Does Bridges to Houston put the Rockets in contention?

[vincecarter4pres]

No, he doesn’t. And he isn’t worth anywhere near that much.

I’ll be so glad when Bridges gets traded to another team, so that all of the delusional trade proposals will finally stop.

Even though I prefer the Nets find a way to rebuild, while trading Bridges, at this point I’ll be so glad when the Nets pulls off a semi-surprise trade for someone like Trae and a PG S&T, or someone like Jerami Grant while keeping 2 of the 5 Phoenix and Dallas picks and windup a strong regular season team for years and ruin those Nets picks the Rockets hold before they’re able to pawn them off on an unsuspecting team for anyone of worth.

A handful of Rockets fans on here and a lot of them on Twitter have made me a very spiteful Nets fan lol, and at this point hoping Tsai feels the same, which honestly feels like a very legitimate possibility.

[jredsaz]

Nope

[Xman]

Mikal, as everyone has mentioned, is a great 3&D but non-main guy. For Houston to really use him now, they need a star. Thus, the Trae and Mikal idea.
Mikal/Brooks/Jabari between Sengun and a scoring pg would be scary (especially with Eason as the main backup).

Not seeing paying a big price for Mikal otherwise. And, big includes that 2025 swap. Next year, OKC will still be good meaning they swap their pick with HOU so the pick becomes a bottom five first. BKN is probably in the lottery, so that swap is good and could be great.

Without a "star" move (a player like Trae, Mitchell, etc. - Mikal is not that level), there is not much incentive to get Mikal. Instead, Rox have to wait and see who develops.
Does JalenGreen replicate March; Does Jabari look like pre-injury 2023; Is Eason's defense so good they cannot leave him out of starting lineup; Can Amen get his shot right; Is Whitmore the new Melo; Can Sengun take it up another notch; Is #3 something?
- that is a lot of questions on talent. Hard to trade those guys with what they have shown . . . . unless it is a big move (ie star).

[Whole Truth]

Bridges is a role player.

Green or #3 or 27 Nets picks.

Any one.

You don't get to keep the pick swap next year if you want Bridges.

Nets have no reason the help you by tanking for nothing in return.

I think this is a poor way of looking at the 2025 pick considering the Nets just gave up the #3 pick in this draft and have no abundantly clear path to improvement. The base case is they are swapping a lottery pick for a late first; consider that a sunk cost.

This is the reason why I suggested BI & the NO's/Lakers pick for Bridges. BI carried NO's to a PO birth the year Zion missed. He's more of a #1/2 option than Bridges to carry an offense. For the contractual risk, Nets get the Lakers pick which has some lotto projection that gives them an avenue to build on their main tradeable asset, which declined in value since last year.

Bridges will be on the wrong side of 30 when Nets can build a viable team with him. Holding on to long could repeat Washington with Beal.

I'd like to get #3, Whitmore out of Houston if they're interested in Bridges.

[JoseRizal]

I think the 2025 FRP is what's holding back any trade for Bridges. I understand how it's valued by Houston since 2025 is dubbed as a generational draft.

However, the value of the Nets future picks and pick swaps begins and ends with Brooklyn being bad (like what happened this year).

Once Nets ownership & FO decides to go for an all-in trade for an All-Star (assuming Mitchell or Trae), then the value of the future picks owned by Houston plummets by virtue of the East being very weak, and more teams deciding to rebuild like the Bulls.

[jbk1234]

I think the 2025 FRP is what's holding back any trade for Bridges. I understand how it's valued by Houston since 2025 is dubbed as a generational draft.

However, the value of the Nets future picks and pick swaps begins and ends with Brooklyn being bad (like what happened this year).

Once Nets ownership & FO decides to go for an all-in trade for an All-Star (assuming Mitchell or Trae), then the value of the future picks owned by Houston plummets by virtue of the East being very weak, and more teams deciding to rebuild like the Bulls.

The East isn't very weak, but it looks like the Bulls and Heat could fall out of the top-10 this year which certainly opens the door for a team like Nets to walk through.

[TheNetsFan]

I think the 2025 FRP is what's holding back any trade for Bridges. I understand how it's valued by Houston since 2025 is dubbed as a generational draft.

However, the value of the Nets future picks and pick swaps begins and ends with Brooklyn being bad (like what happened this year).

Once Nets ownership & FO decides to go for an all-in trade for an All-Star (assuming Mitchell or Trae), then the value of the future picks owned by Houston plummets by virtue of the East being very weak, and more teams deciding to rebuild like the Bulls.

The East isn't very weak, but it looks like the Bulls and Heat could fall out of the top-10 this year which certainly opens the door for a team like Nets to walk through.

There has also has been chatter that the Hawks may move at least one of Young/Murray & may choose to start a rebuild. 36-46 & 39-43 made the play-in this season in the East. It could be worse next year. Despite a checked out PG (Dinwiddie due to lack of extension), horrific coaching & a lot of injuries, the Nets still won 32 games. Just running it back with better coaching & competent PG play should keep them in the play-in running. The Nets aren't going to pass a playoff opportunity, even if they're the likely victim of a 1st round sweep, and/or hamper their ability to have max space in 2025 unless the offer is too good to pass up. That offer would also need a pretty quick payoff. That means the Nets if they were to trade Bridges to Houston, the Nets likely ask for whatever pick the Rockets wind up with in '25 as a starting point. To think the Nets would entertain a pick-centric package from Houston without including '25 is completely unrealistic.

[Xman]

[quote="TheNetsFan"][quote="jbk1234"][quote="JoseRizal"]I think the 2025 FRP is what's holding back any trade for Bridges. I understand how it's valued by Houston since 2025 is dubbed as a generational draft.

However, the value of the Nets future picks and pick swaps begins and ends with Brooklyn being bad (like what happened this year).

Once Nets ownership & FO decides to go for an all-in trade for an All-Star (assuming Mitchell or Trae), then the value of the future picks owned by Houston plummets by virtue of the East being very weak, and more teams deciding to rebuild like the Bulls.[/quote]

The East isn't very weak, but it looks like the Bulls and Heat could fall out of the top-10 this year which certainly opens the door for a team like Nets to walk through.[/quote]
There has also has been chatter that the Hawks may move at least one of Young/Murray & may choose to start a rebuild. 36-46 & 39-43 made the play-in this season in the East. It could be worse next year. Despite a checked out PG (Dinwiddie due to lack of extension), horrific coaching & a lot of injuries, the Nets still won 32 games. Just running it back with better coaching & competent PG play should keep them in the play-in running. The Nets aren't going to pass a playoff opportunity, even if they're the likely victim of a 1st round sweep, and/or hamper their ability to have max space in 2025 unless the offer is too good to pass up. That offer would also need a pretty quick payoff. That means the Nets if they were to trade Bridges to Houston, the Nets likely ask for whatever pick the Rockets wind up with in '25 as a starting point. To think the Nets would entertain a pick-centric package from Houston without including '25 is completely unrealistic.[/quote]

For the most part, I agree. However, Houston could see some value in BKN being bad and making the swap better. HOU will get stuck with the OKC pick due to swap rights, so bottom five pick probably. If BKN leans into the rebuild, then that pick is in the lottery. All it takes is for them to also deal CamJ. Claxton, mediocre vets and young prospects are not going far. Houston picked Amen last year - he looks great all around except for shooting - which might get there. Giving him up is risky but if BKN had to play him, they are probably in the lottery due to his experience. So . . . .
ORL gets Vleet, CamJ for Black, Jett, cap space. {ColeA or JIsaac could go if needed for cap balancing}
- ORL adds two veteran starters. Suggs/Vleet/CamJ/Wagner/Banchero/WCJ is a solid top 6.
BKN gets Amen, ABlack, 2026 first back, 2027 swap voided, and $30 mil TE.
- BKN gets its backcourt of the future and its picks back, except the 2025 swap. Amen/Black/Claxton and maybe CamT/Noah are a good base to rebuild with.
HOU gets Mikal, Jett and around $20 mil TE for #3, Amen, Vleet, 2026 BKN first and 2027 swap.
- HOU gives up a promising piece in Amen which hurts and #3 is a good pick. The 2026 pick and 2027 swap are unknowns. But, the 2025 swap becomes MORE valuable since BKN is essentially forced to play really young guys (Amen and Black) which would be their future.

Anyway, that is the main way I see BKN maximizing trading Mikal (and CamJ) and not getting that 2025 swap back. But, if I were BKN and I could get Amen/Black and all future picks back, then I might have to do it even though it means a bad year where another team could get a great pick.

[Whole Truth]

Houston Fans, any interest in Miles Bridges ?