significant role.
4) I don't love our Center situation...but I don't hate it either. Maybe, if we pick up a second pick we grab Ware, Missi, or Holmes and hope he's this year's Lively and, perhaps, next year's starter or, at least, a significant role player on a rookie deal. Not opposed to keeping Goga on a deal less than 4 or 5m - if he doesn't get better offers. Worst fallback, but still intriguing is Bamba on a vet min, "save your career" non-guaranteed deal...still so young, so gifted, and such a perfect fit if he'd just get it together. Even for 8mpg.

Assuming Murray just not happening for us...
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, ORL 25 frp (top 8 protected), DEN 25 frp
UTA sends: Sexton, #29
*Utah saves 5m, then 6m in salary. Still has #10. Has THREE developing rookies from last season. Ainge is hoarding assets, so 2 future frps are chips in his pocket. I figure DEN 25 is worth more than #29 in this "weak" draft, even though I like it for us. Cole does a lot of what Sexton does and could even have a big (value-raising) season in a leading role in UTA...so Ainge could flip him again at TD, especially given Cole's good deal just kicking in.

ORL, assuming Fultz, Okeke, Harris, Goga, Houstan, Ingles gone...still has nearly $40m

Throw a heavily front-loaded 3 or even 4 year deal at Tyus, averaging $15m. The more you can front-load it, given our cap situation, the better. Throw another $13m x 2yr with another yr TO at a solid versatile vet like Kyle Anderson - who should be at that price point now. He more than replaces Ingles but can play bigger too. Should still be a bit left over...again, front load as much as possible...maybe even explore a waive & restructure longer term deals for Isaac and Mo...frontload ALL that you can while we have a bucket of cash...in a couple of years it will look brilliant.

Draft Baylor Schierman at #18 and most promising big C at #29 (Ware, Missi, Holmes?). One draftee will contribute immediately. Mocks are ALL over the place on the Centers. Schierman seems to be on the rise and as safe a pick as any in the draft.

WCJ, M. Wagner, Ware
Paolo, Isaac, Anderson
Franz, Anderson, AB
Suggs, Jett, Schierman
Sexton, Tyus, AB

...so much positional versatility and depth here...lineups are just a starting point. I see so many directions and matchups.

[eyriq]

If they want a playmaker, DeAngelo and Tyus are still out there. If they want a shooter, Klay, Hield, and GTJ are still out there. KCP and Melton are interesting options. Hartenstein and Claxton are looming large.

Gotta spend money somewhere.

[Skybox]

IF Chicago is having a fire sale, overpay and trade our 1st for Ayo Dosunmu.
I'd run him and Suggs in the backcourt all day.
look at his post all-star splits from last season. 17ppg, 38% from 3, over 5 Assists and 1.2 steals

he's an interesting guy who has had some ups and downs...I'm not sure what the vision is with Giddey. Coby had a breakout year, primarily with the ball in his hands...Could CHI be betting on Giddey and liquidating anything else that isn't nailed down? I don't know if Coby is in their long-term plans - maybe they go full Ainge/Presti and just try to collect assets and tank. Coby White would be a fantastic fit next to Suggs if that was the plan...Ayo isn't a bad fallback, but doesn't move the needle so much, imo.

[Knightro]

I've been all about Simons and, to a lesser degree, Monk...but a post in the TnT forum has me giving a longer look at Sexton. I think he's not a great defender, but he's more athletic and long than I realized and I see a lot of Dawg in him. I love Simons' skillset and length, especially the super-elite long range bombing, but I can't seem to find evidence of the same level of ferocity that would look so good next to Suggs.

If you like Simons and Monk, there's absolutely no reason to not like Sexton.

He fits that exact same mold.

[eyriq]

Is cap space as a trade asset enough to get us players? Could be. Could see us take that path.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

I've been all about Simons and, to a lesser degree, Monk...but a post in the TnT forum has me giving a longer look at Sexton. I think he's not a great defender, but he's more athletic and long than I realized and I see a lot of Dawg in him. I love Simons' skillset and length, especially the super-elite long range bombing, but I can't seem to find evidence of the same level of ferocity that would look so good next to Suggs.

Looking at the trade market...my faves are Murray, Sexton, or Simons...farther back, CJ Mccollum...for the starting Lead Guard spot
1)I really like a trade with Cole and picks going out (to maintain plenty of cap space for another addition)
2) I'd love to pick up another late frp/early srp for THIS draft, because we have slots to fill and there are some upperclassmen there
3) With all of the remaining cap space, I'd like to sign Tyus Jones to a fair but declining deal. He'll be a rock-solid PG off the bench and a reliable producer for years. I don't want to build around him, but I love the stability he provides in a significant role.
4) I don't love our Center situation...but I don't hate it either. Maybe, if we pick up a second pick we grab Ware, Missi, or Holmes and hope he's this year's Lively and, perhaps, next year's starter or, at least, a significant role player on a rookie deal. Not opposed to keeping Goga on a deal less than 4 or 5m - if he doesn't get better offers. Worst fallback, but still intriguing is Bamba on a vet min, "save your career" non-guaranteed deal...still so young, so gifted, and such a perfect fit if he'd just get it together. Even for 8mpg.

Assuming Murray just not happening for us...
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, ORL 25 frp (top 8 protected), DEN 25 frp
UTA sends: Sexton, #29
*Utah saves 5m, then 6m in salary. Still has #10. Has THREE developing rookies from last season. Ainge is hoarding assets, so 2 future frps are chips in his pocket. I figure DEN 25 is worth more than #29 in this "weak" draft, even though I like it for us. Cole does a lot of what Sexton does and could even have a big (value-raising) season in a leading role in UTA...so Ainge could flip him again at TD, especially given Cole's good deal just kicking in.

ORL, assuming Fultz, Okeke, Harris, Goga, Houstan, Ingles gone...still has nearly $40m

Throw a heavily front-loaded 3 or even 4 year deal at Tyus, averaging $15m. The more you can front-load it, given our cap situation, the better. Throw another $13m x 2yr with another yr TO at a solid versatile vet like Kyle Anderson - who should be at that price point now. He more than replaces Ingles but can play bigger too. Should still be a bit left over...again, front load as much as possible...maybe even explore a waive & restructure longer term deals for Isaac and Mo...frontload ALL that you can while we have a bucket of cash...in a couple of years it will look brilliant.

Draft Baylor Schierman at #18 and most promising big C at #29 (Ware, Missi, Holmes?). One draftee will contribute immediately. Mocks are ALL over the place on the Centers. Schierman seems to be on the rise and as safe a pick as any in the draft.

WCJ, M. Wagner, Ware
Paolo, Isaac, Anderson
Franz, Anderson, AB
Suggs, Jett, Schierman
Sexton, Tyus, AB

...so much positional versatility and depth here...lineups are just a starting point. I see so many directions and matchups.

feel like we have put more thoughts into developing and improving this roster then our actual FO.

Love the idea of moving Cole for Sexton but it seems like such a meh trade for Utah outside of saving a little cap and getting picks. I think Utah is in such a weird spot right now with that roster. Lauri is class, George is PG of future, Kessler is solid and then a bunch of meh. Jazz do have some solid cap space though to either improve that roster or take money for picks.

I have loved Tyus as a backup/spot starter since he signed in Washington so that's an easy yes for me but I don't see this FO trading for Sexton and then going after Tyus. They'll just slide AB in at backup 2. It would be a one or the other move for me.

I also would love to snag another late 1st and grab a bruiser at C like Missi or Holmes

[Skybox]

I've been, inadvertently, suggesting scenarios that are opposite of the conventional backcourt 6th man role...instead of an "instant offense" spark...I'm thinking ORL opens with the ferocity of Suggs and some explosive, aggressive offensive player starting. Then, after a blistering, exhausting start, Tyus comes in with surgical efficiency and protects the lead with steady leadership and/or Black comes in to maintain the defensive intensity and pressure that keeps opponents on their heels while Suggs drinks some Tiger Blood on the bench...depending on situations, that's some really nice versatility and variety...if Jett turns into Hield overnight - that's another devastating weapon that can blow games open (or collapse leads quickly)...The dream of two attack dogs right out of the gate making for a miserable night for the opposition, followed by whatever cavalry is indicated - efficient, mistake-free mop up or further defensive aggression, seems like a really workable picture.

[Skybox]

I have loved Tyus as a backup/spot starter since he signed in Washington so that's an easy yes for me but I don't see this FO trading for Sexton and then going after Tyus. They'll just slide AB in at backup 2. It would be a one or the other move for me.

I also would love to snag another late 1st and grab a bruiser at C like Missi or Holmes

I'm still really hooked on AB picking up mins in the Jingles spot as well as some at PG...He's so big and versatile and, defensively, can earn minutes without the pressure of running a team offense (which I don't see YET- even in a forward-heavy scheme). I want the FO to do something dramatic with our backcourt and I don't think it has to step directly in the way of AB still having a great year of growth and refining the vision of what he can be. IF Jett is suddenly a deadeye weapon - they'll find minutes for him...there's a lot of minutes leaving in FA.

I really like the possibility of improving so significantly and STILL being able to use a fair amount of available cap space to front-load everything possible...that's an easily overlooked use of cap that could pay for many years as we get into contention and rookie extensions...I'm not afraid of committing extra years to a guy like Tyus...I think he's a really safe bet for what he is...and, just about any decent player with a descending deal is going to remain tradable, under predictable conditions.

[JBSouthpaw]

IF Chicago is having a fire sale, overpay and trade our 1st for Ayo Dosunmu.
I'd run him and Suggs in the backcourt all day.
look at his post all-star splits from last season. 17ppg, 38% from 3, over 5 Assists and 1.2 steals

he's an interesting guy who has had some ups and downs...I'm not sure what the vision is with Giddey. Coby had a breakout year, primarily with the ball in his hands...Could CHI be betting on Giddey and liquidating anything else that isn't nailed down? I don't know if Coby is in their long-term plans - maybe they go full Ainge/Presti and just try to collect assets and tank. Coby White would be a fantastic fit next to Suggs if that was the plan...Ayo isn't a bad fallback, but doesn't move the needle so much, imo.

I'd rather have Coby too, but would be harder to get with breakout this past season.

Ayo's 38% on 4 3s a game replacing Fultz is a nice move of the needle for me, and he could also play next to Cole too.
Keeping 1 of him and Suggs on the court gives us good defensive balance too.
He could fill both Fultz and Harris roles, while still leaving all the $$ for a PG.

[tiderulz]

IF Chicago is having a fire sale, overpay and trade our 1st for Ayo Dosunmu.
I'd run him and Suggs in the backcourt all day.
look at his post all-star splits from last season. 17ppg, 38% from 3, over 5 Assists and 1.2 steals

he's an interesting guy who has had some ups and downs...I'm not sure what the vision is with Giddey. Coby had a breakout year, primarily with the ball in his hands...Could CHI be betting on Giddey and liquidating anything else that isn't nailed down? I don't know if Coby is in their long-term plans - maybe they go full Ainge/Presti and just try to collect assets and tank. Coby White would be a fantastic fit next to Suggs if that was the plan...Ayo isn't a bad fallback, but doesn't move the needle so much, imo.

i was shouting out for Ayo in the draft, and we ended up taking Preston and trading him to the Clips. but i dont see Chicago trading him away, he can play both guard positions for Chicago.

[CocoaFan]

Wow, suprising. Thought he (Monk) could get a little more elsewhere.

ORL dodged a bullet.

Can you expand on that? We don't get to see many west coast games living here in the Orlando area

[CocoaFan]

Wow, suprising. Thought he (Monk) could get a little more elsewhere.

ORL dodged a bullet.

Can you expand on that? We don't get to see many west coast games living here in the Orlando area

Never mind, already answered

[meatwad4343]

ORL dodged a bullet.

Can you expand on that? We don't get to see many west coast games living here in the Orlando area

Never mind, already answered

The interest in him around the league must have been overblown, unless he really loves sac enough to take about 20 million less over the length of that contract. Most projections I Read had him getting 95-100 mil

[eyriq]

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[JBSouthpaw]

IF Chicago is having a fire sale, overpay and trade our 1st for Ayo Dosunmu.
I'd run him and Suggs in the backcourt all day.
look at his post all-star splits from last season. 17ppg, 38% from 3, over 5 Assists and 1.2 steals

he's an interesting guy who has had some ups and downs...I'm not sure what the vision is with Giddey. Coby had a breakout year, primarily with the ball in his hands...Could CHI be betting on Giddey and liquidating anything else that isn't nailed down? I don't know if Coby is in their long-term plans - maybe they go full Ainge/Presti and just try to collect assets and tank. Coby White would be a fantastic fit next to Suggs if that was the plan...Ayo isn't a bad fallback, but doesn't move the needle so much, imo.

i was shouting out for Ayo in the draft, and we ended up taking Preston and trading him to the Clips. but i dont see Chicago trading him away, he can play both guard positions for Chicago.

With Giddy coming on board, I see a slight chance, the good thing is, I think we could overpay with draft capital and maybe Houstan.

[Magic#1]

IF Chicago is having a fire sale, overpay and trade our 1st for Ayo Dosunmu.
I'd run him and Suggs in the backcourt all day.
look at his post all-star splits from last season. 17ppg, 38% from 3, over 5 Assists and 1.2 steals

he's an interesting guy who has had some ups and downs...I'm not sure what the vision is with Giddey. Coby had a breakout year, primarily with the ball in his hands...Could CHI be betting on Giddey and liquidating anything else that isn't nailed down? I don't know if Coby is in their long-term plans - maybe they go full Ainge/Presti and just try to collect assets and tank. Coby White would be a fantastic fit next to Suggs if that was the plan...Ayo isn't a bad fallback, but doesn't move the needle so much, imo.

I'd rather have Coby too, but would be harder to get with breakout this past season.

Ayo's 38% on 4 3s a game replacing Fultz is a nice move of the needle for me, and he could also play next to Cole too.
Keeping 1 of him and Suggs on the court gives us good defensive balance too.
He could fill both Fultz and Harris roles, while still leaving all the $$ for a PG.

Ayo or Coby would be tremendous pickups. But they both have solid contracts for the next two years. Even with Giddey, I don't see Chicago looking to trade them. If a firesale happens in Chicago, which is definitely possible, I don't think they let go of Ayo or Coby.

[jonbob17]

Wow, suprising. Thought he (Monk) could get a little more elsewhere.

ORL dodged a bullet.

I am with you on this one. Not sure where the salary projections were coming from. I liked Monk before he signed originally with the Kings, granted I didn’t think last year would happen, it was an impressive year but he’s 26. Not sure how he would be anywhere close to other no defense guys like Simons or Herro, and those guys seem like they are taking up too much cap.

D’Angelo Russell is way more accomplished on offense and is only 2 years older than Monk, and is probably going to cost less than the 18-20% of the cap some of these other guards are making, and his defense isn’t quite as terrible as some of these other guys.