Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 6.0

[jonbob17]

I would stay away from Russell too.

Are any of the names getting kicked around better than Russell?

18pts 6 assists with 3 made threes a game at 42%. Kind of ticks the boxes. Who in this range can beat that, and sure he has his flaws, all the guys in that range do, if they didn’t, 1 they wouldn’t be available and 2 they would probably be maxxed.

have to account for, he will likely be looking for $25mil/yr as he would be turning down $18mil on his final year with LA.

you okay paying that much to him?

It’s less than guys like Herro and Simons. 4/100 would make me cringe, but I’d still do it if he was the only decent FA in play, it’s probably fine though. Is anyone else giving him 4/85 though?
We might be bidding against ourselves here.

[Skybox]

me watching list of names people throw here.

Just incredible amount of C & D level players, part time starters, very specific & limited role players.

If your masterplan with $35M to spend in free agency is Melton, might as well tell fans to go f*** themselfs .


Magic had 2023-24 season with almost no injuries, matter of fact only big injury helped us ( Fultz) and when Carter was out we played very well with Goga. That gave us 47 wins and first round exit.

If your big addition is one of Sexton/Melton/ KCP or any other player of that caliber, without starting PG in sight, and you have just about average year in terms of injuries, you probably won't even win 47 games again and you will be first round exit again.

Magic need starting level PG. We are not one crappy mid level exception 3& D guy away from being great team. It's just East, and how average eveybody but Celtics are that gives you perception of false quality. I mean, Pacers ended up in ECF , that's how tough it is.

Who are the target(s) that you would be looking at...via trade or FA?

[Skybox]

Are any of the names getting kicked around better than Russell?

18pts 6 assists with 3 made threes a game at 42%. Kind of ticks the boxes. Who in this range can beat that, and sure he has his flaws, all the guys in that range do, if they didn’t, 1 they wouldn’t be available and 2 they would probably be maxxed.

have to account for, he will likely be looking for $25mil/yr as he would be turning down $18mil on his final year with LA.

you okay paying that much to him?

It’s less than guys like Herro and Simons. 4/100 would make me cringe, but I’d still do it if he was the only decent FA in play. Is anyone else giving him 4/85 though?
We might be bidding against ourselves here.

Herro and Simons don't have Russell's stigma as a jerk and a loser.

[OrlChamps2030]

All signals are confirming that the Magic front office is firmly in the player development camp still.

Seems like they are looking to add the right garnish to this terrific Lotto Talent dish. Let the lotto talent take us where they can.

Frankly, this is the right approach if you are focused on future value, which we should be I might add. Our core is all 22 years and younger and there just isn't enough space to add another core piece that we haven't already drafted.

..because Monk resigned with the Kings?

Brother, free agency hasn’t even began yet

[Rainwater]

me watching list of names people throw here.

Just incredible amount of C & D level players, part time starters, very specific & limited role players.

If your masterplan with $35M to spend in free agency is Melton, might as well tell fans to go f*** themselfs .


Magic had 2023-24 season with almost no injuries, matter of fact only big injury helped us ( Fultz) and when Carter was out we played very well with Goga. That gave us 47 wins and first round exit.

If your big addition is one of Sexton/Melton/ KCP or any other player of that caliber, without starting PG in sight, and you have just about average year in terms of injuries, you probably won't even win 47 games again and you will be first round exit again.

Magic need starting level PG. We are not one crappy mid level exception 3& D guy away from being great team. It's just East, and how average eveybody but Celtics are that gives you perception of false quality. I mean, Pacers ended up in ECF , that's how tough it is.

Yeah, they mostly do suck lol

[Audi]

have to account for, he will likely be looking for $25mil/yr as he would be turning down $18mil on his final year with LA.

you okay paying that much to him?

It’s less than guys like Herro and Simons. 4/100 would make me cringe, but I’d still do it if he was the only decent FA in play. Is anyone else giving him 4/85 though?
We might be bidding against ourselves here.

Herro and Simons don't have Russell's stigma as a jerk and a loser.

Biggest issue with Russell for me is that he has had plenty of opportunities playing alongside some great players on some fairly good teams...and ended up getting shipped out...every single time. That's a red flag the other two don't have waving.

[eyriq]

All signals are confirming that the Magic front office is firmly in the player development camp still.

Seems like they are looking to add the right garnish to this terrific Lotto Talent dish. Let the lotto talent take us where they can.

Frankly, this is the right approach if you are focused on future value, which we should be I might add. Our core is all 22 years and younger and there just isn't enough space to add another core piece that we haven't already drafted.

..because Monk resigned with the Kings?

Brother, free agency hasn’t even began yet

Rumors are signals too haha

[Rainwater]

It’s less than guys like Herro and Simons. 4/100 would make me cringe, but I’d still do it if he was the only decent FA in play. Is anyone else giving him 4/85 though?
We might be bidding against ourselves here.

Herro and Simons don't have Russell's stigma as a jerk and a loser.

Biggest issue with Russell for me is that he has had plenty of opportunities playing alongside some great players on some fairly good teams...and ended up getting shipped out...every single time. That's a red flag the other two don't have waving.

Truth

[eyriq]

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[Knightro]

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That $32.8M cap space includes the Magic picking up all four of their team options - Isaac (17.8M), Ingles (11M), Moritz (8M) and Houstan (2M).

So if they were to decline Ingles and Moritz, even if they have every intention of resigning them both, it would add $19M to the $32.8M which would bump it up to $51.8M.

I expect them to decline Ingles and Mortiz (with Moe a certainty to return on the room exception and Ingles closer to 50/50 to return on a deal closer to the veteran minimum) unless they find out in advance that they've viciously struck out on every possible free agency option and don't need the flexibility.

[cedric76]

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That $32.8M cap space includes the Magic picking up all four of their team options - Isaac (17.8M), Ingles (11M), Moritz (8M) and Houstan (2M).

So if they were to decline Ingles and Moritz, even if they have every intention of resigning them both, it would add $19M to the $32.8M which would bump it up to $51.8M.

I expect them to decline Ingles and Mortiz (with Moe a certainty to return on the room exception and Ingles closer to 50/50 to return on a deal closer to the veteran minimum) unless they find out in advance that they've viciously struck out on every possible free agency option and don't need the flexibility.

Exactly

[Cammo101]

I'm so not here for these 2 year role player contracts and staying the course. That is not how teams get better. We need to be aggressive this offseason. Everything has lined up perfectly for us to make a splash play, we have an overachieving team with two stars and a boatload of cap space. This is not the time to be risk averse. Go after Ingram, go after Simons, go after George.

Show your players and your fan base you are serious about winning.

[Rainwater]

If George opts in I don’t think he is even looking at Orlando as an option because he could easily sign straight up.

[jezzerinho]

me watching list of names people throw here.

Just incredible amount of C & D level players, part time starters, very specific & limited role players.

If your masterplan with $35M to spend in free agency is Melton, might as well tell fans to go f*** themselfs .


Magic had 2023-24 season with almost no injuries, matter of fact only big injury helped us ( Fultz) and when Carter was out we played very well with Goga. That gave us 47 wins and first round exit.

If your big addition is one of Sexton/Melton/ KCP or any other player of that caliber, without starting PG in sight, and you have just about average year in terms of injuries, you probably won't even win 47 games again and you will be first round exit again.

Magic need starting level PG. We are not one crappy mid level exception 3& D guy away from being great team. It's just East, and how average eveybody but Celtics are that gives you perception of false quality. I mean, Pacers ended up in ECF , that's how tough it is.

Who are the target(s) that you would be looking at...via trade or FA?

Hahaha.

Thats the Solutions Department. Pepe works in the Problems División.

[cedric76]

me watching list of names people throw here.

Just incredible amount of C & D level players, part time starters, very specific & limited role players.

If your masterplan with $35M to spend in free agency is Melton, might as well tell fans to go f*** themselfs .


Magic had 2023-24 season with almost no injuries, matter of fact only big injury helped us ( Fultz) and when Carter was out we played very well with Goga. That gave us 47 wins and first round exit.

If your big addition is one of Sexton/Melton/ KCP or any other player of that caliber, without starting PG in sight, and you have just about average year in terms of injuries, you probably won't even win 47 games again and you will be first round exit again.

Magic need starting level PG. We are not one crappy mid level exception 3& D guy away from being great team. It's just East, and how average eveybody but Celtics are that gives you perception of false quality. I mean, Pacers ended up in ECF , that's how tough it is.

Who are the target(s) that you would be looking at...via trade or FA?

Hahaha.

Thats the Solutions Department. Pepe works in the Problems División.

Lol

[DiplomaticMagic]

None of these free agency targets are perfect but Monk was the one where I was like yeah he makes a ton of sense. So him not being available really sucks.

I still think upgrading at center would be the best thing we can do in free agency. And than trade for some guard help. Hartenstein is my biggest target right now.

[eyriq]

I'm so not here for these 2 year role player contracts and staying the course. That is not how teams get better. We need to be aggressive this offseason. Everything has lined up perfectly for us to make a splash play, we have an overachieving team with two stars and a boatload of cap space. This is not the time to be risk averse. Go after Ingram, go after Simons, go after George.

Show your players and your fan base you are serious about winning.

What about the internal development of lottery picks?

[Residual-Heat]

"One name they did pursue last season at the trade deadline that I think teams around the league expect to come up again in trade conversations over the next week or so, and makes sense for the Lakers, is Dejounte Murray with the Hawks," said Shams Charania on Friday's episode of the Pat McAfee Show. "The Lakers have maintained a level of interest in Dejounte Murray over the last several months."


The LAkers dont have ****. I hope the FO takes the risk if it doesnt cost too much. 3 1sts for Murray. Dont need to make any other big moves.

[OnlyFranz22]

I still say if there is any way to get Mitchell we have to explore it.

The guy is still only 27

[Knightro]

I'm so not here for these 2 year role player contracts and staying the course. That is not how teams get better. We need to be aggressive this offseason. Everything has lined up perfectly for us to make a splash play, we have an overachieving team with two stars and a boatload of cap space. This is not the time to be risk averse. Go after Ingram, go after Simons, go after George.

Show your players and your fan base you are serious about winning.

You are correct, sir.