The Official 2024 Offseason Thread

[Crives]

I kinda hope we bring back dario

[Saberestar]

Further along the first round, NBA personnel also consider Phoenix a strong candidate to trade down from the No. 22 pick.

The Suns are famously low on additional draft capital and future assets after splurging to acquire Kevin Durant and Bradley Beal. If Phoenix can find avenues to move down in the first round, while picking up additional second-round picks, the Suns could wisely find more future ammo to make trades down the line, while also adding several rookie salaries onto a very expensive roster, which would prove quite prudent considering Phoenix’s lofty payroll and incoming luxury tax bill.

https://sports.yahoo.com/with-bulls-roster-shakeup-underway-is-zach-lavine-the-next-piece-on-the-move-150136313.html

[Ghost of Kleine]

If Gordon is out gimme KJ Martin and Max Christie. Two young guys who are hungry to prove themselves in the NBA.

Two great names for sure man! Good eye on this. KJ Martin would be very solid defensively and athletically for us. And although not the elite defender that Ryan Dunn is, he's further along than Dunn in terms of his overall shooting abilities. And Max Christie is another great name too! He's a very skilled shooter with solid athleticism, and a good handle to break down defenses. I didn't mention him on my list because I have him as a mid (38-46 range) prospect who wouldn't fall to us as an undrafted range consideration (the names on my list), and I'm not sure if we'd get a 2nd in his range to draft him. But he'd be very solid for us if we did somehow.

[Biff]

Seems a bit odd that Bronny is only working out for us and the Lakers. Would Lebron really sign for the vet min if we drafted Bronny? I don't see the Lakers making a trade with us if Lebron opts in.

[Ghost of Kleine]

I kinda hope we bring back dario

I'm mostly open to Saric or Muscala as a backup 4/5 option, but am leaning a bit more toward Muscala for better overall size, mobility, there point shooting. Of course, depending upon salary expectations too IF both were willing to accept the vet min or if one would and the other wouldn't being the determining factor here.

[BobbieL]

Seems a bit odd that Bronny is only working out for us and the Lakers. Would Lebron really sign for the vet min if we drafted Bronny? I don't see the Lakers making a trade with us if Lebron opts in.

I think Gerald Bourquet squashed any chances of trading for LeBron based on his salary and Beals salary. James is a million too much or something

[Saberestar]

Seems a bit odd that Bronny is only working out for us and the Lakers. Would Lebron really sign for the vet min if we drafted Bronny? I don't see the Lakers making a trade with us if Lebron opts in.

Rich Paul himself said that LeBron will not sign for the vet min for the Suns.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Seems a bit odd that Bronny is only working out for us and the Lakers. Would Lebron really sign for the vet min if we drafted Bronny? I don't see the Lakers making a trade with us if Lebron opts in.

NO!
Multiple reports have recently come out from Rich Paul confirming that James' free agency decision would in no way be affected by where bronny is drafted, and there's also no way that James is coming to Phoenix or would sign on a vet minimum deal. And as a 2nd apron team, we can't do a sign n trade, and Lebrons' salary would be slightly more than Beals too, so we couldn't really trade for him either because any trade has to be a "dollar for dollar" matching outcome (not a dollar more) otherwise it's forbidden to us. And this again is on top of our inability to stack or aggregate salaries. So aside from James deciding to just come play for us and accept the vet minimum, there's really no pathway to pursue him. And we'd be absolutely wasting our time pursuing him, or prioritizing bronny at this point.

[Saberestar]

Hartenstein, at this moment, is now generally expected to return to New York, as the Knicks have contacted opposing teams about moving Mitchell Robinson, sources said. There appears to be a wide range of starting-caliber big men available for trade.

League personnel told Yahoo Sports the Bucks are open to reshaping their roster, and they are gauging the trade value for Brook Lopez. Houston, sources said, cautioned Lopez that re-signing with Milwaukee could very well lead to him eventually being traded when the Rockets pursued Lopez in free agency a year ago.

Atlanta, sources said, continues to pursue deals for veteran center Clint Capela, who’s entering the final year of a contract that still owes the 30-year-old rim protector $22 million.

Rival teams believe Utah is willing to engage in trade talks that would part ways with Jazz second-year center Walker Kessler. And the Detroit Pistons are evaluating the market for Isaiah Stewart, according to league sources.

https://sports.yahoo.com/with-bulls-roster-shakeup-underway-is-zach-lavine-the-next-piece-on-the-move-150136313.html

Some starting Cs out there in the market.

I would definitely try to get Mitchell Robinson, not sure about his price. Nurkic for him would be OK but I seriously doubt that Thibs would want Nurkic.

Isaiah Stewart...IDK, probably too small to play consistently at 5. And I don't like his low basketball IQ.

Kessler's value probably too high for us. And we can't trade for Brook Lopez or Capela.

[dremill24]

If Gordon is out gimme KJ Martin and Max Christie. Two young guys who are hungry to prove themselves in the NBA.

Two great names for sure man! Good eye on this. KJ Martin would be very solid defensively and athletically for us. And although not the elite defender that Ryan Dunn is, he's further along than Dunn in terms of his overall shooting abilities. And Max Christie is another great name too! He's a very skilled shooter with solid athleticism, and a good handle to break down defenses. I didn't mention him on my list because I have him as a mid (38-46 range) prospect who wouldn't fall to us as an undrafted range consideration (the names on my list), and I'm not sure if we'd get a 2nd in his range to draft him. But he'd be very solid for us if we did somehow.

Bro Max Christie is a 2yr NBA veteran and pending free agent...

[Ghost of Kleine]

If Gordon is out gimme KJ Martin and Max Christie. Two young guys who are hungry to prove themselves in the NBA.

Two great names for sure man! Good eye on this. KJ Martin would be very solid defensively and athletically for us. And although not the elite defender that Ryan Dunn is, he's further along than Dunn in terms of his overall shooting abilities. And Max Christie is another great name too! He's a very skilled shooter with solid athleticism, and a good handle to break down defenses. I didn't mention him on my list because I have him as a mid (38-46 range) prospect who wouldn't fall to us as an undrafted range consideration (the names on my list), and I'm not sure if we'd get a 2nd in his range to draft him. But he'd be very solid for us if we did somehow.

Bro Max Christie is a 2yr NBA veteran and pending free agent...

Sorry! my bad man. I was thinking of this kid in the draft who is a 2nd round pick:

https://www.tankathon.com/players/cam-christie

I honestly forgot about Max Christie for the Lakers, and thought he was mentioning Cam Christie as a response to the names from the late 2nd to undrafted ranges that I initially mentioned. Absolutely, Max Christie is v l Ryan solid. But I'm not to sure that the lakers won't look to bring him back if possible.

https://www.si.com/nba/lakers/news/lakers-reportedly-want-to-bring-back-key-bench-player-for-next-season-rks97#:~:text=The%20Los%20Angeles%20Lakers%20are,round%20draft%20pick%20Max%20Christie.

"So, from my understanding, the Lakers are going to try to retain him. Now as for what that deal would look like, based on the Lakers' track record, it would probably be a three-year deal — maybe four, given his youth — but at least three. I would probably lean three and then something in like the $15 (million) to $20 million range. So, something like five (million) to seven million annually."

[Fo-Real]

I kinda hope we bring back dario

...... I'm not on that train.

[Fo-Real]

Seems a bit odd that Bronny is only working out for us and the Lakers. Would Lebron really sign for the vet min if we drafted Bronny? I don't see the Lakers making a trade with us if Lebron opts in.

No bro!

[Ghost of Kleine]

https://arizonasports.com/story/3548786/2024-nba-draft-who-worked-out-phoenix-suns/

Who has worked out so far for the Phoenix Suns ahead of the 2024 NBA Draft?
- 26. Tyler Kolek, Marquette.
- 28. Jaylon Tyson, Cal wing.
- 41. Ajay Mitchell, UC Santa Barbara PG.
- 50. Keshad Johnson, Arizona forward.
- 56. Trentyn Flowers, Adelaide 36ers wing
- 75. Anton Watson, Gonzaga forward.
- 92. Jaylin Williams, Auburn forward.
- 96. Jaedon LeDee, San Diego State forward.
- Unranked. Tristan Enaruna, Cleveland State forward.
- UR. RaeQuan Battle, West Virginia guard.
- UR. Mark Armstrong, Villanova guard.
- UR. Fardaws Aimaq, Cal forward.
- UR. Malik Hall, Michigan State forward.
- UR Tyrese Samuel, Florida big.

So this is the most recent updated draft workout list for the Suns. Aside of course from the secret workout names that the suns aren't going to share with anyone.

[Fo-Real]

Not that I'm into reclamation projects or think he would ever be available for vet min if cut, but is there a chance in hell that Detroit even thinks about resigning Wiseman?

[bigfoot]

If Gordon's really outta here! Give me any of Cam Spencer, Blake hinson, Mantas Rubstavicius, or Moses Wood ( 6'8 jumbo wing 3 point assassin).

Or in free agency on a vet minimum, any of Joe Harris, Daniel House, Vincent Valerio Bodon, Landers Nolley, or even Joe Weiskamp. All very good to great shooters!

Honeslty, I think we should have a good hard look at German prospect Armin Meiwes. There's some dietary issues surrounding him, but nothing too concerning. Peruvian prospect Inca Orchid is another one I'm keeping a close eye on.

Likely can be had for the vet min. Meiwes could definitely solve the Bradley Beal issue. I hear Orchid has hip and elbow problems but may be worth the risk.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Not that I'm into reclamation projects or think he would ever be available for vet min if cut, but is there a chance in hell that Detroit even thinks about resigning Wiseman?

Probably not!
I only say this because they're apparently really hellbent on pivoting to more vets and trying to accelerate their cores' competitive trajectory this next season. But Then again, in the NBA, anything and everything is a possibility.

But I personally like the idea of taking a swing on Wiseman as a 3rd string center option/ G league upside development project because of his size, athleticism, length, shotblocking ability and decent 3 point and face up shooting mechanics that are present as a foundational base to build off of possibly. and at such a low cost ( if he'd come on the minimum) the risks would be pretty small in comparison to potential rewards if we could develop his value along the lines of what Bol did with us somewhat?

[Saberestar]

https://arizonasports.com/story/3548786/2024-nba-draft-who-worked-out-phoenix-suns/

Who has worked out so far for the Phoenix Suns ahead of the 2024 NBA Draft?
- 26. Tyler Kolek, Marquette.
- 28. Jaylon Tyson, Cal wing.
- 41. Ajay Mitchell, UC Santa Barbara PG.
- 50. Keshad Johnson, Arizona forward.
- 56. Trentyn Flowers, Adelaide 36ers wing
- 75. Anton Watson, Gonzaga forward.
- 92. Jaylin Williams, Auburn forward.
- 96. Jaedon LeDee, San Diego State forward.
- Unranked. Tristan Enaruna, Cleveland State forward.
- UR. RaeQuan Battle, West Virginia guard.
- UR. Mark Armstrong, Villanova guard.
- UR. Fardaws Aimaq, Cal forward.
- UR. Malik Hall, Michigan State forward.
- UR Tyrese Samuel, Florida big.

So this is the most recent updated draft workout list for the Suns. Aside of course from the secret workout names that the suns aren't going to share with anyone.

There are some days available for workouts yet but it's weird that no one in the Top #25 have visited Phoenix.

We have probably a deal in place to trade down IF some players that we really like aren't available at #22 on draft night.

#22 for #29 and #32 with the Jazz
#22 for #27 and #37 with the Wolves.

That way we could draft Bronny James with the 2nd and whoever is available from Tyson, Kolek, Missi and some other prospects that we like in that range.

[dremill24]

Hartenstein, at this moment, is now generally expected to return to New York, as the Knicks have contacted opposing teams about moving Mitchell Robinson, sources said. There appears to be a wide range of starting-caliber big men available for trade.

League personnel told Yahoo Sports the Bucks are open to reshaping their roster, and they are gauging the trade value for Brook Lopez. Houston, sources said, cautioned Lopez that re-signing with Milwaukee could very well lead to him eventually being traded when the Rockets pursued Lopez in free agency a year ago.

Atlanta, sources said, continues to pursue deals for veteran center Clint Capela, who’s entering the final year of a contract that still owes the 30-year-old rim protector $22 million.

Rival teams believe Utah is willing to engage in trade talks that would part ways with Jazz second-year center Walker Kessler. And the Detroit Pistons are evaluating the market for Isaiah Stewart, according to league sources.

https://sports.yahoo.com/with-bulls-roster-shakeup-underway-is-zach-lavine-the-next-piece-on-the-move-150136313.html

Some starting Cs out there in the market.

I would definitely try to get Mitchell Robinson, not sure about his price. Nurkic for him would be OK but I seriously doubt that Thibs would want Nurkic.

Isaiah Stewart...IDK, probably too small to play consistently at 5. And I don't like his low basketball IQ.

Kessler's value probably too high for us. And we can't trade for Brook Lopez or Capela.

Danny Ainge showed last year that he sees some value in distant picks from old teams when he moved Conley/Vanderbilt for a Lakers 1st. I dunno how highly he values Kessler but if theres any team (based on history at least) that might value a Phoenix '31 pick more than most, it could be Utah. Maybe thats still not enough, and Im not sure if I'd to it as Phoenix even if it was, but just a thought.

[Qwigglez]

Lots of big men are indeed on the market.

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I think the Wolves, Mavs, Celtics have shown that a quality rotation of big men were key in making a deep playoff run.