JayTWill wrote:Skybox wrote:JayTWill wrote:
It's easy to say that but take out the number 5 and put the names of the actual players that may be available at this slot and tell me that you wouldn't trade any of them for this package. Tell me the foundational pieces that you see at this slot when added to this current Detroit team.
Normally at #5 I would be hoping to find a future all star player but in this draft even finding a possible long term starter would be a great success imo. Look at the names being listed in this thread as good picks at #5.
Reed Sheppard, a small scoring guard, in a league where size matters. You are Orlando fan. You know it hasn't been easy to find the right guard for your team.
Cody Williams, a skinny wing, that didn't show much at the college level and is given more attention because his brother has been successful in the NBA.
Stephon Castle, a guard that is solid in some areas but no elite skill with a shaky jump shot. Once again, you are an Orlando fan. You know the disadvantage of some of those traits. If I offered all this for Anthony Black would you say no?
NONE of the pieces offered are remotely interesting to me vs the potential of #5 or AB
Ok, last questions then I will move on... As an Orlando fan that has said your team lacks shooting around Paolo and Franz and has offered Cole Anthony for Robinson in one my last threads since I think you have mentioned wanting a low usage rim protector would you trade away the type of players that you say you want in McBride, a 41% high volume 3 and D guard, Robinson, a low usage defensive big along with two late picks in this draft and a future first that I expect to convey in the 10-16 range down the road to add the potential of a solid young player like Black to the Magic? If so, why?
It's not unreasonable if you would since I am offering the same package for a similar level of player in Castle but I feel like the Knicks' needs are a little different. They are a better shooting team and hopefully they are bringing back iHart as there rim protecting big while McBride is not an ideal fit because of his size next to Brunson our star player and our other small Nova guys. They have plenty of random 1st round picks to offer up in trades. The Knicks also need a better defensive guard with size and hopefully some ball handling next to Brunson where your team already has Suggs as a defensive guard with some ability as an offensive initiator.
What is the role that you eventually imagine Black playing for this team?
Sorry to side-track the thread, but :
-McBride is JAG, hard to be a serious "3&D" guy at 6'1 and, as you said, too small next to Brunson. His 3pt % jumped, but I don't consider his attempts to be high-volume and, given his previous years' way below avg %...maybe a fluke, maybe not
-Robinson would be a nice security blanket, but his injury history certainly limits him, he's another just avg. big man without very limited offensive ability. I like him as a backup/different look from Wendell Carter, but don't give him much real value.
-two late firsts in what's considered a weak draft are of interest to me - but limited
-Call it the "magic of the unknown...but we know there will be great players coming out and at #5 in a relatively flat, confusing draft, you've got a really good chance to pick a long-term winner on a rookie deal. Anthony Black is really nothing but intrigue and measurables right now...but I take his mysterious upside over the known limits of McBride & Robinson and later picks any day. Personally, I think Castle (with similarities to AB) might be the star of this draft, but there are quite a few that offer big possibilities. I like Black, if not as a PG, to, at minimum, be a Joe Ingles-type of multi-position "connector" who can basically do just about everything- as needed, hit open 3's, make the right pass, bring up the ball and create offense...but he's also 6'7, young, and looks to be an elite defender. His future may be unclear but it's likely very bright.
