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Re: Prodigal Son: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#1001 » by luciano-davidwesley » Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:02 am

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JustBuzzin wrote:If we plan on being a major player in future trades you absolutely bring Miles back. He's key to trading for a major player in the future. Right now Melo our only real big salary player. We need a major salary player to become players for the big name guys that become available.

Im 100% on the keep Miles bandwagon as we move closer to FA. Losing him for nothing would be flat out stupid. We lack talent, keep one of our more talented players.

The only scenario where it might be plausable to lose Miles is if he gets offered elsewhere/won't accept under $30 million plus AAV fully guaranteed and you aren't comfortable with that figure AND you are confident you can sign Patrick Williams for around $15-20 million AAV

Great now we literally have Melo/Miller as our only scorers.

What's the plan tank for Cooper Flagg?

Agree but it's better than paying Miles $31-$35 million per season when we weren't going to contend next year anyway.

Miles on $25-$30 million per annum is plan A
Patrick Williams is plan B
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Re: Prodigal Son: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#1002 » by KembaWalker » Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:11 am

JustBuzzin wrote:
luciano-davidwesley wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:If we plan on being a major player in future trades you absolutely bring Miles back. He's key to trading for a major player in the future. Right now Melo our only real big salary player. We need a major salary player to become players for the big name guys that become available.

Im 100% on the keep Miles bandwagon as we move closer to FA. Losing him for nothing would be flat out stupid. We lack talent, keep one of our more talented players.

The only scenario where it might be plausable to lose Miles is if he gets offered elsewhere/won't accept under $30 million plus AAV fully guaranteed and you aren't comfortable with that figure AND you are confident you can sign Patrick Williams for around $15-20 million AAV

Great now we literally have Melo/Miller as our only scorers.

What's the plan tank for Cooper Flagg?


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Re: Prodigal Son: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#1003 » by fatlever » Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:16 am

I like that Patrick Williams is from Charlotte, but can he actually play? He's never healthy and in the games where he was playing he felt completely invisible like Builder basic house paint.

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Re: Prodigal Son: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#1004 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:20 am

luciano-davidwesley wrote:
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luciano-davidwesley wrote:The only scenario where it might be plausable to lose Miles is if he gets offered elsewhere/won't accept under $30 million plus AAV fully guaranteed and you aren't comfortable with that figure AND you are confident you can sign Patrick Williams for around $15-20 million AAV

Great now we literally have Melo/Miller as our only scorers.

What's the plan tank for Cooper Flagg?

Agree but it's better than paying Miles $31-$35 million per season when we weren't going to contend next year anyway.

Miles on $25-$30 million per annum is plan A
Patrick Williams is plan B

We have to pay someone lol

I look at Miles as a potential trade piece for a big time player. Without big salary on the roster we won't be able to salary match for bigger trades. Miles + picks gets us in the conversation for a trade down the line.

Just because we bring him back doesn't mean we have to keep him longterm on that salary.
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Re: Prodigal Son: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#1005 » by luciano-davidwesley » Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:52 am

JustBuzzin wrote:
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JustBuzzin wrote:Great now we literally have Melo/Miller as our only scorers.

What's the plan tank for Cooper Flagg?

Agree but it's better than paying Miles $31-$35 million per season when we weren't going to contend next year anyway.

Miles on $25-$30 million per annum is plan A
Patrick Williams is plan B

We have to pay someone lol

I look at Miles as a potential trade piece for a big time player. Without big salary on the roster we won't be able to salary match for bigger trades. Miles + picks gets us in the conversation for a trade down the line.

Just because we bring him back doesn't mean we have to keep him longterm on that salary.

I totally agree with you. But there's a fine line between being neutral value salary filler ($25-$30 million Miles) and being a negative contract requiring incentive to move ($30-$35 million Miles)
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Re: Prodigal Son: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#1006 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:57 am

luciano-davidwesley wrote:
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luciano-davidwesley wrote:Agree but it's better than paying Miles $31-$35 million per season when we weren't going to contend next year anyway.

Miles on $25-$30 million per annum is plan A
Patrick Williams is plan B

We have to pay someone lol

I look at Miles as a potential trade piece for a big time player. Without big salary on the roster we won't be able to salary match for bigger trades. Miles + picks gets us in the conversation for a trade down the line.

Just because we bring him back doesn't mean we have to keep him longterm on that salary.

I totally agree with you. But there's a fine line between being neutral value salary filler ($25-$30 million Miles) and being a negative contract requiring incentive to move ($30-$35 million Miles)

Agreed, but im fully expecting him to be 30mil per year or lower. Detroit will likely be our competition. I can't see them overpaying just because. Miles still has baggage on his record. Not sure that a young team would pay him a boatload of cash to lead them for the future.

Good thing is FA is right around the corner and all the speculation will come to a end. I'm ready to see this roster post draft and FA.
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Re: Prodigal Son: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#1007 » by yosemiteben » Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:12 am

Read on Twitter


Feels like made up stuff but just fyi
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Re: Prodigal Son: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#1008 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:16 am

yosemiteben wrote:
Read on Twitter


Feels like made up stuff but just fyi


Lol "wirehoops"

I'll believe it when I see it.
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Re: Prodigal Son: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#1009 » by LofJ » Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:17 am

If it's Amico let it go, if it's Amick let it stick.

Amico isn't a credible reporter.
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Re: Prodigal Son: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#1010 » by Rich4114 » Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:25 am

If I understand how the cap situation works, we have no choice but to sign him. Letting him walk for nothing without the ability to replace him with a player of similar caliber sends the message that this team isn’t planning on winning anytime soon. It lights yet another asset on fire. If you S&T him then fine, but that’s likely a scenario we lose in too.
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Re: Prodigal Son: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#1011 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:00 am

Posting Amico rumors is WILD.

Nothing to see here folks!
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Re: Prodigal Son: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#1012 » by GoBobs » Fri Jun 21, 2024 2:46 am

Miles Bridges 3pt percentage from last year - .349
career percentage - .347

PJ Washington 3pt percentage from last year - .320
career percentage - .354

Grant Williams 3pt percentage from last year - .375
career percentage - .377

Grant also has the highest true shooting percentage, plays the best defense and boxes out. We are going to be in good shape no matter what happens with Bridges.
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Re: Prodigal Son: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#1013 » by JMAC3 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:27 pm

GoBobs wrote:Miles Bridges 3pt percentage from last year - .349
career percentage - .347

PJ Washington 3pt percentage from last year - .320
career percentage - .354

Grant Williams 3pt percentage from last year - .375
career percentage - .377

Grant also has the highest true shooting percentage, plays the best defense and boxes out. We are going to be in good shape no matter what happens with Bridges.


Grant is bench player in this league, if we are starting him its an issue. It wasn't working for the Mavs who have a top 5 player in their lineup, probably not a good idea for a team without a top 30 player to assume it should work.
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Re: Prodigal Son: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#1014 » by GoBobs » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:33 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
GoBobs wrote:Miles Bridges 3pt percentage from last year - .349
career percentage - .347

PJ Washington 3pt percentage from last year - .320
career percentage - .354

Grant Williams 3pt percentage from last year - .375
career percentage - .377

Grant also has the highest true shooting percentage, plays the best defense and boxes out. We are going to be in good shape no matter what happens with Bridges.


Grant is bench player in this league, if we are starting him its an issue. It wasn't working for the Mavs who have a top 5 player in their lineup, probably not a good idea for a team without a top 30 player to assume it should work.


It wasn't working for the Mavs because Grant was being physical and trash talking Luka in practice. You need guys that raise the intensity level of your practices if you want to become good. Luka is just a crybaby in addition to being a huge douche.

Grant isn't as talented as Washington or Miles, but he is a better role player. More chance Miles or PJ could take a step and become a star, but really all of them are role players right now. Grant is better at it.

If Miles or PJ is one of your stars, you get what we got last year, a lotto pick.
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Post#1015 » by LofJ » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:36 pm

I'm not going to lie, if we went through all this only for Miles to end up walking I will not be happy.
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Post#1016 » by JDR720 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:57 pm

I don't believe these rumors for that reason alone.

If we didn't want him. He would've been gone by now.

His agent will play hardball. But realistically, nobody else has cap to sign him besides the Pistons. Are they really going to shoot their cap on Miles? They have a lot of holes to fill, adding another mediocre shooter isn't one of them. Feels like that link is mostly because he is from there.
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Post#1017 » by Bassman » Fri Jun 21, 2024 2:16 pm

JDR720 wrote:I don't believe these rumors for that reason alone.

If we didn't want him. He would've been gone by now.

His agent will play hardball. But realistically, nobody else has cap to sign him besides the Pistons. Are they really going to shoot their cap on Miles? They have a lot of holes to fill, adding another mediocre shooter isn't one of them. Feels like that link is mostly because he is from there.


We have a whole new regime in place…don’t base our actions with Miles pre-Peterson. We can dismiss the poor track records of the “sports reporters” but it follows some previous chatter claiming the Hornets will not pay Miles top dollar to stay. Supposedly they don’t want to overpay for average production. The fact that there is NO announced signing multiple days into our negotiation window (like other hometown FA’s such as Siakam and Monk) tells me nothing is forthcoming. Now the question is how long do they wait for the market to decide verses pursuing a replacement?
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Post#1018 » by GoBobs » Fri Jun 21, 2024 2:38 pm

Could there also be a possibility that we are trying to utilize the advantage of his small cap hold? Are we telling him behind the scenes that we are going to sign other guys then use his small cap hold and bird rights as a vehicle to go over the cap? I don't know if that is possible within the rules or not.
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Post#1019 » by JMAC3 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 2:53 pm

JDR720 wrote:I don't believe these rumors for that reason alone.

If we didn't want him. He would've been gone by now.

His agent will play hardball. But realistically, nobody else has cap to sign him besides the Pistons. Are they really going to shoot their cap on Miles? They have a lot of holes to fill, adding another mediocre shooter isn't one of them. Feels like that link is mostly because he is from there.


We are probably looking at a PJ Washington 2.0 deal. Where he wants probably more than his market value, Hornets won't bid against themselves to give him the 30+ he is probably asking for. So the move will probably be let's see what Detroit, Philly, Utah, Orlando do with their space because if they sign other guys then Miles won't have that much leverage.
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Re: Prodigal Son: The Miles Bridges Thread 

Post#1020 » by LofJ » Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:01 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
JDR720 wrote:I don't believe these rumors for that reason alone.

If we didn't want him. He would've been gone by now.

His agent will play hardball. But realistically, nobody else has cap to sign him besides the Pistons. Are they really going to shoot their cap on Miles? They have a lot of holes to fill, adding another mediocre shooter isn't one of them. Feels like that link is mostly because he is from there.


We are probably looking at a PJ Washington 2.0 deal. Where he wants probably more than his market value, Hornets won't bid against themselves to give him the 30+ he is probably asking for. So the move will probably be let's see what Detroit, Philly, Utah, Orlando do with their space because if they sign other guys then Miles won't have that much leverage.


I think you might be right on with this prediction. And if that's the case it will be mid-July at the earliest before we hear anything.

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