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2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27)

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With the Draft going to 2 Days. Would you like to see a 3rd Round added, for Two-Ways, etc?

Add a 3rd Round.
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Add more than a 3rd Round.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#1841 » by 165bows » Fri Jun 21, 2024 2:44 am

Dogen wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:This analyst has some fans on this board. Here is his new mock draft that just dropped:

https://edemirnba.substack.com/p/2024-nba-mock-draft

165bows wrote:This guy does some really nice write ups.


Ersin definitely marches to the beat of his own mock drummer. Some of the picks we think will be there for the Celtics at #30 are long gone, and some of the guys we hope slip to 30, slip right past Boston into the mid-second.

And whose he got at #30? AJ Johnson, a 19 year-old point guard playing in New Zealand. Has AJ even been mentioned here?

6'5, 167lbs. Long, skinny and fast -- I'd like to see a guy like this on the team. But I don't get the match for current roster construction, particularly, unless the Celtics want to use that pick to develop a young PG for the future. Brad would need to see something pretty special, one would think.

Priority this summer is the Tatum and White extensions. Draft is important, but I still assume there will be the extensions, then evaluating our current young guys like Tillman, Springer, (Queta, Walsh?), and the possibility of minor trade or move to shore up the 7-10 roster spots with some vet help.

So using this draft to add to the stockpile of young talent isn't too far fetched. Maybe not the "steal of the draft" but Johnson might fit the bill to develop behind Holiday and White over the next few years.





And he made it out of Fresno, extra points for that.

Didn’t much of anything about this guy until recently, I as sort of planned on writing him off. Not sure who he reminds me of physically. Sort of a Delon Wright body type where he’s pretty tall and really narrow as a guard not sure who is a better comparison.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#1842 » by Dogen » Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:13 am

165bows wrote:
Dogen wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:This analyst has some fans on this board. Here is his new mock draft that just dropped:

https://edemirnba.substack.com/p/2024-nba-mock-draft



Ersin definitely marches to the beat of his own mock drummer. Some of the picks we think will be there for the Celtics at #30 are long gone, and some of the guys we hope slip to 30, slip right past Boston into the mid-second.

And whose he got at #30? AJ Johnson, a 19 year-old point guard playing in New Zealand. Has AJ even been mentioned here?

6'5, 167lbs. Long, skinny and fast -- I'd like to see a guy like this on the team. But I don't get the match for current roster construction, particularly, unless the Celtics want to use that pick to develop a young PG for the future. Brad would need to see something pretty special, one would think.

Priority this summer is the Tatum and White extensions. Draft is important, but I still assume there will be the extensions, then evaluating our current young guys like Tillman, Springer, (Queta, Walsh?), and the possibility of minor trade or move to shore up the 7-10 roster spots with some vet help.

So using this draft to add to the stockpile of young talent isn't too far fetched. Maybe not the "steal of the draft" but Johnson might fit the bill to develop behind Holiday and White over the next few years.

Didn’t much of anything about this guy until recently, I as sort of planned on writing him off. Not sure who he reminds me of physically. Sort of a Delon Wright body type where he’s pretty tall and really narrow as a guard not sure who is a better comparison.


He reminds me of a cross between Kobe Bryant and Michael Jackson. :wink:
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#1843 » by 165bows » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:08 pm

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Ersin definitely marches to the beat of his own mock drummer. Some of the picks we think will be there for the Celtics at #30 are long gone, and some of the guys we hope slip to 30, slip right past Boston into the mid-second.

And whose he got at #30? AJ Johnson, a 19 year-old point guard playing in New Zealand. Has AJ even been mentioned here?

6'5, 167lbs. Long, skinny and fast -- I'd like to see a guy like this on the team. But I don't get the match for current roster construction, particularly, unless the Celtics want to use that pick to develop a young PG for the future. Brad would need to see something pretty special, one would think.

Priority this summer is the Tatum and White extensions. Draft is important, but I still assume there will be the extensions, then evaluating our current young guys like Tillman, Springer, (Queta, Walsh?), and the possibility of minor trade or move to shore up the 7-10 roster spots with some vet help.

So using this draft to add to the stockpile of young talent isn't too far fetched. Maybe not the "steal of the draft" but Johnson might fit the bill to develop behind Holiday and White over the next few years.

Didn’t much of anything about this guy until recently, I as sort of planned on writing him off. Not sure who he reminds me of physically. Sort of a Delon Wright body type where he’s pretty tall and really narrow as a guard not sure who is a better comparison.


He reminds me of a cross between Kobe Bryant and Michael Jackson. :wink:

Lol that’s pretty funny actually.

I assumed he sucked but that No Ceilings podcast with Kristen Peek (sp) that was posted a few pages back was high on him as well. I suppose if there is a bailable stash they can go in that direction as well. I might have been under rating him and Dadiet a good bit.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#1844 » by Hal14 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:55 pm

My guy, Djurisic..

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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#1845 » by phincsfan » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:00 pm

165bows wrote:
Dogen wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:This analyst has some fans on this board. Here is his new mock draft that just dropped:

https://edemirnba.substack.com/p/2024-nba-mock-draft



Ersin definitely marches to the beat of his own mock drummer. Some of the picks we think will be there for the Celtics at #30 are long gone, and some of the guys we hope slip to 30, slip right past Boston into the mid-second.

And whose he got at #30? AJ Johnson, a 19 year-old point guard playing in New Zealand. Has AJ even been mentioned here?

6'5, 167lbs. Long, skinny and fast -- I'd like to see a guy like this on the team. But I don't get the match for current roster construction, particularly, unless the Celtics want to use that pick to develop a young PG for the future. Brad would need to see something pretty special, one would think.

Priority this summer is the Tatum and White extensions. Draft is important, but I still assume there will be the extensions, then evaluating our current young guys like Tillman, Springer, (Queta, Walsh?), and the possibility of minor trade or move to shore up the 7-10 roster spots with some vet help.

So using this draft to add to the stockpile of young talent isn't too far fetched. Maybe not the "steal of the draft" but Johnson might fit the bill to develop behind Holiday and White over the next few years.





And he made it out of Fresno, extra points for that.

Didn’t much of anything about this guy until recently, I as sort of planned on writing him off. Not sure who he reminds me of physically. Sort of a Delon Wright body type where he’s pretty tall and really narrow as a guard not sure who is a better comparison.


Looks like AL's son in the picture of the second video.

Did he average 3ppg?
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#1846 » by phincsfan » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:03 pm

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10125486-2024-nba-mock-draft-with-5-trades-in-round-1

B/R has the C's making a trade to move up to 24 and get Ware. That would be wild.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#1847 » by redslastlaugh » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:03 pm

I like Djurisic also. If we are gonna use a pick on a stash, I’d prioritize Djurisic.

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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#1848 » by keevsnick1 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:09 pm

Bleacher Report's latest Mock Draft has the C's trading #30, #54 and the 2026 Best of 4 second round pick to NYK for #24 and taking Kel'el Ware. That's the kind of trade I would like to see, i think getting up to on of those Knicks picks with #30, #54 and a future second is in line with past trade values for that sort of move up.

SI has the C's taking Yves Missi at #30.

Sam Vecenie of the Athletic just rel;eased his draft guide. He has DaRon Holmes, Tyler Smith and Kel'el Ware listed at 24,25,26 on his big board with Kyle Filipowski at 16. All those guys are in a tier of 16-28 as "rotation players and upside swings."
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#1849 » by Dogen » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:31 pm

keevsnick1 wrote:Bleacher Report's latest Mock Draft has the C's trading #30, #54 and the 2026 Best of 4 second round pick to NYK for #24 and taking Kel'el Ware. That's the kind of trade I would like to see, i think getting up to on of those Knicks picks with #30, #54 and a future second is in line with past trade values for that sort of move up.

SI has the C's taking Yves Missi at #30.

Sam Vecenie of the Athletic just rel;eased his draft guide. He has DaRon Holmes, Tyler Smith and Kel'el Ware listed at 24,25,26 on his big board with Kyle Filipowski at 16. All those guys are in a tier of 16-28 as "rotation players and upside swings."


I don't get it for the Knicks, seems like they already got too many guys, and with this they trade down but still have the guaranteed contract of end of first round. But it's the Knicks so who knows?

Also would be a change of form for Brad to trade up. I'm not against it if there is a player available that can come in and contribute. Maybe we're due for adding someone who's not two years away.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#1850 » by brackdan70 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:32 pm

keevsnick1 wrote:Bleacher Report's latest Mock Draft has the C's trading #30, #54 and the 2026 Best of 4 second round pick to NYK for #24 and taking Kel'el Ware. That's the kind of trade I would like to see, i think getting up to on of those Knicks picks with #30, #54 and a future second is in line with past trade values for that sort of move up.

SI has the C's taking Yves Missi at #30.

Sam Vecenie of the Athletic just rel;eased his draft guide. He has DaRon Holmes, Tyler Smith and Kel'el Ware listed at 24,25,26 on his big board with Kyle Filipowski at 16. All those guys are in a tier of 16-28 as "rotation players and upside swings."

I’d be thrilled with any of those guys.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#1851 » by Dogen » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:35 pm

Kel'el Ware though. 7' rim-runner with 3pt shot. Maybe worth a trade up.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#1852 » by keevsnick1 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:02 pm

Dogen wrote:
keevsnick1 wrote:Bleacher Report's latest Mock Draft has the C's trading #30, #54 and the 2026 Best of 4 second round pick to NYK for #24 and taking Kel'el Ware. That's the kind of trade I would like to see, i think getting up to on of those Knicks picks with #30, #54 and a future second is in line with past trade values for that sort of move up.

SI has the C's taking Yves Missi at #30.

Sam Vecenie of the Athletic just rel;eased his draft guide. He has DaRon Holmes, Tyler Smith and Kel'el Ware listed at 24,25,26 on his big board with Kyle Filipowski at 16. All those guys are in a tier of 16-28 as "rotation players and upside swings."


I don't get it for the Knicks, seems like they already got too many guys, and with this they trade down but still have the guaranteed contract of end of first round. But it's the Knicks so who knows?

Also would be a change of form for Brad to trade up. I'm not against it if there is a player available that can come in and contribute. Maybe we're due for adding someone who's not two years away.


So I think the idea for the Knicks would be to do something similar to what the C's did last year.

They could trade #25 for lets say #30 and the best of Det/Was/Gsw/Dal 2nd rounder the c's have next year. That gives them an extra high second rounder. Then they trade #30 again for some other future draft pick(s). Basically they turn #24 or #25 into multiple future pieces they could use in deals rather than a rookie who probably gets buried by Thibs.

Maybe they find a better offer than the C's could make, but I'd bet they will be trying to turn one of those into future assets.

For the Celtics it just depends on how they feel about the big-man prospects. If they just don't view them that favorably then its not really worth a trade up.

Honestly I think all three of trade up, stay put, trade down are in play.
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Post#1853 » by phincsfan » Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:14 pm

Rumor is also Knicks looking to trade Robinson
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Post#1854 » by Hal14 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:15 pm

phincsfan wrote:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10125486-2024-nba-mock-draft-with-5-trades-in-round-1

B/R has the C's making a trade to move up to 24 and get Ware. That would be wild.

Woah, that would be wild.

I would definitely do that trade.

I actually have Filipowski ranked 1 spot ahead of Ware on my big board right now (Flip at 12, Ware at 13) so if we trade up I might take Flip over Ware but would be pretty pumped if we got either of them..
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Post#1855 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:50 pm

Kel'el Ware regressed last year, starting with his free throw shooting, which was barely 60%. Why draft someone like that when you already have Queta?

I'm guessing that Stevens has a player or two in mind that people here have never heard of, and one of them will be an athletic 3 and d wing.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#1856 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:55 pm

Baylor Scheierman would be a nice addition. Pritchard, Scheierman, Hauser, Tillman and Horford would be a tough 2nd unit.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#1857 » by keevsnick1 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:02 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Kel'el Ware regressed last year, starting with his free throw shooting, which was barely 60%. Why draft someone like that when you already have Queta?

I'm guessing that Stevens has a player or two in mind that people here have never heard of, and one of them will be an athletic 3 and d wing.


Players who are true 7 footers with 7'5 wingspans, good finishers at the rim with the potential to shoot and protect the rim are EXTREMELY hard to find. He has a pretty soft touch of the three, I think he can develop that three into something that has to be guarded.

The knock on him is he doesn't always play with the highest motor, he can be disengaged on both sides of the ball. But I think thats something a team like the Celtics can work on.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#1858 » by Memokerobi » Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:16 pm

Dogen wrote:
keevsnick1 wrote:Bleacher Report's latest Mock Draft has the C's trading #30, #54 and the 2026 Best of 4 second round pick to NYK for #24 and taking Kel'el Ware. That's the kind of trade I would like to see, i think getting up to on of those Knicks picks with #30, #54 and a future second is in line with past trade values for that sort of move up.

SI has the C's taking Yves Missi at #30.

Sam Vecenie of the Athletic just rel;eased his draft guide. He has DaRon Holmes, Tyler Smith and Kel'el Ware listed at 24,25,26 on his big board with Kyle Filipowski at 16. All those guys are in a tier of 16-28 as "rotation players and upside swings."


I don't get it for the Knicks, seems like they already got too many guys, and with this they trade down but still have the guaranteed contract of end of first round. But it's the Knicks so who knows?

Also would be a change of form for Brad to trade up. I'm not against it if there is a player available that can come in and contribute. Maybe we're due for adding someone who's not two years away.


Same article has the Pelicans trading Ingram to the Rockets in a 3 way trade with the Hornets and getting the 6th overall pick and then trading the 6th overall pick for Mitchell Robinson and #24 and then trading #24 to the Celtics. Its Bleacher Report, its wack
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27) 

Post#1859 » by 165bows » Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:28 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Kel'el Ware regressed last year, starting with his free throw shooting, which was barely 60%. Why draft someone like that when you already have Queta?

I'm guessing that Stevens has a player or two in mind that people here have never heard of, and one of them will be an athletic 3 and d wing.

Yeah he’s got a Mo Bamba vibe imo.
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Post#1860 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:50 pm

keevsnick1 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Kel'el Ware regressed last year, starting with his free throw shooting, which was barely 60%. Why draft someone like that when you already have Queta?

I'm guessing that Stevens has a player or two in mind that people here have never heard of, and one of them will be an athletic 3 and d wing.


Players who are true 7 footers with 7'5 wingspans, good finishers at the rim with the potential to shoot and protect the rim are EXTREMELY hard to find. He has a pretty soft touch of the three, I think he can develop that three into something that has to be guarded.


Queta measured 6'11.25” barefoot, 7'0.5” in shoes 9'4.5” standing reach, 248.4 lbs, and 7'4.0” wingspan at the 2021 NBA Draft Combine.

And oh, by the way, you don't have to give up a thing to get him and he's proven that he can play in the NBA.
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